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Date: 01 Nov 2006 00:26:31
From: Marshall
Subject: 5 pix of the new Silvia
At the Rancilio.it website:
http://rancilio.it/rancilio/prod_model.jsp?id_model=49&id_language=3&id_category=26

There is a new, tapered group that looks larger. The drip tray cover
is a more attractive design. Anyone know any more details?

shall




 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:05:16
From: daveb
Subject: maintenance cautions:
Another reason to avoid NUDE espresso maintenance.

daveb


Craig Andrews wrote:

> Don't laugh, I had that happen to me & I was standing in front of the
> machine in my underpants cleaning the grouphead when I inadvertently
> turned on the brew switch! Thank God it didn't hit me you know where,
> but to the right on my upper right thigh.. {;-o
> Craig.



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 14:25:26
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: maintenance cautions:

"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1162667116.504363.17520@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Another reason to avoid NUDE espresso maintenance.
>
> daveb
>
>
> Craig Andrews wrote:
>
>> Don't laugh, I had that happen to me & I was standing in front of the
>> machine in my underpants cleaning the grouphead when I inadvertently
>> turned on the brew switch! Thank God it didn't hit me you know where,
>> but to the right on my upper right thigh.. {;-o
>> Craig.
>

ROTFLMAO!!!!! HaHaaa!! {:-D
Cheers!
Craig.



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 09:04:55
From:
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

RBeech wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:27:51 -0800, <terryz@espressoparts.com> wrote:
>
> > Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
> >
> > http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
> >
>
>
> Terry -
>
> will you have the new adjustable OPV available for sale soon?
>
> I think the new grouphead styling looks great. I really don't like the
> drip tray cover though. :( It doesn't look any more functional than my old
> one, and it doesn't seem to fit with the boxy "asthetic" of the rest of
> the machine. If only they had made a lip around the outside...
>
> R

Ah, yes....Devon and Brian anticipated the OPV upgrade and ordered a
bunch. They should be here in the next week or so. Also for those that
like the new drip tray, it will be offered as well. Thanks for your
support!

Terry Z



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 04:05:13
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
My new shipment from Rancilio arrived late yesterday, so I just managed to
get a look at the new Silvias today. Some interesting observations:

The shiny chrome group collar is some sort of plastic.

The drop out plate in the group doesn't appear to have any effect on water
distribution; at a guess it's there for the pod conversion kit.

There have been big changes to the boiler casting; the thermowell is gone,
the steam is now drawn directly from the top of the boiler, there is an
additional hex fitting joining the boiler to the inlet/OPV casting and the
overtemp thermostat has been relocated. There goes the spare parts budget,
I'll be carrying dual boiler sets forever.

Pics (in advance of newsletter) are up at
http://www.coffeeco.com.au/newsletter/november2006.html .


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au




   
Date: 04 Nov 2006 12:16:18
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
Coffee for Connoisseurs wrote:
> The shiny chrome group collar is some sort of plastic.

Yuck

> The drop out plate in the group doesn't appear to have any effect on water
> distribution; at a guess it's there for the pod conversion kit.

If the shower screen and mushroom fitting are off, and you turn on the pump,
does the 200F water still come shooting out and hit you in the crotch?

--


-Andy S.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/


    
Date: 04 Nov 2006 23:40:03
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
>If the shower screen and mushroom fitting are off, and you turn on the
>pump, does the 200F water still come shooting out and hit you in the
>crotch?

Nah. I'm an expert at this sort of thing, remember? I stand off to one
side.<G >

Re the thermowell, it might still actually be there. Bottom right of the
"brew" thermostat, the one with the red dot, there's a little dark half
circle. I think that's the relocated thermowell, logical place for it I
suppose. I'll check up later today.


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au




    
Date: 04 Nov 2006 13:57:50
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

"Andy Schecter" <schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com > wrote in message
news:mw%2h.3681$xw1.2442@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Coffee for Connoisseurs wrote:
>> The shiny chrome group collar is some sort of plastic.
>
> Yuck
>
>> The drop out plate in the group doesn't appear to have any effect on
>> water distribution; at a guess it's there for the pod conversion kit.
>
> If the shower screen and mushroom fitting are off, and you turn on the
> pump, does the 200F water still come shooting out and hit you in the
> crotch?


Don't laugh, I had that happen to me & I was standing in front of the
machine in my underware cleaning the grouphead when I inadvertently
turned on the brew switch! Thank God it didn't hit me you know where,
but to the right on my upper right thigh.. {;-o
Craig.




