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Date: 01 Feb 2007 09:18:42
From: Jenn
Subject: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.

I've heard great things about the AeroPress. I also noticed that
SwissGold has a one cup brewer. So I'm trying to decide between the
two (although other comparable suggestions are welcome) The only thing
that concerns me about the AeroPress is the paper filter. I like the
idea of a gold filter so that the dissolved solids make it into my cup
and there's no paper taste in the cup either. However, the AeroPress
seems to get such good reviews that maybe it's not as much of a
problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
you pick?

Thanks!

Jenn





 
Date: 06 Feb 2007 16:01:41
From:
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
On Feb 6, 10:19 am, "Jenn" <jennifer.wick...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 6, 4:42 am, "Jasonian" <jason.hae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 11:22 am, Dave S <dabcsch...@mts.not> wrote:
>
> > > Jasonian wrote:
> > > > SwissGold = drip
>
> > > > Aeropress = Aeropress
>
> > > > They are two entirely different brew methods.
>
> > > > Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
> > > > comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>
> > > > The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
> > > > matter of personal preference.
>
> > > > Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>
> > > > There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>
> > > Sigh .....
>
> > > I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
> > > You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade grinder
> > > with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
> > > Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.
>
> > > If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
> > > opportunity to remain silent?
>
> > > Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
> > > instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
> > > ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the reasons
> > > I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold One-cup.
>
> > > Dave S.
>
> > Do you do everything anyone tells you to? Why follow the
> > instructions? Alan is far from a coffee expert. He has done a lot of
> > research to create the Aeropress, but that's not to say that using
> > twice the coffee is indicative of the brew profile of the Aeropress...
> > it's just the suggested use in the booklet.
>
> > Have you tried using MORE COFFEE in a drip method to see if you prefer
> > those results?
>
> > Pressure brewing is an entirely different beast than drip. I don't
> > care who you ask, or what you think about how "useless" my facts may
> > be.
>
> > I didn't realize it was an opinion you were after. I thought we were
> > all searching for facts.
>
> > If you want my opinion, I would prefer..... *drumroll*...... both.
> > Why? I like variety. They're different. Although I'm still waiting
> > for the metal filters before I order an Aeropress for myself. I have
> > tried it. It was okay. It wasn't anything spectacular, but it was
> > certainly different from any other brew method I have ever tried.
> > (espresso, cafe crema, drip, moka, french press, vacuum, even full
> > submersion filtered through a dishrag)
>
> > That having been said, I'd say it's alot like comparing apple juice
> > and orange juice. Which is better will depend on who you ask. It's
> > purely subjective to personal preference.
>
> > If you want to talk quality, let's begin talking about the COFFEE, and
> > not the brewer.
>
> > In terms of clean-up, I'd say they're about equal. The Aeropress
> > seems to fit better in a purse, if that matters at all.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks everyone for your comments, opinions etc... I have ordered the
> AeroPress, and I'll be using it with freshly roasted coffee, ground on
> my Rocky. I can't wait for its' arrival!!!
>
> Jenn

Realizing that you already made the purchase, Bodum makes a 12 oz
French Press. I use one regularly for my work coffee. I also use a
Nissan Thermos "tea tumbler" for drinking the coffee as the net amount
of coffee from the Bodum fills it.
http://thermos.com/Product_detail.aspx?CatCode=NISS&SubcategoryID=7&ProductID=521
I just ordered the SwissGold TF 300 (tea filter) and I'm going to try
brewing \ immersion directly in the Nissan.
http://www.swissgold.com/e/t_produkt03.asp
Don't really know how this will turn out but I figured it's worth a
try and if the results are good, clean up will be a bit easier than
with the Bodum. I was contemplating the SwissGold one cup filter,
however, by brewing directly in the Nissan, the heat will be retained
better during the immersion. Also, I didn't know for certain if the
once cup filter could handle 12 oz all at once as I didn't want to
have to do a slow pour.
Just wanted to throw out some additional options for people with the
same goals.



