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Date: 06 Sep 2006 18:51:49
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Drip maker?
Ok, it sounds like I'm looking for a 4-cup drip maker then, with a glass
carafe and that uses paper filters, not permanent ones.

Can someone recommend a well-rated one for me please, for under $50? Like
something that has good ratings at amazon.com or somewhere?

Thanks!

--
- Mama Bear




 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 20:31:36
From: Erik Groomer
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Randy, I might mention that there are several broken links on the
brewing methods page.



  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:26:18
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Erik Groomer" <ViridianCoffee@gmail.com > wrote:

>Randy, I might mention that there are several broken links on the
>brewing methods page.

Thanks! I have replaced that with a Froogle search link for the pour
over cones. It is hard to keep up with all that! I will have to do
another Xenu search tomorrow and check for bad links.. Thanks again.


Randy "one bad chain spoils the link" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com





 
Date: 07 Sep 2006 01:39:45
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Hey Mama!
May I suggest that you check out the vacuum coffee makers on eBay. They are
a passion of mine; they are generally considered to make the best cup of
brewed coffee. I prefer the vintage Silex models but there are many to
choose from. Look for one with a Silex brand glass filter rod, it'll have a
spring to keep it in place during the brew cycle. I'm not kidding, there is
no better way to brew coffee than with a vac pot!
--
Robert (Nature abhors a vacuum, fill it with coffee!) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836B5BC8402Mama@216.196.97.142...
> Ok, it sounds like I'm looking for a 4-cup drip maker then, with a glass
> carafe and that uses paper filters, not permanent ones.
>
> Can someone recommend a well-rated one for me please, for under $50? Like
> something that has good ratings at amazon.com or somewhere?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:27:05
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> Hey Mama!
> May I suggest that you check out the vacuum coffee makers on eBay.
> They are a passion of mine; they are generally considered to make the
> best cup of brewed coffee. I prefer the vintage Silex models but
> there are many to choose from. Look for one with a Silex brand glass
> filter rod, it'll have a spring to keep it in place during the brew
> cycle. I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
> with a vac pot!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3202&item=
160002044865


--
- Mama Bear


   
Date: 07 Sep 2006 03:47:00
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
That looks like a good one. Here's the search I use:
http://tinyurl.com/e8z4f

And, here's a link to my favorite - the one I use when company is here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~r_harmon/Silex/SilexLido.jpg
--
Robert ( Hey, hey, mama, said the way you move, gonna make you sweat, gonna
make you groove.) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r


"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836D00F54290Mama@216.196.97.142...
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote :
>
>> Hey Mama!
>> May I suggest that you check out the vacuum coffee makers on eBay.
>> They are a passion of mine; they are generally considered to make the
>> best cup of brewed coffee. I prefer the vintage Silex models but
>> there are many to choose from. Look for one with a Silex brand glass
>> filter rod, it'll have a spring to keep it in place during the brew
>> cycle. I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
>> with a vac pot!
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3202&item=
> 160002044865
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




    
Date: 07 Sep 2006 00:33:04
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> That looks like a good one. Here's the search I use:
> http://tinyurl.com/e8z4f
>
> And, here's a link to my favorite - the one I use when company is here:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~r_harmon/Silex/SilexLido.jpg

Ooooooh! And the heater still works? Wow.



--
- Mama Bear


     
Date: 07 Sep 2006 07:00:44
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
The heaters almost always work. You just have to watch out for chips & deep
scratches. Here's a look at some of my Silex & moka pot collection. If
you're curious here's a link to Brian Harris' vacuum coffee pot collection:
http://www.baharris.org/coffee/Collection.htm
--
Robert
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
http://tinyurl.com/mlsj9

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:<Xns9836EF976EC5CMama@216.196.97.142 >...
> Ooooooh! And the heater still works? Wow.
>
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




      
Date: 07 Sep 2006 13:53:21
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> The heaters almost always work. You just have to watch out for chips
> & deep scratches. Here's a look at some of my Silex & moka pot
> collection. If you're curious here's a link to Brian Harris' vacuum
> coffee pot collection: http://www.baharris.org/coffee/Collection.htm
> --
> Robert
> http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
> http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
> http://tinyurl.com/mlsj9
>
>

Very cool! :)




--
- Mama Bear


  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:24:20
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> Hey Mama!
> May I suggest that you check out the vacuum coffee makers on eBay.
> They are a passion of mine; they are generally considered to make the
> best cup of brewed coffee. I prefer the vintage Silex models but
> there are many to choose from. Look for one with a Silex brand glass
> filter rod, it'll have a spring to keep it in place during the brew
> cycle. I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
> with a vac pot!