    
Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:41:25
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
Andy Schecter <schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com > wrote:


>If the shower screen and mushroom fitting are off, and you turn on the pump,
>does the 200F water still come shooting out and hit you in the crotch?
>
I hope it still does that! I would miss it- sort of like a dope-slap
from a girlfriend when you screw up! ;-)

Randy "Sorry, Dear. Yes, Dear." G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:14:40
From:
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

Andy Schecter wrote:
> terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
> > Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
> >
> > http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
>
> Is the group really different or is it just the sheath covering it that's
> different?
>
> Are you offering a version with a rotary pump? :-)
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> -Andy S.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/

It is the same group but a really nice cover. I think it will effect
the thermal stabilty of the group by shielding heat loss. We will scace
it later today ;-)

I'm not sure if I'm serious about that last statement, but you know it
is possible. On the Wega Sphera, it had a decorative cover that added
to stability just by chance........

Rotary and PID actually, with warranty, hell I will even publish my
phone number ;-)



  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 02:34:02
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
> Rotary and PID actually, with warranty, hell I will even publish my
> phone number ;-)

That sounds great, but please try to keep your posts under 30 a day. :-)


--


-Andy S.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/


  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:37:31
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:

>
>Rotary and PID actually, with warranty, hell I will even publish my
>phone number ;-)
>

It says on the page that you want someone to be the first to review
the machine... I'll be your Huckleberry!

Particularly if it comes in a rotary version!
I already have the PID! ;-)


Randy "..and with some epoxy I'd have a Silvia two group!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:33:56
From: jggall01
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

Randy G. wrote:

> Take a look at the internal pic. There is a stainless steel, socket
> head bolt in the front, base of the boiler, pointing towards the front
> of the machine that I do not remember seeing before (I have never had
> to disassemble the boiler). Looks like it could be a place for a
> sensor for a future PID installation... from the factory??? No?
>

That is on current models, too. It is the threaded socket into which
Eric S style Swagelok adapters can be fitted. I have a couple of
machines with thermocouples installed here. Very useful for monitoring
group temp and brew water temp (albeit upstream of screen).

Not useful, IMHO, for priy PID control because it is too low on the
boiler.

Jim



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 16:27:51
From:
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.

http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA



  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 00:21:32
From: RBeech
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:27:51 -0800, <terryz@espressoparts.com > wrote:

> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
>
> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
>


Terry -

will you have the new adjustable OPV available for sale soon?

I think the new grouphead styling looks great. I really don't like the
drip tray cover though. :( It doesn't look any more functional than my old
one, and it doesn't seem to fit with the boxy "asthetic" of the rest of
the machine. If only they had made a lip around the outside...

R


   
Date: 02 Nov 2006 17:54:04
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
RBeech <getfaxBUTDELETETHIS@telus.net > wrote:


>Terry -
>
>will you have the new adjustable OPV available for sale soon?
>
I was thinking the same thing...

>I think the new grouphead styling looks great. I really don't like the
>drip tray cover though. :( It doesn't look any more functional than my old
>one, and it doesn't seem to fit with the boxy "asthetic" of the rest of
>the machine. If only they had made a lip around the outside...
>
A lip might be a "catch" to tip over a finished shot when you pulled
it out from under the PF first thing in the morning when the eyes
aren't open yet.


Randy "not that it has ever happened to me... today" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 02:24:20
From: Andy Schecter
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
>
> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA

Is the group really different or is it just the sheath covering it that's
different?

Are you offering a version with a rotary pump? :-)



--


-Andy S.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/andy_s/sets/


   
Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:26:02
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
Andy Schecter <schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com > wrote:

>terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
>> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
>>
>> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
>
>Is the group really different or is it just the sheath covering it that's
>different?
>
Take a look at the internal pic. There is a stainless steel, socket
head bolt in the front, base of the boiler, pointing towards the front
of the machine that I do not remember seeing before (I have never had
to disassemble the boiler). Looks like it could be a place for a
sensor for a future PID installation... from the factory??? No?


Randy "brewhead cover does look nice" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




    
Date: 03 Nov 2006 19:58:49
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006, Randy G <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:
> Andy Schecter <schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
> >> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
> >>
> >> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
> >
> >Is the group really different or is it just the sheath covering it that's
> >different?
> >
> Take a look at the internal pic. There is a stainless steel, socket
> head bolt in the front, base of the boiler, pointing towards the front
> of the machine that I do not remember seeing before

My Silvia has that socket head bolt, and is nearly two years old.

regards, Ian SMith
--


    
Date: 03 Nov 2006 10:12:01
From: Eric Svendson
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
As Jim said, this M6 x 8 mm allen hd screw has been with Silvia since day
one. It plugs the necessary crossdrilling of the water passage to the
group.