 
Date: 06 Feb 2007 07:19:36
From: Jenn
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
On Feb 6, 4:42 am, "Jasonian" <jason.hae...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 5, 11:22 am, Dave S <dabcsch...@mts.not> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jasonian wrote:
> > > SwissGold = drip
>
> > > Aeropress = Aeropress
>
> > > They are two entirely different brew methods.
>
> > > Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
> > > comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>
> > > The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
> > > matter of personal preference.
>
> > > Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>
> > > There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>
> > Sigh .....
>
> > I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
> > You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade grinder
> > with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
> > Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.
>
> > If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
> > opportunity to remain silent?
>
> > Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
> > instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
> > ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the reasons
> > I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold One-cup.
>
> > Dave S.
>
> Do you do everything anyone tells you to? Why follow the
> instructions? Alan is far from a coffee expert. He has done a lot of
> research to create the Aeropress, but that's not to say that using
> twice the coffee is indicative of the brew profile of the Aeropress...
> it's just the suggested use in the booklet.
>
> Have you tried using MORE COFFEE in a drip method to see if you prefer
> those results?
>
> Pressure brewing is an entirely different beast than drip. I don't
> care who you ask, or what you think about how "useless" my facts may
> be.
>
> I didn't realize it was an opinion you were after. I thought we were
> all searching for facts.
>
> If you want my opinion, I would prefer..... *drumroll*...... both.
> Why? I like variety. They're different. Although I'm still waiting
> for the metal filters before I order an Aeropress for myself. I have
> tried it. It was okay. It wasn't anything spectacular, but it was
> certainly different from any other brew method I have ever tried.
> (espresso, cafe crema, drip, moka, french press, vacuum, even full
> submersion filtered through a dishrag)
>
> That having been said, I'd say it's alot like comparing apple juice
> and orange juice. Which is better will depend on who you ask. It's
> purely subjective to personal preference.
>
> If you want to talk quality, let's begin talking about the COFFEE, and
> not the brewer.
>
> In terms of clean-up, I'd say they're about equal. The Aeropress
> seems to fit better in a purse, if that matters at all.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks everyone for your comments, opinions etc... I have ordered the
AeroPress, and I'll be using it with freshly roasted coffee, ground on
my Rocky. I can't wait for its' arrival!!!

Jenn



 
Date: 06 Feb 2007 01:42:29
From: Jasonian
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
On Feb 5, 11:22 am, Dave S <dabcsch...@mts.not > wrote:
> Jasonian wrote:
> > SwissGold = drip
>
> > Aeropress = Aeropress
>
> > They are two entirely different brew methods.
>
> > Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
> > comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>
> > The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
> > matter of personal preference.
>
> > Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>
> > There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>
> Sigh .....
>
> I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
> You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade grinder
> with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
> Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.
>
> If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
> opportunity to remain silent?
>
> Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
> instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
> ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the reasons
> I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold One-cup.
>
> Dave S.

Do you do everything anyone tells you to? Why follow the
instructions? Alan is far from a coffee expert. He has done a lot of
research to create the Aeropress, but that's not to say that using
twice the coffee is indicative of the brew profile of the Aeropress...
it's just the suggested use in the booklet.

Have you tried using MORE COFFEE in a drip method to see if you prefer
those results?

Pressure brewing is an entirely different beast than drip. I don't
care who you ask, or what you think about how "useless" my facts may
be.

I didn't realize it was an opinion you were after. I thought we were
all searching for facts.

If you want my opinion, I would prefer..... *drumroll*...... both.
Why? I like variety. They're different. Although I'm still waiting
for the metal filters before I order an Aeropress for myself. I have
tried it. It was okay. It wasn't anything spectacular, but it was
certainly different from any other brew method I have ever tried.
(espresso, cafe crema, drip, moka, french press, vacuum, even full
submersion filtered through a dishrag)

That having been said, I'd say it's alot like comparing apple juice
and orange juice. Which is better will depend on who you ask. It's
purely subjective to personal preference.

If you want to talk quality, let's begin talking about the COFFEE, and
not the brewer.

In terms of clean-up, I'd say they're about equal. The Aeropress
seems to fit better in a purse, if that matters at all.



 
Date: 05 Feb 2007 02:06:00
From: Jasonian
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
SwissGold = drip

Aeropress = Aeropress

They are two entirely different brew methods.

Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.

The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
matter of personal preference.

Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.

There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.



  
Date: 05 Feb 2007 11:22:11
From: Dave S
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
Jasonian wrote:
> SwissGold = drip
>
> Aeropress = Aeropress
>
> They are two entirely different brew methods.
>
> Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
> comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>
> The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
> matter of personal preference.
>
> Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>
> There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>

Sigh .....

I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade grinder
with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.

If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
opportunity to remain silent?

Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the reasons
I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold One-cup.

Dave S.