Looks like they cost a lot though, like $150 up?



--
- Mama Bear


   
Date: 07 Sep 2006 09:55:21
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
In <Xns9836CF97DF5B2Mama@216.196.97.142 >, on Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:24:20
-0500, Mama Bear wrote:
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote :
>
>> I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
>> with a vac pot!
>
> Looks like they cost a lot though, like $150 up?

The Bodum Santos is generally $45 or less.
Here... I found it for $34.88:
http://www.istshoppe.com/k1208-01us.html


    
Date: 07 Sep 2006 13:54:22
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com > wrote :

> In <Xns9836CF97DF5B2Mama@216.196.97.142>, on Wed, 06 Sep 2006 21:24:20
> -0500, Mama Bear wrote:
>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote :
>>
>>> I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
>>> with a vac pot!
>>
>> Looks like they cost a lot though, like $150 up?
>
> The Bodum Santos is generally $45 or less.
> Here... I found it for $34.88:
> http://www.istshoppe.com/k1208-01us.html
>

I was looking at some of the electric units at amazon.com but they're all
out of stock.



--
- Mama Bear


     
Date: 07 Sep 2006 13:57:13
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote :

> Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote :
>
>> In <Xns9836CF97DF5B2Mama@216.196.97.142>, on Wed, 06 Sep 2006
>> 21:24:20 -0500, Mama Bear wrote:
>>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote :
>>>
>>>> I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
>>>> with a vac pot!
>>>
>>> Looks like they cost a lot though, like $150 up?
>>
>> The Bodum Santos is generally $45 or less.
>> Here... I found it for $34.88:
>> http://www.istshoppe.com/k1208-01us.html
>>
>
> I was looking at some of the electric units at amazon.com but they're
> all out of stock.

By the way, with these vacuum makers, what do they use for filters? I
saw one review that said that the one in question used a nylon filter
that tears after awhile.

Can you use paper filters in them?



--
- Mama Bear


      
Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:13:03
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
In <Xns983783C57B91CMama@216.196.97.142 >, on Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:57:13
-0500, Mama Bear wrote:
> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote :
>
>> Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote :

>>> The Bodum Santos is generally $45 or less.
>>> Here... I found it for $34.88:
>>> http://www.istshoppe.com/k1208-01us.html
>>>
>>
>> I was looking at some of the electric units at amazon.com but they're
>> all out of stock.

If you're looking for "inexpensive" why look at the
electric models?

> By the way, with these vacuum makers, what do they use for filters? I
> saw one review that said that the one in question used a nylon filter
> that tears after awhile.
>
> Can you use paper filters in them?

The Bodum Santos uses a plastic disk with very fine
grooves in it. Results in a very clean cup on a par
with paper.



       
Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:15:59
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com > wrote :

> In <Xns983783C57B91CMama@216.196.97.142>, on Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:57:13
> -0500, Mama Bear wrote:
>> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote :
>>
>>> Steve Ackman <steve@SNIP-THIS.twoloonscoffee.com> wrote :
>
>>>> The Bodum Santos is generally $45 or less.
>>>> Here... I found it for $34.88:
>>>> http://www.istshoppe.com/k1208-01us.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was looking at some of the electric units at amazon.com but
they're
>>> all out of stock.
>
> If you're looking for "inexpensive" why look at the
> electric models?

Because it makes no big difference in price. I can find drip makers for
as little as $10 on Ebay.

>> By the way, with these vacuum makers, what do they use for filters? I
>> saw one review that said that the one in question used a nylon filter
>> that tears after awhile.
>>
>> Can you use paper filters in them?
>
> The Bodum Santos uses a plastic disk with very fine
> grooves in it. Results in a very clean cup on a par
> with paper.







--
- Mama Bear


      
Date: 07 Sep 2006 20:04:20
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Hey Mama, don't let yourself get caught up in 'analysis paralysis'.
Everything you've discussed will work fine (except for the percolator -
ugh!)

One of the great things about the vintage units is the glass rod filtering
system. Another feature is the small hot plate for the Silex - they work
great & are impressive if used to make coffee for guests at the table.

I did have a Black & Decker VB100 vac pot (the top rated brewer of America's
Test Kitchen) with a nylon mesh filter. I suppose one *could* damage it but
it looked like it was built for the long haul (good thing, B&D stopped
making them shortly after ATK raved about them). I sold it on eBay after
using it for several months. It had a footprint double that of the Silex,
there was no way to adjust the infusion time, it was pretty much impossible
to remove the filter without making a mess, it was made of plastic & I don't
care what anybody says to the contrary, I can taste plastic when coffee is
brewed in it (plus I'm concerned about chemicals leeching into the coffee).