The changes which have been made to the Rancilio Silvia (that I am aware of)
since September 1999 are:

a. thermal overload protection for vibration pump
b. one piece heating element/upper boiler unit
c. easily adjustable overpressure valve (OPV)
d. slotted hex hd screw for group screen
e. thermowell (0.245 x 1.2 inches) in boiler
f. wiring insulated with "plastic" vice woven cloth

The thermal overload for the little Ulka is shown on the electrical
schematic in my owners manual but my machine was never equipped with one
(about three days ago that was unfortunate). The easily adjustable OPV was
reported by a user who purchased his Silvia from 1stLine in November 2005.
The thermowell in Silvia's boiler was discussed on CG and Alan Frew reported
that it existed circa 2000. Alan also reported on his website pictures of
another "new" Silvia that apparently did not make it to production -
http://www.coffeeco.com.au/articles/host2003.html

The thermowell dimensions were reported by a poster on CG -
http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/223831 - last post. It
is apparently not used by Rancilio thus far.

Mounting this little toy vertically in Silvia might prove entertaining -
http://www.fluid-o-tech.com/files/TMFR.pdf

Eric S.



"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:bp6kk25rkol2d0smbbpe00ltqfk6jbpsdp@4ax.com...
> Andy Schecter <schecter@remove.me.rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>terryz@espressoparts.com wrote:
>>> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
>>>
>>> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
>>
>>Is the group really different or is it just the sheath covering it that's
>>different?
>>
> Take a look at the internal pic. There is a stainless steel, socket
> head bolt in the front, base of the boiler, pointing towards the front
> of the machine that I do not remember seeing before (I have never had
> to disassemble the boiler). Looks like it could be a place for a
> sensor for a future PID installation... from the factory??? No?
>
>
> Randy "brewhead cover does look nice" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>




  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 20:53:30
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

<terryz@espressoparts.com > wrote in message
news:1162427271.783610.43830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Here are some early shots Espresso Parts Style.
>
> http://espressoparts2.zoovy.com/product/SILVIA
>

WoW! hey Terry, a LOT better than Rancilio Italy's pics., & ya beat
Chris N of Chris Coffee to it too!! Hehee! {;-)
Craig.



 
Date: 31 Oct 2006 18:23:02
From: daveb
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
that is correct and has been shipping for a while.

dave
145.5

cpl593h wrote:
> Apparently there's a new OPV under the hood too.
>
> shall wrote:
> > At the Rancilio.it website:
> > http://rancilio.it/rancilio/prod_model.jsp?id_model=49&id_language=3&id_category=26
> >
> > There is a new, tapered group that looks larger. The drip tray cover
> > is a more attractive design. Anyone know any more details?
> >
> > shall



 
Date: 31 Oct 2006 16:46:41
From: cpl593h
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
Apparently there's a new OPV under the hood too.

shall wrote:
> At the Rancilio.it website:
> http://rancilio.it/rancilio/prod_model.jsp?id_model=49&id_language=3&id_category=26
>
> There is a new, tapered group that looks larger. The drip tray cover
> is a more attractive design. Anyone know any more details?
>
> shall



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 04:03:27
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia
On 31 Oct 2006 16:46:41 -0800, "cpl593h" <CPL593H@gmail.com > wrote:

>Apparently there's a new OPV under the hood too.

Yeah, the ones I got were factory set to 10 bar on a blind filter -- I
was pleasantly surprised.


  
Date: 31 Oct 2006 20:17:04
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: 5 pix of the new Silvia

"cpl593h" <CPL593H@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1162342001.205361.234320@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Apparently there's a new OPV under the hood too.
>
> shall wrote:
>> At the Rancilio.it website:
>> http://rancilio.it/rancilio/prod_model.jsp?id_model=49&id_language=3&id_category=26
>>
>> There is a new, tapered group that looks larger. The drip tray cover
>> is a more attractive design. Anyone know any more details?
>>
>> shall
>


I got the notification of all the particulars on the Chris Coffee
Newsletter yesterday Mon Oct 30th @ 10:48PM. Quote: "First there is a
NEW Rancilio Silvia on the ket and Chris' Coffee Service has them in
stock as of today. The NEW Silvia has an adjustable expansion valve,
different group, different drip try cover, and is POD adaptable. We will
have images of the NEW Silvia up on our site by the end of the week,
which will show the NEW features."

More stuff in the Newsletter.
Craig.