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Date: 06 Sep 2007 21:38:53
From: Sherpa
Subject: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
For example, how long does it usually take for the first stream of
coffee to start coming out?




 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 19:40:18
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
Sherpa wrote:
> For example, how long does it usually take for the first stream of
> coffee to start coming out?

If the grind is right, anywhere from 7-9 seconds before the flow
starts. End when it lightens, which should be 20-30 seconds after you
pressed the button. See my site below (FAQ section) for more information.

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Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)



  
Date: 06 Sep 2007 13:48:28
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
Howdy Danny!
How would that translate to my machine, which has a 7 second preinfusion as
part of the brew cycle?
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Robert Harmon
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http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

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"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
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> Sherpa wrote:
>> For example, how long does it usually take for the first stream of coffee
>> to start coming out?
>
> If the grind is right, anywhere from 7-9 seconds before the flow starts.
> End when it lightens, which should be 20-30 seconds after you pressed the
> button. See my site below (FAQ section) for more information.
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> (apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)
>




   
Date: 07 Sep 2007 18:37:54
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
Robert Harmon wrote:
> Howdy Danny!
> How would that translate to my machine, which has a 7 second preinfusion as
> part of the brew cycle?

It's normal (as far as previous advice here has been given) that the
cycle starts when you press the brew switch, not when liquid appears
at the spouts. I don't tend to count preinfusion as part of the
brewing cycle in my case since my machines preinfuse when the lever is
lowered, but not under spring pressure - at this time water is
admitted and preinfuses under boiler pressure (1.1 bar). I don't know
what the parameters are wrt you machines' preinfusion.

--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)



 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 13:53:37
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?

"Sherpa" <a@a.com > wrote in message
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> For example, how long does it usually take for the first stream of coffee
> to start coming out?

Is that what pulling means?
I can't get a handle on this word as used.
Dee Dee




  
Date: 07 Sep 2007 18:39:01
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
Dee Dee wrote:

> Is that what pulling means?
> I can't get a handle on this word as used.
> Dee Dee

See my site below for the machines I use, that the term "pulling a
shot" refers to...


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)



  
Date: 06 Sep 2007 19:03:07
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
Pulling a shot used to be a literal term. The older machines actually had a
long arm that you would have to pull down to achieve the correct pressure
for the shot. It took much more skill to 'pull' a good shot than it does
now with only a button to push on many machines.
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Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
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"Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Sherpa" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:46dfe6cd$0$1462$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> For example, how long does it usually take for the first stream of coffee
>> to start coming out?
>
> Is that what pulling means?
> I can't get a handle on this word as used.
> Dee Dee
>




  
Date: 06 Sep 2007 17:19:20
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:53:37 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote:

>Is that what pulling means?
>I can't get a handle on this word as used.

It just means "brewing." It derives from older espresso machines, which used a
hand-powered pump, and thus required pulling a lever.

-- Larry


   
Date: 06 Sep 2007 17:45:49
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?

"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:53:37 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>>Is that what pulling means?
>>I can't get a handle on this word as used.
>
> It just means "brewing." It derives from older espresso machines, which
> used a
> hand-powered pump, and thus required pulling a lever.
>
> -- Larry

Thanks, Larry.
I saw your beautiful kitchen picture today of the pots/pans. I can't say
what is going on with mine.
Dee Dee




    
Date: 06 Sep 2007 22:53:31
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:45:49 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote:

>I saw your beautiful kitchen picture today of the pots/pans. I can't say
>what is going on with mine.

Hope it's good things that are happening. We're waiting to see pictures of the
new countertops over in rec.food.equipment.

-- Larry


     
Date: 07 Sep 2007 21:21:21
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?

"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:45:49 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>>I saw your beautiful kitchen picture today of the pots/pans. I can't say
>>what is going on with mine.
>
> Hope it's good things that are happening. We're waiting to see pictures of
> the
> new countertops over in rec.food.equipment.
>
> -- Larry

Thanks, Larry. Today was a hopeful day. I learned to do write-ups from
your postings about your job. I have written up every detail. And the
flooring was ordered this morning.

My Rocky grinder came today. Fast delivery -- 2 or 3 days. But it will
have to wait; too many irons in the fire.
Dee





      
Date: 07 Sep 2007 23:50:51
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:21:21 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote:

>> Hope it's good things that are happening. We're waiting to see pictures of
>> the new countertops over in rec.food.equipment.
>
>Thanks, Larry. Today was a hopeful day. I learned to do write-ups from
>your postings about your job. I have written up every detail. And the
>flooring was ordered this morning.

Glad to hear it. One thing I learned from our job was that the write-ups
constitute a handy record in case of any warranty or similar problems.

>My Rocky grinder came today. Fast delivery -- 2 or 3 days. But it will
>have to wait; too many irons in the fire.

It's always good to have something to look forward to!

-- Larry



 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 12:54:46
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Any solid rules for pulling espresso shots?

Don't put petrol in the machine reservoir, nor semolina in the
porta-filter.

regards, Ian SMith
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