   
Date: 05 Feb 2007 18:47:27
From: Jeff
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
Dave S wrote:
> Jasonian wrote:
>> SwissGold = drip
>>
>> Aeropress = Aeropress
>>
>> They are two entirely different brew methods.
>>
>> Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
>> comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>>
>> The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
>> matter of personal preference.
>>
>> Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>>
>> There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>>
>
> Sigh .....
>
> I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
> You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade grinder
> with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
> Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.
>
> If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
> opportunity to remain silent?
>
> Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
> instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
> ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the reasons
> I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold One-cup.
>
> Dave S.

I have an Eva Solo that makes delicious coffee. I think of it as Swiss
Gold with a somewhat profile because the water gets added all at once.

So if I use twice the coffee, and serve it in half the time, will it
have "more flavor"?




    
Date: 05 Feb 2007 20:02:00
From: Dave S
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
Jeff wrote:
> Dave S wrote:
>> Jasonian wrote:
>>> SwissGold = drip
>>>
>>> Aeropress = Aeropress
>>>
>>> They are two entirely different brew methods.
>>>
>>> Comparing the "quality" of the resulting brew between the two is like
>>> comparing apple juice and orange juice to see which is better.
>>>
>>> The answer is that it will depend on who you ask, as it is purely a
>>> matter of personal preference.
>>>
>>> Some will prefer the Swiss Gold, others will prefer the Aeropress.
>>>
>>> There is no quick answer. The two brews are not the same.
>>>
>>
>> Sigh .....
>>
>> I get so tired of this unthoughtful, unhelpful response.
>> You might as well say there isn't any point in comparing a blade
>> grinder with a high quality burr grinder, or comparing Folgers with
>> Intelligentcia, because some people will prefer one, and some another.
>>
>> If you can't add some information to the discussion, why not pick that
>> opportunity to remain silent?
>>
>> Here is an item that might help in the comparison: following the
>> instructions to make coffee with the Aeropress will use twice as much
>> ground coffee as drip methods. I do that. That may be one of the
>> reasons I get more flavour from the Aeropress than from the SwissGold
>> One-cup.
>>
>> Dave S.
>
> I have an Eva Solo that makes delicious coffee. I think of it as Swiss
> Gold with a somewhat profile because the water gets added all at once.
>
> So if I use twice the coffee, and serve it in half the time, will it
> have "more flavor"?
>
>
... and then squeeze it through a filter under pressure?

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Dave S.


 
Date: 02 Feb 2007 15:49:25
From: Mud Pup
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
Jenn wrote:
>
> I like the
> idea of a gold filter so that the dissolved solids make it into my cup
> and there's no paper taste in the cup either.

If something dissolves in water, it will pass through paper. The
only thing gold mesh lets through is coffee dust, aka "dregs".

If your priorities are taste, and convenient brewing and cleaning,
try a simple cone filter. With strong grounds like Peet's, my
cone makes the best coffee I've had. As far as clean-up, you just
dump the filter into the trash. No stirring. No plunging. No sink
involved. No stray used grounds.

I haven't tried the Aeropress so maybe there's some appeal there
that I'm not aware of, however, for something like $1.99 at your
local drug store, a cone is worth a try.


 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 18:04:33
From: Jenn
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
On Feb 1, 1:49 pm, Dave S <dabcsch...@mts.not > wrote:
> Jenn wrote:
> > I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
> > home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
> > mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.
>
> > I've heard great things about the AeroPress. I also noticed that
> > SwissGold has a one cup brewer. So I'm trying to decide between the
> > two (although other comparable suggestions are welcome) The only thing
> > that concerns me about the AeroPress is the paper filter. I like the
> > idea of a gold filter so that the dissolved solids make it into my cup
> > and there's no paper taste in the cup either. However, the AeroPress
> > seems to get such good reviews that maybe it's not as much of a
> > problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
> > you pick?
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Jenn
>
> Before the Aeropress became available, my coffee maker of choice was the
> SwissGold one-cup. I liked it so much that I bought another one for my
> wife. I'm not a fan of dregs in the bottom of the cup, but I put up with
> it because of the otherwise good coffee it makes.
>
> Then the Aeropress arrived on the ket, and immediately got great
> reviews, along with scorn for it's claims to make espresso. I'm not that
> much of an expresso fan that I would get offended. So I bought one.
>
> I haven't used the SwissGold one-cup for my own coffee since. My wife
> still uses those, because she doesn't like learning new technology. For
> me, the Aeropress cup has much more flavour. And it also doesn't leave
> any silt in the bottom of my cup. Who said, "Good to the very last
> drop!"? It applies to the coffee made in an Aeropress.
>
> Dave S.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

More flavour sounds wonderful to me! Thanks for the comparison.

