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Date: 03 Jan 2007 18:33:07
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Defining the 1 oz shot
Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks






 
Date: 05 Jan 2007 16:19:10
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Defining the 1 oz shot
I use Black Cat and Vivace Dolce mostly and, in both cases, my shots
are probably 70-80% crema when first poured, maybe more. So I just go
for 1.5 - 2.0 oz TOTAL and then end up with a bit over an oz after it
settles out. As Randy said, if you keep pouring until you have your
target volume EXCLUSIVE of crema, you're gonna have a monster big shot
to contend with. And it'll likely suck.

-Ray

On Jan 5, 6:09 pm, "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net > wrote:
> You misunderstand what I am saying. I mean that the shot incl crema would
> exceed the 1 oz in 25 secs depending on the amount of crema.
>
> Also when would be the best time to stop the shot ? Is it just before the
> crema becomes pale in color? Tks
>
> "GeeDubb" <geed...@qwest.net> wrote in messagenews:459ec669$0$10596$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com...
>
>
>
> > "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >news:5_idncZwrefTXAPYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>I am using " freshly roasted "beans from local micro roaster . Does this
> >>mean that I adjust the grind till I get a liquid plus crema over the 1 oz
> >>k in 25 secs so that when the crema settles , I end up with 1 oz of the
> >>coffee minus the crema layer on the top ? Tks
>
> > Why would you give the crema time to collapse? Usually I shoot for 1-1.5
> > oz of fluid with the crema being extra. I never let it sit long enough to
> > let the crema settle. Also, crema levels vary with Malabar Gold having
> > the most crema (IME), usually equalling the liquid volume while some
> > coffees have little crema (usually indicating old roast).
>
> > With that being said, do what tastes best for you. If a 2 oz of liquid
> > shot tastes better than a 1 oz shot then shoot for the better tasting
> > volume.
>
> > Gary (my tastes are not yours or anybody elses)
>
> >> "Randy G." <f...@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1e6pp2pgrlianljj5u3drpddournk2ojr9@4ax.com...
> >>> "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOS...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks
>
> >>> One ounce total... +/-
> >>> With fresh beans in a properly pulled shot, if you waited until you
> >>> have one ounce of liquid below the crema, you could end up with a
> >>> three ounce single.. or more.
>
> >>> Randy "I'll have another bucket of espresso" G.
> >>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com



 
Date: 03 Jan 2007 22:09:51
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Defining the 1 oz shot
"Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net > wrote:

>Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks
>
One ounce total... +/-
With fresh beans in a properly pulled shot, if you waited until you
have one ounce of liquid below the crema, you could end up with a
three ounce single.. or more.


Randy "I'll have another bucket of espresso" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 05 Jan 2007 13:21:14
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: Defining the 1 oz shot
I am using " freshly roasted "beans from local micro roaster . Does this
mean that I adjust the grind till I get a liquid plus crema over the 1 oz
k in 25 secs so that when the crema settles , I end up with 1 oz of the
coffee minus the crema layer on the top ? Tks

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:1e6pp2pgrlianljj5u3drpddournk2ojr9@4ax.com...
> "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>>Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks
>>
> One ounce total... +/-
> With fresh beans in a properly pulled shot, if you waited until you
> have one ounce of liquid below the crema, you could end up with a
> three ounce single.. or more.
>
>
> Randy "I'll have another bucket of espresso" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>




   
Date: 05 Jan 2007 14:43:13
From: GeeDubb
Subject: Re: Defining the 1 oz shot

"Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net > wrote in message
news:5_idncZwrefTXAPYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I am using " freshly roasted "beans from local micro roaster . Does this
>mean that I adjust the grind till I get a liquid plus crema over the 1 oz
>k in 25 secs so that when the crema settles , I end up with 1 oz of the
>coffee minus the crema layer on the top ? Tks

Why would you give the crema time to collapse? Usually I shoot for 1-1.5 oz
of fluid with the crema being extra. I never let it sit long enough to let
the crema settle. Also, crema levels vary with Malabar Gold having the most
crema (IME), usually equalling the liquid volume while some coffees have
little crema (usually indicating old roast).

With that being said, do what tastes best for you. If a 2 oz of liquid shot
tastes better than a 1 oz shot then shoot for the better tasting volume.

Gary (my tastes are not yours or anybody elses)

>
> "Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
> news:1e6pp2pgrlianljj5u3drpddournk2ojr9@4ax.com...
>> "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks
>>>
>> One ounce total... +/-
>> With fresh beans in a properly pulled shot, if you waited until you
>> have one ounce of liquid below the crema, you could end up with a
>> three ounce single.. or more.
>>
>>
>> Randy "I'll have another bucket of espresso" G.
>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>>
>>
>
>



    
Date: 05 Jan 2007 15:09:49
From: Sportflyer
Subject: Re: Defining the 1 oz shot
You misunderstand what I am saying. I mean that the shot incl crema would
exceed the 1 oz in 25 secs depending on the amount of crema.

Also when would be the best time to stop the shot ? Is it just before the
crema becomes pale in color? Tks

"GeeDubb" <geedubb@qwest.net > wrote in message
news:459ec669$0$10596$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com...
>
> "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:5_idncZwrefTXAPYnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I am using " freshly roasted "beans from local micro roaster . Does this
>>mean that I adjust the grind till I get a liquid plus crema over the 1 oz
>>k in 25 secs so that when the crema settles , I end up with 1 oz of the
>>coffee minus the crema layer on the top ? Tks
>
> Why would you give the crema time to collapse? Usually I shoot for 1-1.5
> oz of fluid with the crema being extra. I never let it sit long enough to
> let the crema settle. Also, crema levels vary with Malabar Gold having
> the most crema (IME), usually equalling the liquid volume while some
> coffees have little crema (usually indicating old roast).
>
> With that being said, do what tastes best for you. If a 2 oz of liquid
> shot tastes better than a 1 oz shot then shoot for the better tasting
> volume.
>
> Gary (my tastes are not yours or anybody elses)
>
>>
>> "Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:1e6pp2pgrlianljj5u3drpddournk2ojr9@4ax.com...
>>> "Sportflyer" <mode1flyerNOSPAM@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does the 1 oz shot include the crema or is it the coffee only. Tks
>>>>
>>> One ounce total... +/-
>>> With fresh beans in a properly pulled shot, if you waited until you
>>> have one ounce of liquid below the crema, you could end up with a
>>> three ounce single.. or more.
>>>
>>>
>>> Randy "I'll have another bucket of espresso" G.
>>> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>