The Bodum tipped-top electric just looks odd to me - if I owned one I'd use
it, but then I'd have to hide it from my sight all other times.

There are current models of vac pots made of glass & I'd suggest one of them
if you're hesitant about getting a vintage model. Here's a link to Sweet
ia's reviews & fact sheets for three:
http://www.sweetias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtml.

And if you have people over for coffee that you're trying to impress, there
are the Royal Coffeemakers: http://www.royalcoffeemaker.com/.
--
Robert (vacuum advocate) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r


"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns983783C57B91CMama@216.196.97.142...
>>
>> I was looking at some of the electric units at amazon.com but they're
>> all out of stock.
>
> By the way, with these vacuum makers, what do they use for filters? I
> saw one review that said that the one in question used a nylon filter
> that tears after awhile.
>
> Can you use paper filters in them?
>
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




       
Date: 07 Sep 2006 15:41:42
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> Hey Mama, don't let yourself get caught up in 'analysis paralysis'.
> Everything you've discussed will work fine (except for the percolator
> - ugh!)
>
> One of the great things about the vintage units is the glass rod
> filtering system. Another feature is the small hot plate for the
> Silex - they work great & are impressive if used to make coffee for
> guests at the table.
>
> I did have a Black & Decker VB100 vac pot (the top rated brewer of
> America's Test Kitchen) with a nylon mesh filter. I suppose one
> *could* damage it but it looked like it was built for the long haul
> (good thing, B&D stopped making them shortly after ATK raved about
> them). I sold it on eBay after using it for several months. It had a
> footprint double that of the Silex, there was no way to adjust the
> infusion time, it was pretty much impossible to remove the filter
> without making a mess, it was made of plastic & I don't care what
> anybody says to the contrary, I can taste plastic when coffee is
> brewed in it (plus I'm concerned about chemicals leeching into the
> coffee).
>
> The Bodum tipped-top electric just looks odd to me - if I owned one
> I'd use it, but then I'd have to hide it from my sight all other
> times.
>
> There are current models of vac pots made of glass & I'd suggest one
> of them if you're hesitant about getting a vintage model. Here's a
> link to Sweet ia's reviews & fact sheets for three:
> http://www.sweetias.com/prod.brewers.vacuum.shtml.
>
> And if you have people over for coffee that you're trying to impress,
> there are the Royal Coffeemakers: http://www.royalcoffeemaker.com/.


OMG! LOL!


--
- Mama Bear


       
Date: 07 Sep 2006 15:36:34
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote :

> Hey Mama, don't let yourself get caught up in 'analysis paralysis'.
> Everything you've discussed will work fine (except for the percolator
> - ugh!)
>
> One of the great things about the vintage units is the glass rod
> filtering system.

How's that work?

> Another feature is the small hot plate for the
> Silex - they work great & are impressive if used to make coffee for
> guests at the table.

Sounds cool.



--
- Mama Bear


   
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:28:14
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
The last Cory vac pots I have bid on have gone for $25 to $35 plus shipping.

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836CF97DF5B2Mama@216.196.97.142...
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote :
>
>> Hey Mama!
>> May I suggest that you check out the vacuum coffee makers on eBay.
>> They are a passion of mine; they are generally considered to make the
>> best cup of brewed coffee. I prefer the vintage Silex models but
>> there are many to choose from. Look for one with a Silex brand glass
>> filter rod, it'll have a spring to keep it in place during the brew
>> cycle. I'm not kidding, there is no better way to brew coffee than
>> with a vac pot!
>
> Looks like they cost a lot though, like $150 up?
>
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




    
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:48:57
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote :

> The last Cory vac pots I have bid on have gone for $25 to $35 plus
> shipping.

I'm looking into them on the web, but I only make 2 cups a day for myself,
and it looks like the minimum you have to make with them is 3?



--
- Mama Bear


 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 20:23:16
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
I don't think any of the 4-cup drip machines are noted for wonderful coffee.
I have a Mr. Coffee 4-cup that I keep in our travel trailer for coffee at
the lake. With fresh ground/fresh roasted coffee, the results are
satisfactory. Krups makes a nice 4-cup machine, too. Heat is the problem
with these inexpensive machines; they just don't brew hot enough in
comparison with some of the full-size coffeemakers. But they are not a huge
investment [$29.95] and take up little space. I had one in my office before
I retired [along with a grinder and air-tight coffee canister]. The whole
setup with a couple of cups took up less counter space than a magazine.

