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Date: 23 Jun 2007 17:25:52
From: Godzilla
Subject: Finally installed PID on Silvia
My PID kit from Jim Galt came sooner than I had anticipated.
I didn't expect that the installation would be a piece of cake.
But, this wasn't even a piece of pie. ;-)

Someone had posted earlier that it took him two hours to do the
installation. I take my hat off to that individual.
Or, perhaps big lizards are too dumb to work that rapidly.
It took me much longer than that. My ego prohibits me from reporting
just how long. After I sewed the patient up, I even had parts left
over! (four square washer type brackets and one cable tie)

The bottom line: I turned the machine on and held my breath.
No smoke belched forth, no flames shot up in the air, and all of the
circuit breakers in the house did not trip. It was fun, and I mean
FUN in caps to watch one digital readout stay at the set point of
228.0 and the other one climb rapidly until it approached the
same point. At that time, it oscillated a bit and then settled down at
exactly 228.0.

Perhaps I was too elated from the successful addition to tamp at my
best. I put two shot glasses under Silvia's spouts and the left side
started coming out with nothing coming out of the right spout for a
few seconds. I wound up with about 1-1/4 oz. in the leftmost glass
and about 3/4 oz (ristretto?) in the right glass. It tasted sublime.

Am I correct in assuming that my uneven tamp was the cause of the
difference in fills for the two glasses? I have already checked the
top of the machine with a bubble level, and it was right on mark.

Happy Espresso Drinking to All!

Godzilla




 
Date: 23 Jun 2007 23:53:58
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Finally installed PID on Silvia
If you're referring to one of my posts, the two hour install was *actual*
wrench time. I had laid it all out & run through everything in my mind
beforehand, so the two hours is a bit misleading. Having done a couple now
I'm pretty sure that if I was starting with one of Jim's kits I could do it
in an hour. It *really* is a simple process; Hell, he's done 90% of the work
for you already - it almost seems like someone's cheating by doing it this
way!
--
Robert Harmon
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"Godzilla" <godzilla@monsters.org > wrote in message
news:9a37a$467d9df0$cf9b1316$27097@ALLTEL.NET...
> My PID kit from Jim Galt came sooner than I had anticipated.
> I didn't expect that the installation would be a piece of cake.
> But, this wasn't even a piece of pie. ;-)
>
> Someone had posted earlier that it took him two hours to do the
> installation. I take my hat off to that individual.
> Or, perhaps big lizards are too dumb to work that rapidly.
> It took me much longer than that. My ego prohibits me from reporting
> just how long. After I sewed the patient up, I even had parts left
> over! (four square washer type brackets and one cable tie)
>
> The bottom line: I turned the machine on and held my breath.
> No smoke belched forth, no flames shot up in the air, and all of the
> circuit breakers in the house did not trip. It was fun, and I mean
> FUN in caps to watch one digital readout stay at the set point of
> 228.0 and the other one climb rapidly until it approached the
> same point. At that time, it oscillated a bit and then settled down at
> exactly 228.0.
>
> Perhaps I was too elated from the successful addition to tamp at my
> best. I put two shot glasses under Silvia's spouts and the left side
> started coming out with nothing coming out of the right spout for a
> few seconds. I wound up with about 1-1/4 oz. in the leftmost glass
> and about 3/4 oz (ristretto?) in the right glass. It tasted sublime.
>
> Am I correct in assuming that my uneven tamp was the cause of the
> difference in fills for the two glasses? I have already checked the
> top of the machine with a bubble level, and it was right on mark.
>
> Happy Espresso Drinking to All!
>
> Godzilla




  
Date: 24 Jun 2007 08:40:51
From: Godzilla
Subject: Re: Finally installed PID on Silvia
Robert Harmon wrote:

> If you're referring to one of my posts, the two hour install was
> actual wrench time. I had laid it all out & run through everything
> in my mind beforehand, so the two hours is a bit misleading. Having
> done a couple now I'm pretty sure that if I was starting with one of
> Jim's kits I could do it in an hour. It really is a simple process;
> Hell, he's done 90% of the work for you already - it almost seems
> like someone's cheating by doing it this way!
> Robert Harmon

To put things in proper perspective, I did have a few "minor"
considerations to deal with that you may not have experienced.

1. I only own a desktop computer, not a laptop. That necessitated
improvising a work area in the computer room, not in my shop.

2. My screen blanker had a nasty habit of activating when I would go
to the other area of the room to turn a screw. When I would return to
the computer, I had to log in with my password to unlock the screen
before I could re-read a section of the text to ascertain whether I
had understood or misunderstood a paragraph.

3. Several times, I had inspirations that I had a tool in the shop
that would facilitate an operation better than the ones that I had
brought to the computer room. That meant traversing the house,
removing my slippers, donning shoes, going through the garage to
reach the shop, turning on the light, searching through drawers in
the tool box, and reversing the whole process in order to return.
Then, after unlocking the screen again, I would have to ponder the
inevitable question: "Where was I?"

4. I generally look at the computer screen with glasses, but remove
them for doing any close work, being myopic in one eye. This takes
time in both directions.

5. Last but not least, I had to deal with a number of mini-crises
promulgated by by a member of my household who is of a gender which
is different than myself.;-)

All that said, I am certain that doing a second installation could be
accomplished in a time frame which would be an order of magnitude
smaller than the first pass.

Godzilla



   
Date: 24 Jun 2007 09:03:19
From: bernie
Subject: Re: Finally installed PID on Silvia
Godzilla wrote:
> Robert Harmon wrote:
>
>
>>If you're referring to one of my posts, the two hour install was
>>actual wrench time. I had laid it all out & run through everything
>>in my mind beforehand, so the two hours is a bit misleading. Having
>>done a couple now I'm pretty sure that if I was starting with one of
>>Jim's kits I could do it in an hour. It really is a simple process;
>>Hell, he's done 90% of the work for you already - it almost seems
>>like someone's cheating by doing it this way!
>>Robert Harmon
>
>
> To put things in proper perspective, I did have a few "minor"
> considerations to deal with that you may not have experienced.
>
> 1. I only own a desktop computer, not a laptop. That necessitated
> improvising a work area in the computer room, not in my shop.
>

> Godzilla



I see your problem. Jim forgot the include the ususal
laptop-so-I-can-work-in-the-garage upgrade. Ask for a refund.=)
Bernie