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Date: 01 Mar 2007 10:11:08
From: gscace
Subject: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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Hi: I just finished building and installing a bolt-on, programmable pressure profiling pump system to my uber-stable LM Frankenlinea. I did this because I wanted to test prevailing ideas about preinfusion, the benefits of lever machine pressure profiles, etc. on a very stable platform on which selected brewing parameters may be quickly changed while holding others constant to values which are the current state of the art. At the same time, if the tests warranted, I wanted to make the system transparent enough that I could put together similar systems so that interested folks could just do a pump swap, with no extra effort involved. Depending on how this all goes over the next few weeks I may end up writing something more comprehensive, but for now I'll give progress reports as I learn stuff. Acknowledgements up front for folks who who ought to be recognized: Andy Scheckter implemented brew pressure profiling over a year ago, and should be credited as being a true pioneer on this. I'd like to thank Michael Teahan for tipping me off to a source of the required pump, and to Clyde Smith at Fluid-o-Tech, for his advice and encouragement. I should also mention here that the path I'm treading is not new. There is a body of work that has recently been performed by machine manufacturers, but I am not privy to details. As I said earlier, the idea here isn't necessarily to pioneer any device, but to test the idea of pressure profiling in a reasonably systematic way, look at any perceived benefit from pressure profiling, publish the results in places where the results might have some impact, and in the end maybe make it possible for others to tailor brew parameter space for themselves if the results warrant. Now, a little about the device: Unlike Andy's, the programmable pressure-profiling system (PPPS) is built from an array of commercially available parts. The pump is a rotary vane pump, which is magnetically coupled to 3-phase magnetic drive. Power is supplied to the pump drive by an accompanying 3-phase, variable-frequency converter that operates the drive over the range from 1100 to 3500RPM. The RPM of the pump is varied in response to an output signal provided by a fast-acting, industrial process controller. An electronic pressure transducer mounted in the water delivery line to the espresso machine provides a feedback signal to the process controller. The pump / drive combination is really quite interesting. Power consumption of the magnetic drive is 1/3 the power required by a traditional AC motor / pump combination. The system also has reliability advantages. Since the pump is magnetically coupled to the drive, there is no shaft seal to wear out. The pump plumbing is configured so that most of the water delivered by the pump impeller is recirculated to the pump inlet. The amount of recirculation is adjusted so that the pump runs at nearly maximum speed when the output pressure is approximately 140 psi. This sets the pressure range of the pump from almost no pressure at 1100 RPM to 140 psi at slightly less than 3500 RPM. The test machinery: The test platform includes equipment considered to be state-of-the-art within the coffee industry. The pump is installed on a 2-group, LM FrankenLinea AV. Water supply to the pump is from a 5-gal. plastic carboy, filled with carbon-filtered water conditioned by an acid neutralizer and solar salt ion-exchange softener. Unlike a stock Linea, the Linea used here has no exposed plumbing. Flowmeters and group solenoids are mounted on top of the group caps, with water passageways integrated into the cap design. Temperature stability and reproducibility of this machine is better than 1 degree F under all duty cycles. Temperature control is achieved using a boiler mounted thermocouple, with industrial fuzzy- logic process controller. The machine has 0.6mm gicleurs installed in both groups. A Mazzer Robur is used for grinding the coffee. Coffee is roasted in-house (literally, since that's where Espresso Research Company HQ resides) on a Has Garanti drum roaster with 1 kg. capacity. Progress: I've got the pump installed on the Linea and I've learned how to control the pump. The coupled system of pump and espresso machine produces an interesting control problem on startup. Cool makeup water entering the boiler expands, raising the boiler pressure to 12 bar. On pump startup, the brew solenoid opens, ejecting a small amount of water. At the same time the pump activates, with speed controlled by the process controller. The controller at first detects falling pressure, and speeds the pump to compensate, resulting in a pressure burp on startup. The problem is reasonably managed by selecting the fuzzy logic control parameter in the controller, and assigning an initial pressure setpoint of around 1.5 bar, rather than my initial setting of zero. The controller now detects a falling pressure, but the response is to allow the pressure to fall, ramping quickly to 1.5 bar for 1 second, then initiating the programmed pre- infusion cycle. There is no issue of pressure burping if the pump is configured to mimic a normal AC-motor-driven pump. In this case, at startup the pump speed rapidly increases to that which is required to support 9 bars pressure as measured in the group. I have loaded a program into the controller that mimics an e-61 pre- infusion profile on