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836B5BC8402Mama@216.196.97.142...
> Ok, it sounds like I'm looking for a 4-cup drip maker then, with a glass
> carafe and that uses paper filters, not permanent ones.
>
> Can someone recommend a well-rated one for me please, for under $50? Like
> something that has good ratings at amazon.com or somewhere?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:23:39
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote :

> I don't think any of the 4-cup drip machines are noted for wonderful
> coffee. I have a Mr. Coffee 4-cup that I keep in our travel trailer
> for coffee at the lake. With fresh ground/fresh roasted coffee, the
> results are satisfactory. Krups makes a nice 4-cup machine, too.
> Heat is the problem with these inexpensive machines; they just don't
> brew hot enough in comparison with some of the full-size
> coffeemakers. But they are not a huge investment [$29.95] and take
> up little space. I had one in my office before I retired [along with
> a grinder and air-tight coffee canister]. The whole setup with a
> couple of cups took up less counter space than a magazine.
>

I'm confused. Don't brew hot enough? The water is boiling, isn't it?

How is the drip water in a larger machine any hotter than boiling?


--
- Mama Bear


   
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:26:27
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Water doesn't boil in a drip machine. Depending upon the brand, the water
is heated to 180 to 208 degrees. Boiled coffee would present a whole
different taste [like turkish coffee].

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836CF7A1C3AAMama@216.196.97.142...
> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote :
>
>> I don't think any of the 4-cup drip machines are noted for wonderful
>> coffee. I have a Mr. Coffee 4-cup that I keep in our travel trailer
>> for coffee at the lake. With fresh ground/fresh roasted coffee, the
>> results are satisfactory. Krups makes a nice 4-cup machine, too.
>> Heat is the problem with these inexpensive machines; they just don't
>> brew hot enough in comparison with some of the full-size
>> coffeemakers. But they are not a huge investment [$29.95] and take
>> up little space. I had one in my office before I retired [along with
>> a grinder and air-tight coffee canister]. The whole setup with a
>> couple of cups took up less counter space than a magazine.
>>
>
> I'm confused. Don't brew hot enough? The water is boiling, isn't it?
>
> How is the drip water in a larger machine any hotter than boiling?
>
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




    
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:36:55
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote :

> Water doesn't boil in a drip machine. Depending upon the brand, the
> water is heated to 180 to 208 degrees. Boiled coffee would present a
> whole different taste [like turkish coffee].

You're talking about boiled water first, and boiled coffee later, I'm
confused.

Anyway, I think I understand. The water doesn't boil, it just heats and
bubbles out the top over the coffee.

So even if I just want to make 2 cups of coffee at a time, you guys are
saying that the flavor will be better if I use an 8 cup machine.

--
- Mama Bear


     
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:57:25
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Do some of your friends make coffee that you like? Find out how they make
it. Personally, if I want just one or two cups of coffee quickly, I use a
French Press. Heat the water in the microwave, pour it over the coffee,
wait three minutes, plunge, pour, and enjoy. I have a one-cup and a two-cup
French Press that I use a couple of times a week. I got one at a garage
sale for $2 and the other one new for less than $10. Very simple process
and easy clean-up. No disposable filters. Just rinse.

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836D1BA2C60EMama@216.196.97.142...
> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote :
>
>> Water doesn't boil in a drip machine. Depending upon the brand, the
>> water is heated to 180 to 208 degrees. Boiled coffee would present a
>> whole different taste [like turkish coffee].
>
> You're talking about boiled water first, and boiled coffee later, I'm
> confused.
>
> Anyway, I think I understand. The water doesn't boil, it just heats and
> bubbles out the top over the coffee.
>
> So even if I just want to make 2 cups of coffee at a time, you guys are
> saying that the flavor will be better if I use an 8 cup machine.
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




      
Date: 06 Sep 2006 22:37:25
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote :

> Do some of your friends make coffee that you like? Find out how they
> make it. Personally, if I want just one or two cups of coffee
> quickly, I use a French Press. Heat the water in the microwave, pour
> it over the coffee, wait three minutes, plunge, pour, and enjoy.

I've got a Starbucks stailness french press, but don't use it a whole
lot because it's a pain to clean.

The coffee is rather strong from it, with all that silt and everything.

I make nice toddy with it every so often though. Very smooth.

