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Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:31:39
From: bernie
Subject: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it
happended (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted
to buy a business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small
operators who are the victims of embezzling employees. This time the
perp somehow forgot that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez
video of the 8hrs or so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm
having it transferred to dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High
speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too long. I'm
expecting to find it is the person least expected to do such a thing. My
hope would be a past employee who managed to get away with a key. We
could do better at monitoring keys and changing locks, I"ll admit. I've
been asked why I don't get on it and find out asap. Truth is, it breaks
my heart that one of my staff would do this to me. I've been around the
block enough times to know better, but it still bums me out.
Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.




 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 08:21:18
From: Chris Staley
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:31:39 -0700, bernie <bdigman@zianet.com > wrote:

> It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
>ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it
>happended (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted
>to buy a business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small
>operators who are the victims of embezzling employees. This time the
>perp somehow forgot that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez
>video of the 8hrs or so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm
>having it transferred to dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High
>speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too long. I'm
>expecting to find it is the person least expected to do such a thing. My
>hope would be a past employee who managed to get away with a key. We
>could do better at monitoring keys and changing locks, I"ll admit. I've
>been asked why I don't get on it and find out asap. Truth is, it breaks
>my heart that one of my staff would do this to me. I've been around the
>block enough times to know better, but it still bums me out.
>Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.


Well that totally sucks Bernie :-( How goes the search for the perp?

Chris


  
Date: 04 Dec 2006 08:50:11
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
"Chris Staley" <rcs914@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:k6f8n2tctsadencb1g7p4bscvj7qn556h1@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:31:39 -0700, bernie <bdigman@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>> It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
>>ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it
>>happended (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted
>>to buy a business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small
>>operators who are the victims of embezzling employees. This time the
>>perp somehow forgot that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez
>>video of the 8hrs or so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm
>>having it transferred to dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High
>>speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too long. I'm
>>expecting to find it is the person least expected to do such a thing. My
>>hope would be a past employee who managed to get away with a key. We
>>could do better at monitoring keys and changing locks, I"ll admit. I've
>>been asked why I don't get on it and find out asap. Truth is, it breaks
>>my heart that one of my staff would do this to me. I've been around the
>>block enough times to know better, but it still bums me out.
>>Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.
>
>
> Well that totally sucks Bernie :-( How goes the search for the perp?
>
> Chris

I think all of this stems from Bernie's earlier decision to present a
"kindler, gentler" Bernie, after criticism in this ng about his employee pay
scale. When he discontinued using genital shock electrodes on his
mistreated staff, all hell broke loose.

ken
;-)




 
Date: 01 Dec 2006 03:14:07
From: The Other Funk
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
Finding the keyboard operational
bernie entered:

> It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
> ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it
> happended (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted
> to buy a business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small
> operators who are the victims of embezzling employees. This time the
> perp somehow forgot that I put a camera system up and so have a high
> rez video of the 8hrs or so in which the event purportedly took
> place. I'm having it transferred to dvd tomorrow to make viewing much
> easier. High speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too
> long. I'm expecting to find it is the person least expected to do
> such a thing. My hope would be a past employee who managed to get
> away with a key. We could do better at monitoring keys and changing
> locks, I"ll admit. I've been asked why I don't get on it and find out
> asap. Truth is, it breaks my heart that one of my staff would do this
> to me. I've been around the block enough times to know better, but it
> still bums me out. Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one
> need to steal?) D.

Been there, done that, got the forms filled out in triplicate. Only it was
product in my case. Caught one, another one quit right after. We tightened
up inventory controls which sometimes is a pain in the butt. but the
shrinkage has slowed down.
What realy gets me is that I feel like I have been violated in my own home.
I really try to treat all my employees as I wanted to be treated when I
worked for some one else.
Good luck with the video, hope you find out who is the thieving bastard.
And I really hope that you can prosecute.
Bob

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Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
www.moondoggiecoffee.com



 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 15:14:47
From: Heat + Beans
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
Jack Denver wrote:
> As social welfare programs expanded greatly in
> the post WWII period, so did crime, right in step.

