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Date: 14 Oct 2006 08:26:42
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
I've pretty much replaced every gasket & o-ring to be found on my Bunn
ES-1A. I've tested the machine & other than tweaking the pstat &
programming a bit more I think it's ready to reassemble. I would like
to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked at Lowes
& Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate . Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

I'm still toying with powder coating the external panels. Has anyone
tried this or custom painting. If you have it'd be nice to see some
pics posted on alt.binaries.coffee. One other thing; Does anyone know
where a key could be had for the Bunn?

TIA
Robert





 
Date: 15 Oct 2006 20:04:29
From: Erik Groomer
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
I still think that the bake on ceramic metallic coatings that
hot-rodders use for their headers would work well. In the engine
compartment with 1200F temps and they are almost cool enough to touch.
And a nice soft nickel lustre chrome finish to boot. Other colors
available. What's not to like about that?

Erik


Flasherly wrote:
> Robert Harmon wrote:
> > Great idea flasher, but isn't that designed as a reflective agent, not as
> > an insulator? It probably wouldn't offer much in the way of heat retention,
> > would it?
>
> This link more along reflection, google has a ton of stuff linked to
> NASA -- provided a vacuum the insulation qualities should be there.
> Question is if materials composing the vacuum will take the fast cycle
> action from an espresso boiler. The reflective type is more likely to
> be associated with refrigeration applications. I've also read ceramic
> recommended as ideal for heat retention in espresso serving cups.
> Pulverize a cup instead of tile. Vacuum materials wrapped and easily
> removed would be ideal for how least to intrude on an original
> assembly. Save the ceramic for a rainyday. Cork sheets for making
> gaskets may be another auto store item for consideration. Heat also
> bleeds off piping unless special compression fittings are used -- I've
> seen them offered in non-O/A packages for water heater replacement in
> larger pipe fits.
>
> http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/1222/



 
Date: 15 Oct 2006 15:12:15
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.

Robert Harmon wrote:
> Great idea flasher, but isn't that designed as a reflective agent, not as
> an insulator? It probably wouldn't offer much in the way of heat retention,
> would it?

This link more along reflection, google has a ton of stuff linked to
NASA -- provided a vacuum the insulation qualities should be there.
Question is if materials composing the vacuum will take the fast cycle
action from an espresso boiler. The reflective type is more likely to
be associated with refrigeration applications. I've also read ceramic
recommended as ideal for heat retention in espresso serving cups.
Pulverize a cup instead of tile. Vacuum materials wrapped and easily
removed would be ideal for how least to intrude on an original
assembly. Save the ceramic for a rainyday. Cork sheets for making
gaskets may be another auto store item for consideration. Heat also
bleeds off piping unless special compression fittings are used -- I've
seen them offered in non-O/A packages for water heater replacement in
larger pipe fits.

http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/1222/



 
Date: 15 Oct 2006 08:38:03
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.

Robert Harmon wrote:
> I think it's ready to reassemble. I would like
> to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked at Lowes
> & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate . Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.

Find and pulverize a ceramic tile for mixing into high-temp engine
paint. Layer in multiples by brush.

http://www.ceramicadditive.com/insulating-paint-additive.html



  
Date: 15 Oct 2006 18:40:42
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
"Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote in news:1160926683.651062.323730
@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

>
> Robert Harmon wrote:
>> I think it's ready to reassemble. I would like
>> to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked at Lowes
>> & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate . Any
>> suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Find and pulverize a ceramic tile for mixing into high-temp engine
> paint. Layer in multiples by brush.
>
> http://www.ceramicadditive.com/insulating-paint-additive.html
>
>

Great idea flasher, but isn't that designed as a reflective agent, not as
an insulator? It probably wouldn't offer much in the way of heat retention,
would it?

Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 21:36:21
From: Paul Pratt
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
I do exactly that as you suggest. My only advice is to do as much prep
as as is possible because they really see these jobs as very small
indeed. Here is an Astoria Sibilla that I changed to a pearlescent
white for a wintry themed restaurant.

http://www.espresso-restorations.com/Sibilla.html

An addendum to that report is that the machine is very hard to keep
clean, not the colour but the design. It pools water on the steel
base.