> I
> have a one-cup and a two-cup French Press that I use a couple of
> times a week. I got one at a garage sale for $2 and the other one
> new for less than $10. Very simple process and easy clean-up. No
> disposable filters. Just rinse.

Yeah but where? Do you wash the grounds down the garbage disposal? It
seems to make a mucked up mess of my sink.

I was adding a pot full of cold water to the grounds and pouring it all
out on my garden plants. The honeysuckle and roses seem to like it.


--
- Mama Bear


     
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:49:31
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
My Krups drip machine has setting for 1-3 cups or for the full 12 cups. I
imagine that many machines have similar controls. And yes, the water is
heated before it touches the coffee -- not like a percolator where the
actual coffee is boiled. The big selling point of the Technivorm is heat
right below the boiling point. [The Technivorm is often described as the
ultimate drip machine. It is expensive.] My machine usually tests out at
190-194 degrees, which satisfies me. Others like a hotter machine.

"Mama Bear" <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote in message
news:Xns9836D1BA2C60EMama@216.196.97.142...
> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote :
>
>> Water doesn't boil in a drip machine. Depending upon the brand, the
>> water is heated to 180 to 208 degrees. Boiled coffee would present a
>> whole different taste [like turkish coffee].
>
> You're talking about boiled water first, and boiled coffee later, I'm
> confused.
>
> Anyway, I think I understand. The water doesn't boil, it just heats and
> bubbles out the top over the coffee.
>
> So even if I just want to make 2 cups of coffee at a time, you guys are
> saying that the flavor will be better if I use an 8 cup machine.
>
> --
> - Mama Bear




      
Date: 06 Sep 2006 22:34:17
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote :

> My Krups drip machine has setting for 1-3 cups or for the full 12
> cups. I imagine that many machines have similar controls. And yes,
> the water is heated before it touches the coffee -- not like a
> percolator where the actual coffee is boiled. The big selling point
> of the Technivorm is heat right below the boiling point. [The
> Technivorm is often described as the ultimate drip machine. It is
> expensive.] My machine usually tests out at 190-194 degrees, which
> satisfies me. Others like a hotter machine.
>

Looks like some of the Technivorm machines come with a built-in grinder
and some don't, but I can't find prices on the ones that don't.

--
- Mama Bear


 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 17:39:06
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote:

>Ok, it sounds like I'm looking for a 4-cup drip maker then, with a glass
>carafe and that uses paper filters, not permanent ones.
>
>Can someone recommend a well-rated one for me please, for under $50? Like
>something that has good ratings at amazon.com or somewhere?
>

Do you have a grinder? Fresh coffee, freshly ground makes a
difference.

What about something that costs less, makes better coffee, and allows
you total control over the process?

http://www.zaccardis.com/coffee-filter-cone.html

Check my website in the "Coffee making Methods" section for details.


Randy "Look Ma! I have a website!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 19:44:49
From: Mama Bear
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote :

> Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo> wrote:
>
>>Ok, it sounds like I'm looking for a 4-cup drip maker then, with a
>>glass carafe and that uses paper filters, not permanent ones.
>>
>>Can someone recommend a well-rated one for me please, for under $50?
>>Like something that has good ratings at amazon.com or somewhere?
>>
>
> Do you have a grinder? Fresh coffee, freshly ground makes a
> difference.

Yes I do, thanks. :)

> What about something that costs less, makes better coffee, and allows
> you total control over the process?
>
> http://www.zaccardis.com/coffee-filter-cone.html

Interesting. How does it make better coffee than a drip machine though?
Isn't it essentially a manual drip machine?

> Check my website in the "Coffee making Methods" section for details.
>
>
> Randy "Look Ma! I have a website!" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com

Awesome site! I'll pass it on to the group on Yahoo.




--
- Mama Bear


   
Date: 06 Sep 2006 19:28:05
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Drip maker?
Mama Bear <MamaBear@No-Spam.noo > wrote:

>> What about something that costs less, makes better coffee, and allows
>> you total control over the process?
>>
>> http://www.zaccardis.com/coffee-filter-cone.html
>
>Interesting. How does it make better coffee than a drip machine though?
>Isn't it essentially a manual drip machine?
>

Yes, that is exactly what it is. The difference is that you can easily
control all parameters- water:coffee ratio, water temperature, and
pour rate, and even water dispersion. Clean up is generally easier as
well. It also works when the electricity is off- just need a heat
source like a camping stove.

Additionally, when you want something different, try the Aeropress
(review and links on my website).


Randy "YES! he does it all- except shut up" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com