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Date: 22 Nov 2006 01:12:32
From: I->Ian
Subject: Business Week Home Roast

From CG
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LHIVT80.htm




 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 08:16:51
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast

myron wrote:
> Just a general note..
> The BW article is NOT a BW article..
>
> It Associated Press material sent out to the masses..to be consumed by
> everybody around the world.. I think it gives a good picture of the
> "trend"..why we do what we do..
>
> It Google Newses in over 60 papers.

Didn't notice or know how that works, what BW is putting out that goes
gloss and what's going AP - though do monitor a steady stream of
various newswire financial press release material through business
accounts. Seems about right to me, terser for bite-sized consumables.
Finances is pretty much all I read 5 days a week for news - a real
tickertape of the stuff (ketwatch, Bloomberg, AP business/finances,
Reuters, CNN Business, TheStreet, and on and on). Routing on link in
the OP is financial.



 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 04:58:10
From: myron
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
Just a general note..
The BW article is NOT a BW article..

It Associated Press material sent out to the masses..to be consumed by
everybody around the world.. I think it gives a good picture of the
"trend"..why we do what we do..

It Google Newses in over 60 papers.

Myron


Flasherly =EB=FA=E1:
> Rogue wrote:
> > >> > Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescendi=
ng one
> > >> > but more or less factual.
> > >> For sure, among the most straightforward, unbiased, and accurate art=
icles
> > >> I've seen on this topic in the "popular press."
> >
> > I disagree completely: It presents home roasters as a bunch of
> > gadget-obsessed nut jobs. And, it really doesn't say anything of
> > substance other than the usual starbucks bash.
>
> The one part of the BW article I thought out of place, blatantly
> unobjective - SBucks 'roast everything dark into a resonating cup of
> taste' - a brandname or West Coast uniformity for darker roasts make
> more sense than any resonating crystal cup of coffee I've yet to give a
> swirl round the rim.
>
> > Much better job done by the SF Chonicle (way ahead of the popular
> > press curve, as usual) a year and a half ago:
> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=3D/c/a/2004/06/23/FDGFC78MA=
P1.DTL&hw=3Dhome+roasting+coffee&sn=3D008&sc=3D576
>
> Better take on Sweetias, especially for people that like their mud.
> Coffee brokers calling them with hot specialty lots coming in, personal
> interviews, then a breakdown on roasters and beans, etc. Undoubtedly
> more personal vrs BW's actual figures, 400Klbs annual production and a
> more cursory angle along a demographic appeal to home roasting.
>
> > Interesting that it plugs several web site references, but not one for
> > the "internet buying club" the article refers to. Why? Guess it's
> > Business Week, not Do Yourself a Favor and Take Control Yourself Week.
>
> Context...
>
> Customers will say, 'I want to make it taste like Major Dickason's,' "
> says Troy (of Sweet ia's). "Well, go buy Major Dickason's. I mean,
> why make your own beer if you like Miller?"
>
> It follows, if you want to buy the stuff and then actually drink it,
> fine, read the SFC. However, if you're looking to buy into something
> potentially lucrative, into stock ownership with shares of ia, BW is
> going to offer the article within a different context than suited to
> tasters of a region specific to its backyard.



 
Date: 22 Nov 2006 17:22:29
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
Rogue wrote:
> >> > Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescending one
> >> > but more or less factual.
> >> For sure, among the most straightforward, unbiased, and accurate articles
> >> I've seen on this topic in the "popular press."
>
> I disagree completely: It presents home roasters as a bunch of
> gadget-obsessed nut jobs. And, it really doesn't say anything of
> substance other than the usual starbucks bash.

The one part of the BW article I thought out of place, blatantly
unobjective - SBucks 'roast everything dark into a resonating cup of
taste' - a brandname or West Coast uniformity for darker roasts make
more sense than any resonating crystal cup of coffee I've yet to give a
swirl round the rim.

> Much better job done by the SF Chonicle (way ahead of the popular
> press curve, as usual) a year and a half ago:
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/06/23/FDGFC78MAP1.DTL&hw=home+roasting+coffee&sn=008&sc=576

Better take on Sweetias, especially for people that like their mud.
Coffee brokers calling them with hot specialty lots coming in, personal
interviews, then a breakdown on roasters and beans, etc. Undoubtedly
more personal vrs BW's actual figures, 400Klbs annual production and a
more cursory angle along a demographic appeal to home roasting.