Paul






Jack Denver wrote:
> I haven't tried this but I've heard others suggest that you take the panels
> to an auto body shop. If you allow them to use a color that they are
> already spraying on a car and do the prep yourself, they should give you a
> very good deal - it's very fast for them to shoot another panel once they
> are all loaded up and the result can be very good.
>
>
>
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1160839602.222155.173870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > I've pretty much replaced every gasket & o-ring to be found on my Bunn
> > ES-1A. I've tested the machine & other than tweaking the pstat &
> > programming a bit more I think it's ready to reassemble. I would like
> > to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked at Lowes
> > & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate . Any
> > suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > I'm still toying with powder coating the external panels. Has anyone
> > tried this or custom painting. If you have it'd be nice to see some
> > pics posted on alt.binaries.coffee. One other thing; Does anyone know
> > where a key could be had for the Bunn?
> >
> > TIA
> > Robert
> >



  
Date: 15 Oct 2006 05:27:53
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
That's the best Astoria I've ever seen. Good work Paul, in fact it's
GREAT work! Being such a bold design who'd of thought a subdued paint
scheme would make it so strikingly beautiful. I've only seen one of these
in person & it was Ferrari red & it was a show stopper too.

Again, great work Paul!


Robert (green with envy) Harmon
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"Paul Pratt" <paul@just-java.com > wrote in
news:1160886981.467373.150050@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I do exactly that as you suggest. My only advice is to do as much
> prep as as is possible because they really see these jobs as very
> small indeed. Here is an Astoria Sibilla that I changed to a
> pearlescent white for a wintry themed restaurant.
>
> http://www.espresso-restorations.com/Sibilla.html
>
> An addendum to that report is that the machine is very hard to keep
> clean, not the colour but the design. It pools water on the steel
> base.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jack Denver wrote:
>> I haven't tried this but I've heard others suggest that you take the
>> panels to an auto body shop. If you allow them to use a color that
>> they are already spraying on a car and do the prep yourself, they
>> should give you a very good deal - it's very fast for them to shoot
>> another panel once they are all loaded up and the result can be very
>> good.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160839602.222155.173870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > I've pretty much replaced every gasket & o-ring to be found on my
>> > Bunn ES-1A. I've tested the machine & other than tweaking the pstat
>> > & programming a bit more I think it's ready to reassemble. I would
>> > like to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked
>> > at Lowes & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate
>> > . Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > I'm still toying with powder coating the external panels. Has
>> > anyone tried this or custom painting. If you have it'd be nice to
>> > see some pics posted on alt.binaries.coffee. One other thing; Does
>> > anyone know where a key could be had for the Bunn?
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > Robert
>> >
>
>





   
Date: 15 Oct 2006 10:50:02
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
In white, it reminds me a lot of an old fashioned meat scale, the kind
butchers used to have before the digital age, the ones with a multiplication
table on a drum so the butcher could read the total price directly off the
scale. Brings back memories actually.

Compare this:

http://www.espresso-restorations.com/images/DSCN2846.JPG

to this:
http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=90152&image=9517264&images=9516989,9517261,9517264,9517265&formats=0,0,0,0&format=0


"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns985D4BC4C58ErhharmonZhotmailcom@207.217.125.201...
> That's the best Astoria I've ever seen. Good work Paul, in fact it's
> GREAT work! Being such a bold design who'd of thought a subdued paint
> scheme would make it so strikingly beautiful. I've only seen one of these
> in person & it was Ferrari red & it was a show stopper too.
>
> Again, great work Paul!
>
>
> Robert (green with envy) Harmon
> --
> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
> Remove "Z" to reply via email.
>
>
> "Paul Pratt" <paul@just-java.com> wrote in
> news:1160886981.467373.150050@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I do exactly that as you suggest. My only advice is to do as much
>> prep as as is possible because they really see these jobs as very
>> small indeed. Here is an Astoria Sibilla that I changed to a
>> pearlescent white for a wintry themed restaurant.
>>
>> http://www.espresso-restorations.com/Sibilla.html
>>
>> An addendum to that report is that the machine is very hard to keep
>> clean, not the colour but the design. It pools water on the steel
>> base.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jack Denver wrote:
>>> I haven't tried this but I've heard others suggest that you take the
>>> panels to an auto body shop. If you allow them to use a color that
>>> they are already spraying on a car and do the prep yourself, they
>>> should give you a very good deal - it's very fast for them to shoot
>>> another panel once they are all loaded up and the result can be very
>>> good.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160839602.222155.173870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> > I've pretty much replaced every gasket & o-ring to be found on my
>>> > Bunn ES-1A. I've tested the machine & other than tweaking the pstat
>>> > & programming a bit more I think it's ready to reassemble. I would
>>> > like to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked
>>> > at Lowes & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate
>>> > . Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > I'm still toying with powder coating the external panels. Has
>>> > anyone tried this or custom painting. If you have it'd be nice to
>>> > see some pics posted on alt.binaries.coffee. One other thing; Does
>>> > anyone know where a key could be had for the Bunn?
>>> >
>>> > TIA
>>> > Robert
>>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>