Jenn



 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 18:03:01
From: Jenn
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
On Feb 1, 1:16 pm, k Wallace <kewall...@austin.rr.com > wrote:
> > I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
> > home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
> > mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.
>
> > problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
> > you pick?
>
> I have both. From a quality perspective, I think I like the SwissGold maybe
> (maybe) a little bit more, but for ease of use and cleanup at work, I prefer
> the Aeropress.
>
> - k

Thanks k, that's good to know. ease of clean-up is important since
I will be doing this at work.

Jenn



 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 12:49:43
From: Dave S
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
Jenn wrote:
> I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
> home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
> mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.
>
> I've heard great things about the AeroPress. I also noticed that
> SwissGold has a one cup brewer. So I'm trying to decide between the
> two (although other comparable suggestions are welcome) The only thing
> that concerns me about the AeroPress is the paper filter. I like the
> idea of a gold filter so that the dissolved solids make it into my cup
> and there's no paper taste in the cup either. However, the AeroPress
> seems to get such good reviews that maybe it's not as much of a
> problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
> you pick?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jenn
>

Before the Aeropress became available, my coffee maker of choice was the
SwissGold one-cup. I liked it so much that I bought another one for my
wife. I'm not a fan of dregs in the bottom of the cup, but I put up with
it because of the otherwise good coffee it makes.

Then the Aeropress arrived on the ket, and immediately got great
reviews, along with scorn for it's claims to make espresso. I'm not that
much of an expresso fan that I would get offended. So I bought one.

I haven't used the SwissGold one-cup for my own coffee since. My wife
still uses those, because she doesn't like learning new technology. For
me, the Aeropress cup has much more flavour. And it also doesn't leave
any silt in the bottom of my cup. Who said, "Good to the very last
drop!"? It applies to the coffee made in an Aeropress.

Dave S.


  
Date: 04 Feb 2007 15:46:41
From: Anon
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer

"Dave S" <dabcschell@mts.not > wrote in message
news:FCqwh.197891$Yu6.15053@newsfe16.lga...
> Jenn wrote:
>> I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
>> home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
>> mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.
>>
>> I've heard great things about the AeroPress. I also noticed that
>> SwissGold has a one cup brewer. So I'm trying to decide between the
>> two (although other comparable suggestions are welcome) The only thing
>> that concerns me about the AeroPress is the paper filter. I like the
>> idea of a gold filter so that the dissolved solids make it into my cup
>> and there's no paper taste in the cup either. However, the AeroPress
>> seems to get such good reviews that maybe it's not as much of a
>> problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
>> you pick?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>
> Before the Aeropress became available, my coffee maker of choice was the
> SwissGold one-cup. I liked it so much that I bought another one for my
> wife. I'm not a fan of dregs in the bottom of the cup, but I put up with
> it because of the otherwise good coffee it makes.
>
> Then the Aeropress arrived on the ket, and immediately got great
> reviews, along with scorn for it's claims to make espresso. I'm not that
> much of an expresso fan that I would get offended. So I bought one.
>
> I haven't used the SwissGold one-cup for my own coffee since. My wife
> still uses those, because she doesn't like learning new technology. For
> me, the Aeropress cup has much more flavour. And it also doesn't leave any
> silt in the bottom of my cup. Who said, "Good to the very last drop!"? It
> applies to the coffee made in an Aeropress.
>
> Dave S.

I fully agree with Dave S, Aeropress makes a much better tasting cup that
the SwissGold and I really love the easy clean up.

Anon




 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 18:16:55
From: Mark Wallace
Subject: Re: AeroPress vs. The SwissGold One Cup Coffee Brewer
> I'm trying to decide on a good, compact, brewer for use at work. At
> home I use our Rocky/Silvia combo to make espresso drinks, but some
> mornings my schedule doesn't allow me the luxury of making them.
>
> problem as I thought. Any opinions? Has anyone tried both? Which would
> you pick?
>

I have both. From a quality perspective, I think I like the SwissGold maybe
(maybe) a little bit more, but for ease of use and cleanup at work, I prefer
the Aeropress.

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