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Date: 27 Mar 2007 14:04:05
From: seastl
Subject: Brew temps for your favorite blends

I am hoping that some folks could share with me their target temps for
their favorite espresso blends. I am specifically interested in MG, Vita,
and Dolce. If you have a cheat sheat for these and/or other blends, I
would appreciate it. At least it might save some coffee if I can get in
the ballpark to begin with.

Thanks -

Brad




 
Date: 28 Mar 2007 11:11:21
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
On 28, 1:11 pm, kate.ermac...@gmail.com wrote:
> I agree it sounds absurd, but I go by taste and what the Fluke says
> while brewing. This is the most difficult blend I've run through this
> machine, so much so I won't use my Synesso to brew it anymore. The
> machine I'm using is a bit steadier then the Cyncra, but even this one
> can go out of the range sometimes. I'm working on a very new machine
> now, should be even more acurate

There is a feedback loop between your brain, the coffee and the
thermometer.



 
Date: 28 Mar 2007 10:11:02
From:
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
I agree it sounds absurd, but I go by taste and what the Fluke says
while brewing. This is the most difficult blend I've run through this
machine, so much so I won't use my Synesso to brew it anymore. The
machine I'm using is a bit steadier then the Cyncra, but even this one
can go out of the range sometimes. I'm working on a very new machine
now, should be even more acurate



 
Date: 28 Mar 2007 08:11:09
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
For Dolce I like 204.9
> as a target temp, otherwise even .2 degrees difference will change the
> flavor out of the super sweet range to carbon, or the other direction
> gets a very off chemical taste.

BUSTED!! for absurdity!






 
Date: 27 Mar 2007 21:49:19
From:
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
Highly depends on how and where you measure. But to give you an idea
on my machine, I have a internal "T" TC that reads the water about 1"
before it hits the diffuser screw as it exits. For Dolce I like 204.9
as a target temp, otherwise even .2 degrees difference will change the
flavor out of the super sweet range to carbon, or the other direction
gets a very off chemical taste.
Can't really comment on the others you mention




  
Date: 28 Mar 2007 12:31:50
From: JimG
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
On 27 2007 21:49:19 -0700, jepy@mac.com wrote:

>Highly depends on how and where you measure. But to give you an idea
>on my machine, I have a internal "T" TC that reads the water about 1"
>before it hits the diffuser screw as it exits. For Dolce I like 204.9
>as a target temp, otherwise even .2 degrees difference will change the
>flavor out of the super sweet range to carbon, or the other direction
>gets a very off chemical taste.
>Can't really comment on the others you mention

I found similar results, temp wise, for the Dolce. Maybe even a
degree or two higher on my Silvia (which usually has around a 4F
offset between group sensor and Thermofilter temp reading).

I challenge that it is possible to measure these temps within 0.2F,
though. With my setup (type K sensor read by Cal 3200), I consider
even +/-1F to be a real stretch when measuring real time brew temps.

What machine, and what are you using to read the temps?

Dolce is at the very high end of brew temperatures for me.

For the dark roast I buy from a local roaster, I like around 197F-198F
(201F-202F on the group sensor).

For home roasted Moka Kadir (sorta dark) I like 199F-200F (203F to
204F on the group sensor). Similar for Monkey Blend.

IIRC, Black Cat tasted better to me when brewed a little hotter, say
201F??

Hope this helps.

Jim


  
Date: 28 Mar 2007 09:01:07
From: seastl
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
On 27 2007 21:49:19 -0700, jepy@mac.com wrote:

>Highly depends on how and where you measure. But to give you an idea
>on my machine, I have a internal "T" TC that reads the water about 1"
>before it hits the diffuser screw as it exits. For Dolce I like 204.9
>as a target temp, otherwise even .2 degrees difference will change the
>flavor out of the super sweet range to carbon, or the other direction
>gets a very off chemical taste.
>Can't really comment on the others you mention


Thanks for the reply. Are you by chance using the manufacturing hole at
the fwd spot beow the boiler for your TC?

Brad


   
Date: 28 Mar 2007 09:24:38
From: seastl
Subject: Re: Brew temps for your favorite blends
On Wed, 28 2007 09:01:07 -0500, seastl <<reserved@later.date.com >>
wrote:

>On 27 2007 21:49:19 -0700, jepy@mac.com wrote:
>
>>Highly depends on how and where you measure. But to give you an idea
>>on my machine, I have a internal "T" TC that reads the water about 1"
>>before it hits the diffuser screw as it exits. For Dolce I like 204.9
>>as a target temp, otherwise even .2 degrees difference will change the
>>flavor out of the super sweet range to carbon, or the other direction
>>gets a very off chemical taste.
>>Can't really comment on the others you mention
>
>
>Thanks for the reply. Are you by chance using the manufacturing hole at
>the fwd spot beow the boiler for your TC?

Which of course would only apply if you're using a Silvia . . .