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Date: 01 Aug 2007 14:27:08
From: Godzilla
Subject: Bottomless portafilter question
No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
Has everyone encountered this behavior?

Godzilla




 
Date: 02 Aug 2007 20:49:33
From: TJ
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question
On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org > wrote:
> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
> to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
> bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
> Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>
> Godzilla


Okay, same set-up!

I found that the pf basket just has some grounds in the screen.
You can use a needle or something small enough to poke the holes
clean.

Simple.



 
Date: 02 Aug 2007 02:28:04
From: Jazzed
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question
On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org > wrote:
> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
> to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
> bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
> Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>
> Godzilla

I had had similar issues when I first stated with the bottomless
portafilter, however I found that it was resulting from poor
distribution or an uneven tamp.



 
Date: 01 Aug 2007 19:53:12
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question
On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org > wrote:
> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
> to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
> bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
> Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>
> Godzilla

I'm using the same setup (PID'd Silvia) and have been using a
bottomless for quite a while. I occasionally get a spritzer, but the
vast majority of my shots are textbook in terms of appearance (not
always in terms of taste). I think the bottomless really helped me get
my dosing, distributing, tamping act together. I use a convex tamper
and do the spinny ulation thing (sort of like the north,south,east,
west thing, but a continuous motion for a few turns) and then a very
light tamp followed by a semi-firm polish. It's gotten very consistent
over the months and I almost never have a bad shot and even the ones
with a small spritzer are contained enough to work well.

No secrets, just practice practice practice.

-Ray



  
Date: 01 Aug 2007 22:26:33
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question
ramboorider@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org> wrote:
>> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
>> to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
>> bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
>> Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>>
>> Godzilla
>
> I'm using the same setup (PID'd Silvia) and have been using a
> bottomless for quite a while. I occasionally get a spritzer, but the
> vast majority of my shots are textbook in terms of appearance (not
> always in terms of taste). I think the bottomless really helped me get
> my dosing, distributing, tamping act together. I use a convex tamper
> and do the spinny ulation thing (sort of like the north,south,east,
> west thing, but a continuous motion for a few turns) and then a very
> light tamp followed by a semi-firm polish. It's gotten very consistent
> over the months and I almost never have a bad shot and even the ones
> with a small spritzer are contained enough to work well.
>
> No secrets, just practice practice practice.
>
> -Ray
>
OK, I use a bottomless PF in a different machine. My tamping ritual
is as follows: I have a modified bar stool that holds the PF in place.
After dosing 17.34783 grams of coffee in a LM double basket I mount the
PF to the stool, place the tamper in the pf and, holding the tamper
firmly, walk clockwise around the PF 4 times, then 3 times
counterclockwise then 2 times clockwise then 1 time counterclockwise. I
them remove the PF from the stool and do a polishing tamp while
genuflecting 3 times but the polish twirls are only done on the down
stroke. I then dance 4 bars of an old soft shoe, finish with a
pirouette, lock and load and good to go. I get spritzes when the beans
are old or the grind is off.

R "no religion involved, this is science" TF


   
Date: 03 Aug 2007 13:16:15
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question

"Moka Java" <rtwatches@fishyahoo.com > wrote in message
news:5hctujF3jquq4U1@mid.individual.net...
> ramboorider@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org> wrote:
>>> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID continue
>>> to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when using the
>>> bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the backsplash. :-(
>>> Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>>>
>>> Godzilla
>>
>> I'm using the same setup (PID'd Silvia) and have been using a
>> bottomless for quite a while. I occasionally get a spritzer, but the
>> vast majority of my shots are textbook in terms of appearance (not
>> always in terms of taste). I think the bottomless really helped me get
>> my dosing, distributing, tamping act together. I use a convex tamper
>> and do the spinny ulation thing (sort of like the north,south,east,
>> west thing, but a continuous motion for a few turns) and then a very
>> light tamp followed by a semi-firm polish. It's gotten very consistent
>> over the months and I almost never have a bad shot and even the ones
>> with a small spritzer are contained enough to work well.
>>
>> No secrets, just practice practice practice.
>>
>> -Ray
>>
> OK, I use a bottomless PF in a different machine. My tamping ritual is
> as follows: I have a modified bar stool that holds the PF in place. After
> dosing 17.34783 grams of coffee in a LM double basket I mount the PF to
> the stool, place the tamper in the pf and, holding the tamper firmly,
> walk clockwise around the PF 4 times, then 3 times counterclockwise then 2
> times clockwise then 1 time counterclockwise. I them remove the PF from
> the stool and do a polishing tamp while genuflecting 3 times but the
> polish twirls are only done on the down stroke. I then dance 4 bars of an
> old soft shoe, finish with a pirouette, lock and load and good to go. I
> get spritzes when the beans are old or the grind is off.
>
> R "no religion involved, this is science" TF

Much you have to learn, padewan. Keep trying you must. Do not give in to the
dark side and use instant- that way lies madness.




   
Date: 02 Aug 2007 08:26:19
From: Godzilla
Subject: Re: Bottomless portafilter question
Moka Java wrote:

> Re: Bottomless portafilter question
> From:
> Moka Java <rtwatches@fishyahoo.com>
> Date:
> Wednesday 01 August 2007 09:26:33 pm
> Groups:
> alt.coffee
> References: 1 2
> ramboorider@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Aug 1, 3:27 pm, Godzilla <godzi...@monsters.org> wrote:
>>> No matter what I do, the shots from the Silvia with the PID
>>> continue to delight me. However, I have noticed one anomality when
>>> using the bottomless PF. It sprays all over the counter and the
>>> backsplash. :-( Has everyone encountered this behavior?
>>>
>>> Godzilla
>>
>> I'm using the same setup (PID'd Silvia) and have been using a
>> bottomless for quite a while. I occasionally get a spritzer, but
>> the vast majority of my shots are textbook in terms of appearance
>> (not always in terms of taste). I think the bottomless really
>> helped me get my dosing, distributing, tamping act together. I use
>> a convex tamper and do the spinny ulation thing (sort of like the
>> north,south,east, west thing, but a continuous motion for a few
>> turns) and then a very light tamp followed by a semi-firm polish.
>> It's gotten very consistent over the months and I almost never have
>> a bad shot and even the ones with a small spritzer are contained
>> enough to work well.
>>
>> No secrets, just practice practice practice.
>>
>> -Ray
>>
> OK, I use a bottomless PF in a different machine.  My tamping ritual
> is as follows: I have a modified bar stool that holds the PF in
> place. After dosing 17.34783 grams of coffee in a LM double basket I
> mount the PF to the stool, place the tamper in the pf and, holding
> the tamper firmly,  walk clockwise around the PF 4 times, then 3
> times counterclockwise then 2 times clockwise then 1 time
> counterclockwise.  I them remove the PF from the stool and do a
> polishing tamp while genuflecting 3 times but the polish twirls are
> only done on the down stroke.  I then dance 4 bars of an old soft
> shoe, finish with a pirouette, lock and load and good to go.  I get
> spritzes when the beans are old or the grind is off.
>
> R "no religion involved, this is science" TF

Az lawng y'all don' thank thet ther problim iz 'cuz ah ain't no gret
Tampir yit, ah ekcepts yer explinaishun. ;-)

Godzilla