startup, with straight-line (linear) increase in pressure over an 8-second period to 9 bars of pressure. The pressure profile remains constant at 9 bars for 5 seconds, then reduces linearly to approximately 7 bars at pump cutoff. The pre-infusion result is visually interesting to me in that liquid appears at the same time over the entire surface of the brew basket (bottomless portafilter), indicating that saturation of the cake is occurring more or less completely. It's intuitively satisfying, at the least in that the subsequent liquid flow buildup is uniform and very similar to what I have observed from e-61 machines. The effect of the pre-infusion ramp on required grind fineness is that my Robur needed to be set to produce finer grind by several divisions of the knurled outer surface of the adjusting collar. This is similar to what I experienced when reducing gicleur diameters in the Linea during comparison tests against a pre-production LM GS3 last winter ('05 - 06). I attribute this to reduced "slamming" of hot water into the cake, reduction of fines migration, or whatnot. Anyway it seemed reasonable to me based on past experience. The pressure tail-off is an arbitray exercise just because I could do it, and because Andy Scheckter reports some benefit. It appears possible to control the flow rate of the extraction by controlling pressure tail-off, and by doing so somewhat delay the onset of blonding. I don't know much more than that at this time. Paul Pratt kindly sent me the pressure profile of his Faema lever machine, which I will try when I get a little more orderly in my methods. Essentially his machine starts at near zero pressure, builds very quickly to 8.5 bars (piston release), and then reduces to 3 bars at the end of the extraction. I'm presuming the pressure reduction is linear since the piston is spring-driven. Taste - Obviously this is the important, bottom-line issue. Qualitative observation of extraction is only meaningful if it can be correctly correlated to optimum taste. It's REALLY early to draw any meaningful conclusions. But I didn't screw up by installing the pump system. The coffee is at least as good as I was producing before, and I was doing a pretty good job prior to the pump install. I've not yet had time to alternate back and forth between straight 9 bar extractions and profiled extractions, because my first efforts have been in sorting out the system. I hope to do testing soon that will be reasonably valid. I may bring another conical grinder home to pair with the Robur so that I can one grinder correctly for profiled shots and one for constant pressure shots. And I've got to find some test victims - maybe local folk that can really hold their coffee. More soon! -Greg This is gonna get cross-posted at HB and Coffeed. Both sites are not necessarily visited by AC folk, and both sites have different target audiences.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 08:33:37
From: gscace
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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On 1, 11:21 pm, shall <mrf...@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote: > On 1 2007 10:11:08 -0800, "gscace" <gregory.sc...@nist.gov> wrote: > > >Hi: > > >I just finished building and installing a bolt-on, programmable > >pressure profiling pump system to my uber-stable LM Frankenlinea. I > >did this because I wanted to test prevailing ideas about preinfusion, > >the benefits of lever machine pressure profiles, etc. on a very stable > >platform on which selected brewing parameters may be quickly changed > >while holding others constant to values which are the current state of > >the art. At the same time, if the tests warranted, I wanted to make > >the system transparent enough that I could put together similar > >systems so that interested folks could just do a pump swap, with no > >extra effort involved. Depending on how this all goes over the next > >few weeks I may end up writing something more comprehensive, but for > >now I'll give progress reports as I learn stuff. ... > > Great stuff, Greg! > > Now, is it just my imagination or are you and Ken Fox in a race to see > who can spend the most time and money converting your high-end > machines into Zaffiro/Amicas? > > shall :-) No. I'm in a race to obsolete the GS3. Then if I ever get one, I'll feel good about tinkering with it. -Greg
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 04:21:34
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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On 1 2007 10:11:08 -0800, "gscace" <gregory.scace@nist.gov > wrote: >Hi: > >I just finished building and installing a bolt-on, programmable >pressure profiling pump system to my uber-stable LM Frankenlinea. I >did this because I wanted to test prevailing ideas about preinfusion, >the benefits of lever machine pressure profiles, etc. on a very stable >platform on which selected brewing parameters may be quickly changed >while holding others constant to values which are the current state of >the art. At the same time, if the tests warranted, I wanted to make >the system transparent enough that I could put together similar >systems so that interested folks could just do a pump swap, with no >extra effort involved. Depending on how this all goes over the next >few weeks I may end up writing something more comprehensive, but for >now I'll give progress reports as I learn stuff. ... Great stuff, Greg! Now, is it just my imagination or are you and Ken Fox in a race to see who can spend the most time and money converting your high-end machines into Zaffiro/Amicas? shall :-)