    
Date: 15 Oct 2006 18:37:35
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in
news:BradnSGuG6EB16_YnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com:

> In white, it reminds me a lot of an old fashioned meat scale, the
> kind butchers used to have before the digital age, the ones with a
> multiplication table on a drum so the butcher could read the total
> price directly off the scale. Brings back memories actually.
>
> Compare this:
>
> http://www.espresso-restorations.com/images/DSCN2846.JPG
>
> to this:
> http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=90152&image=9517
> 264&images=9516989,9517261,9517264,9517265&formats=0,0,0,0&format=0
>
>
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns985D4BC4C58ErhharmonZhotmailcom@207.217.125.201...
>> That's the best Astoria I've ever seen. Good work Paul, in fact it's
>> GREAT work! Being such a bold design who'd of thought a subdued paint
>> scheme would make it so strikingly beautiful. I've only seen one of
>> these in person & it was Ferrari red & it was a show stopper too.
>>
>> Again, great work Paul!
>>
>>
>> Robert (green with envy) Harmon
>> --
>> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
>> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
>> Remove "Z" to reply via email.
>>
>

Yeah it is sorta remindful of a scale, but when taken in context it's a
beaut! I'd love to have it on my counter - even if I had to fight the ol'
ball & chain for space on 'her' counters. ;)

Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
--
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 15:15:03
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:50:02 -0400, "Jack Denver"
<nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

>In white, it reminds me a lot of an old fashioned meat scale, the kind
>butchers used to have before the digital age, the ones with a multiplication
>table on a drum so the butcher could read the total price directly off the
>scale....

...while their thumb rested conveniently on the tray. ;)



     
Date: 15 Oct 2006 12:22:30
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need
Barry Jarrett wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:50:02 -0400, "Jack Denver"
> <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >In white, it reminds me a lot of an old fashioned meat scale, the kind
> >butchers used to have before the digital age, the ones with a multiplication
> >table on a drum so the butcher could read the total price directly off the
> >scale....
>
> ...while their thumb rested conveniently on the tray. ;)
>

9 oz. boning knife.

R "certified accurate" TF


 
Date: 14 Oct 2006 12:35:24
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
I haven't tried this but I've heard others suggest that you take the panels
to an auto body shop. If you allow them to use a color that they are
already spraying on a car and do the prep yourself, they should give you a
very good deal - it's very fast for them to shoot another panel once they
are all loaded up and the result can be very good.



"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1160839602.222155.173870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I've pretty much replaced every gasket & o-ring to be found on my Bunn
> ES-1A. I've tested the machine & other than tweaking the pstat &
> programming a bit more I think it's ready to reassemble. I would like
> to insulate the boiler before I button it back up. I've looked at Lowes
> & Home Depot & didn't see anything that looked appropriate . Any
> suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> I'm still toying with powder coating the external panels. Has anyone
> tried this or custom painting. If you have it'd be nice to see some
> pics posted on alt.binaries.coffee. One other thing; Does anyone know
> where a key could be had for the Bunn?
>
> TIA
> Robert
>




  
Date: 15 Oct 2006 04:01:14
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Bunn ES-1A status: insulating the boiler, powder coating, need key.
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:35:24 -0400, "Jack Denver"
<nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

>I haven't tried this but I've heard others suggest that you take the panels
>to an auto body shop. If you allow them to use a color that they are
>already spraying on a car and do the prep yourself, they should give you a
>very good deal - it's very fast for them to shoot another panel once they
>are all loaded up and the result can be very good.
>

motorcycle parts powdercoaters are also good, as they're used to doing
smaller parts to a high finish, and generally don't have minimum
charges.