> Interesting that it plugs several web site references, but not one for
> the "internet buying club" the article refers to. Why? Guess it's
> Business Week, not Do Yourself a Favor and Take Control Yourself Week.

Context...

Customers will say, 'I want to make it taste like Major Dickason's,' "
says Troy (of Sweet ia's). "Well, go buy Major Dickason's. I mean,
why make your own beer if you like Miller?"

It follows, if you want to buy the stuff and then actually drink it,
fine, read the SFC. However, if you're looking to buy into something
potentially lucrative, into stock ownership with shares of ia, BW is
going to offer the article within a different context than suited to
tasters of a region specific to its backyard.



 
Date: 22 Nov 2006 10:27:18
From: myron
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
I liked it a lot. A solid piece of writing but it had something special
about it.
Maybe it was the opening...or the feeling we all have that it is the
others who are over the edge..but our spouses know that it is us!


Ken Fox wrote:
> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:TOmdnQyhKf7LJf7YnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescending one
> > but more or less factual.
>
> For sure, among the most straightforward, unbiased, and accurate articles
> I've seen on this topic in the "popular press."
>
> Well done.
>
> ken
>
> >
> >
> > "I->Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:6v87m2lhnd4imqso05omqto5arn5og3i4l@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> From CG
> >> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LHIVT80.htm
> >
> >



  
Date: 22 Nov 2006 10:50:44
From:
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
On 22 Nov 2006 10:27:18 -0800, "myron" <myron.joshua@gmail.com > wrote:

>Ken Fox wrote:
>> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:TOmdnQyhKf7LJf7YnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescending one
>> > but more or less factual.
>>
>> For sure, among the most straightforward, unbiased, and accurate articles
>> I've seen on this topic in the "popular press."
>>
>> Well done.
>>
>> ken


I disagree completely: It presents home roasters as a bunch of
gadget-obsessed nut jobs. And, it really doesn't say anything of
substance other than the usual starbucks bash.

Much better job done by the SF Chonicle (way ahead of the popular
press curve, as usual) a year and a half ago:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/06/23/FDGFC78MAP1.DTL&hw=home+roasting+coffee&sn=008&sc=576

Interesting that it plugs several web site references, but not one for
the "internet buying club" the article refers to. Why? Guess it's
Business Week, not Do Yourself a Favor and Take Control Yourself Week.



   
Date: 22 Nov 2006 13:21:05
From: Roger Shoaf
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast

<Rogue Ja > wrote in message
news:jl69m2pccsj9aqeisa33pil68vqlrso1qm@4ax.com...
> I disagree completely: It presents home roasters as a bunch of
> gadget-obsessed nut jobs.

You say this like it's a bad thing.








And, it really doesn't say anything of
> substance other than the usual starbucks bash.

"Some guy calls in and says he roasts his own ... in an old popcorn popper,"
recalled Robbins, who at the time was getting regular deliveries of
Starbucks coffee for about $15 a pound. After a quick search on the
Internet, Robbins found green beans that could be purchased for about a
third of that price and pretty soon he was hooked.

"It was like the difference between a tomato bought in the superket and
one grown in your garden," he said.

I would suggest that your critisim is far too harsh, it is mostly about the
quality the gadgets and the quality time spent are secondary.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.





 
Date: 21 Nov 2006 21:39:17
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescending one but
more or less factual.


"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:6v87m2lhnd4imqso05omqto5arn5og3i4l@4ax.com...
>
> From CG
> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LHIVT80.htm




  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 23:22:40
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Business Week Home Roast
"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:TOmdnQyhKf7LJf7YnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Pretty well done I thought. The tone was not the usual condescending one
> but more or less factual.

For sure, among the most straightforward, unbiased, and accurate articles
I've seen on this topic in the "popular press."

Well done.

ken

>
>
> "I->Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:6v87m2lhnd4imqso05omqto5arn5og3i4l@4ax.com...
>>
>> From CG
>> http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8LHIVT80.htm
>
>