Solid proof for the relevance (and logic) of this point is in the fact
that Bernie's shop was not robbed during the Great Depression or the
Good War

Ah, the good ol' days.
tin



 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 10:53:11
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
My God, Jack. Did you pay your membership in the John Birch Society
this year?

Come do a little pro bono work with me in the center city and your
harsh attitudes will change a bit.



Jack Denver wrote:
> Employee theft is a major problem for business. Low wage employees see
> themselves as underpaid and underappreciated and thus "entitled" to steal.
> Plus lots of people have substance abuse habits that require a lot of cash
> to feed. This is one thing that puts immigrant groups with large extended
> families at a big advantage in small business - you are less likely to
> steal from your own family and the consequences of being caught would be
> even greater than those in the legal system - dishonor, etc. For you,
> counter measures are the way to go. Cameras are a start, but you really
> shouldn't have that much cash accessible even in a locked area. Get a drop
> safe that only you (or whomever goes to the bank) has the combination for.
> Every time there is more cash accumulated than is needed to make change, it
> gets dropped into the slot and only you can get it back out. This also helps
> guard against hold-ups.
>
> http://www.moneysafes.com/
>
>
>
> Be glad that it was only money - it could have been worse. Good luck finding
> the perp - as you say, it is sure to be heartbreaking, but not as
> heartbreaking as NOT being able to find him or her. Be sure to press charges
> as much as possible - going easy is no favor to the criminal. As for the
> line about government programs, you have it exactly backwards - such
> programs make people MORE likely to steal by breaking down family and social
> bonds in favor of a check that shows up in the mailbox no matter how
> anti-social your behavior is. As social welfare programs expanded greatly in
> the post WWII period, so did crime, right in step. Crime in America is not
> like some Victor Hugo novel where you steal a loaf of bread because your
> children are starving.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "bernie" <bdigman@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:456f157b$1@nntp.zianet.com...
> > It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
> > ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it happended
> > (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted to buy a
> > business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small operators who are
> > the victims of embezzling employees. This time the perp somehow forgot
> > that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez video of the 8hrs or
> > so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm having it transferred to
> > dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High speed jogs of three cameras
> > is a bear to watch for too long. I'm expecting to find it is the person
> > least expected to do such a thing. My hope would be a past employee who
> > managed to get away with a key. We could do better at monitoring keys and
> > changing locks, I"ll admit. I've been asked why I don't get on it and find
> > out asap. Truth is, it breaks my heart that one of my staff would do this
> > to me. I've been around the block enough times to know better, but it
> > still bums me out.
> > Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.



  
Date: 30 Nov 2006 14:20:57
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
No thanks - I just found out that the spouse of a client of mine was beaten
unconscious and had his jaw broken. He chose to work for low pay as a
teacher in an inner city Philadelphia high school and this was how he was
"repaid" for his good deeds.




<Omniryx@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1164912791.253042.292310@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Come do a little pro bono work with me in the center city and your
> harsh attitudes will change a bit.
>
>




  
Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:17:22
From: North Sullivan
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On 30 Nov 2006 10:53:11 -0800, "Omniryx@gmail.com" <Omniryx@gmail.com >
wrote:

>My God, Jack. Did you pay your membership in the John Birch Society
>this year?
>
>Come do a little pro bono work with me in the center city and your
>harsh attitudes will change a bit.

There's nothing harsh about Jack's attitudes. I've been in Bernie's
shoes regarding employee theft, and I've taken steps to minimize the
size of the pot of gold and the opportunity. I've also seen the way
certain employees passing through the shop have learned to milk
government programs to maximize income/limit employment.

Some of the rich are also very good at manipulating the rules/stealing
in order to maximize income/limit work. But it does no good to walk
around with blinders on pretending that it isn't happening at both
ends, and in the middle.

Breaking people down with conservative and liberal labels really
doesn't change much, does it?

North Sullivan
(from John Birch country, but not a John Bircher)


   
Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:57:32
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On 2006-11-30, North Sullivan <northwrites@bluebottle.com > wrote:

> Breaking people down with conservative and liberal labels really
> doesn't change much, does it?

