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Date: 28 Apr 2007 17:03:35
From: LF
Subject: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked.
As with six out of six used espresso machines I=E2=80=99ve owned, it initia=
lly
needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems
that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand
how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them.

The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know
West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it.
Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up,
that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still
underway, then backflushing.

There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how
quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a
cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled
the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they
were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete
the circuit.

Thanks all for your advise.
Best regards,=E2=80=A8Larry





 
Date: 29 Apr 2007 06:03:35
From: Dave b
Subject: Re: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, LF <fie...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked.
> As with six out of six used espresso machines I=E2=80=99ve owned, it init=
ially
> needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems
> that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand
> how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them.
>
> The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know
> West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it.
> Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up,
> that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still
> underway, then backflushing.
>
> There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how
> quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a
> cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled
> the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they
> were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete
> the circuit.
>
> Thanks all for your advise.
> Best regards,=E2=80=A8Larry

Very good!

dave



 
Date: 28 Apr 2007 21:06:47
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
Congrats on your good deal.- I'm not surprised that there wasn't much wrong
with it, nor that it was totally filthy. Apparently the proper procedures
for machine maintenance are a state secret and are never disclosed to any
commercial operator. At least that's what I gather from the commercial
machines I've seen.


"LF" <fieman@gmail.com > wrote in message
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Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked.
As with six out of six used espresso machines I've owned, it initially
needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems
that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand
how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them.

The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know
West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it.
Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up,
that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still
underway, then backflushing.

There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how
quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a
cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled
the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they
were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete
the circuit.

Thanks all for your advise.
Best regards,?Larry