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 20:04:55
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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> More soon! > > -Greg Exciting stuff, Greg. I hope to hear more. I do hope that after all this work you will use a double-blind testing. Or, if all else fails, at least a single-blind testing scheme. Dan
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 16:16:40
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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"gscace" <gregory.scace@nist.gov > wrote in message news:1172772667.953664.121170@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi: > Hi Greg, This is all very interesting. If it turns out that there is real benefit in a pressure tail off, I can think of a fairly simple and cheap way of producing this without huge modifications to a machine, assuming it is plumbed in with reasonably high input mains water pressure (obviously does not apply to your current setup discussed herein). This would be with an additional modification of what I have done with my "Franken-Cimbali Jr.," the rotary one, which has a combination of a pressure regulator on the input side (set at 3.5 bar) plus a delay on make timer that starts the rotary pump after about 6 seconds of regulated mains pressure. What would be needed would be some sort of delay on break timer, that would be set to turn off the pump after a set time period, reverting back to the open solenoid but pump-off state that makes for the preinfusion I have at the beginning of shots, a sort of "postinfusion" if you will. Any of these sorts of mods including what you and Andy are attempting will require better control the grind level, because you sort of have to decide beforehand how long you want the shot to last in order to choose when the various pressure levels kick in, assuming we are dealing with timing functions rather than pressure functions. This means that a shot intended to be a 35 second ristretto that turns out to be a 25 second normale, is not going to benefit from the intended pressure drop at the end of the shot. Conversely, the intended-normale that turns into an unintentional ristretto might have the low pressure part of the shot kick in way too early. So if you don't get the grind exactly right, I think there could be some unintended results that may or may not be good. One advantage of preinfusion-only is that the rest of the shot can just take its time and be whatever it is going to be. It would be much easier if any of us were cranking out tens of shots per day, so that our grinder adjustments were minimal and predictable. Instead, we are often making shots after many hours of non-use, during which the humidity, the coffee, and other things can change and unless we want to be pitching half our shots down the drain, compromises are being made. Or at least that is what happens to me. ken
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 16:02:09
From: bernie
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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gscace wrote: > Hi: > > I just finished building and installing a bolt-on, programmable > pressure profiling pump system to my uber-stable LM Frankenlinea. huge snips > More soon! > > -Greg > Facinating, Greg. I stand in awe. I have to read this stuff several times to get the whole gist and it is so impressive. Do you suspect there would be data to fall out that would indicate that for a particular coffee there would be an optimal range of grind/pressure? That would be something. To find that our 25-30second pulls at 8.75-9.25 bar might be way off the optimal taste we could obtain with a given coffee. I would intuitivly think the lighter roasts or more subtle nuances of African coffees would be coaxed out optimally at a lower overall pressure profile compared to maybe a dark roast or something like a Sumatra or Sulewesi. Maybe not. I look forward to your work and appreciate what you are doing. Bernie (technology eludes me most days)
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 12:06:05
From: gscace
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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Hey cool. Email me at gscace at NIST dot GOV and I'll give you my phone numbers. I'm gonna have a chunk of time next weekend (from the 8th thru the 12th) as wife Casey and munchkin Anneke are off to visit Anneke's cousins and Casey's sister. -Greg On 1, 3:00 pm, old...@adelphia.net wrote: > Greg, > If you need any victims let me know I'd be MORE than willing to drink > your espresso. > I'm just north of you in Frederick and you're in my old stomping > grounds. > > Kurt > > > On 1, 1:11 pm, "gscace" <gregory.sc...@nist.gov> wrote: > > And I've got to find some test > > victims - maybe local folk that can really hold their coffee. > > > More soon! > > > -Greg
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 12:00:12
From:
Subject: Re: Experiments in programmable, variable brew pressure profiling
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Greg, If you need any victims let me know I'd be MORE than willing to drink your espresso. I'm just north of you in Frederick and you're in my old stomping grounds. Kurt > On 1, 1:11 pm, "gscace" <gregory.sc...@nist.gov> wrote: > And I've got to find some test > victims - maybe local folk that can really hold their coffee. > > More soon! > > -Greg
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