It keeps the sheep occupied while the money changes hands.

nb


    
Date: 30 Nov 2006 20:31:03
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:57:32 -0600, notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:

>On 2006-11-30, North Sullivan <northwrites@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>
>> Breaking people down with conservative and liberal labels really
>> doesn't change much, does it?
>
>It keeps the sheep occupied while the money changes hands.
>
>nb

Politics as Entertainment? Nah, couldn't be...


 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:46:39
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:31:39 -0700, bernie <bdigman@zianet.com > wrote:

>High
>speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too long.

The technology is available to only record the changes in the image,
which can compress hours down to minutes.


 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 13:11:31
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
Employee theft is a major problem for business. Low wage employees see
themselves as underpaid and underappreciated and thus "entitled" to steal.
Plus lots of people have substance abuse habits that require a lot of cash
to feed. This is one thing that puts immigrant groups with large extended
families at a big advantage in small business - you are less likely to
steal from your own family and the consequences of being caught would be
even greater than those in the legal system - dishonor, etc. For you,
counter measures are the way to go. Cameras are a start, but you really
shouldn't have that much cash accessible even in a locked area. Get a drop
safe that only you (or whomever goes to the bank) has the combination for.
Every time there is more cash accumulated than is needed to make change, it
gets dropped into the slot and only you can get it back out. This also helps
guard against hold-ups.

http://www.moneysafes.com/



Be glad that it was only money - it could have been worse. Good luck finding
the perp - as you say, it is sure to be heartbreaking, but not as
heartbreaking as NOT being able to find him or her. Be sure to press charges
as much as possible - going easy is no favor to the criminal. As for the
line about government programs, you have it exactly backwards - such
programs make people MORE likely to steal by breaking down family and social
bonds in favor of a check that shows up in the mailbox no matter how
anti-social your behavior is. As social welfare programs expanded greatly in
the post WWII period, so did crime, right in step. Crime in America is not
like some Victor Hugo novel where you steal a loaf of bread because your
children are starving.








"bernie" <bdigman@zianet.com > wrote in message
news:456f157b$1@nntp.zianet.com...
> It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
> ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it happended
> (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted to buy a
> business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small operators who are
> the victims of embezzling employees. This time the perp somehow forgot
> that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez video of the 8hrs or
> so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm having it transferred to
> dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High speed jogs of three cameras
> is a bear to watch for too long. I'm expecting to find it is the person
> least expected to do such a thing. My hope would be a past employee who
> managed to get away with a key. We could do better at monitoring keys and
> changing locks, I"ll admit. I've been asked why I don't get on it and find
> out asap. Truth is, it breaks my heart that one of my staff would do this
> to me. I've been around the block enough times to know better, but it
> still bums me out.
> Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.




  
Date: 30 Nov 2006 19:22:36
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:11:31 -0500, "Jack Denver"
<nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

>Employee theft is a major problem for business. Low wage employees see
>themselves as underpaid and underappreciated and thus "entitled" to steal.

Which sets them completely apart from the high salary (plus bonus,
expense account and stock option) employees who see themselves as
underpaid and thus "entitled" to steal.

shall


 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 18:05:04
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse/Roastery/Cart bidness for sale..Cheap
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:31:39 -0700, bernie <bdigman@zianet.com > wrote:

> It's just a rant. For the second time this year someone inside has
>ripped us off of about $1500 in cash. As I was describing how it
>happended (or at least I think) I was asking the police if they wanted
>to buy a business cheap. Funny, they hear that a lot from small
>operators who are the victims of embezzling employees. This time the
>perp somehow forgot that I put a camera system up and so have a high rez
>video of the 8hrs or so in which the event purportedly took place. I'm
>having it transferred to dvd tomorrow to make viewing much easier. High
>speed jogs of three cameras is a bear to watch for too long. I'm
>expecting to find it is the person least expected to do such a thing. My
>hope would be a past employee who managed to get away with a key. We
>could do better at monitoring keys and changing locks, I"ll admit. I've
>been asked why I don't get on it and find out asap. Truth is, it breaks
>my heart that one of my staff would do this to me. I've been around the
>block enough times to know better, but it still bums me out.
>Bernie (with all the guvmint programs why would one need to steal?) D.

It's usually the employee you trust the most. They get the best
opportunities.

shall