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Date: 28 Apr 2007 17:03:35
From: LF
Subject: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
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Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked. As with six out of six used espresso machines I=E2=80=99ve owned, it initia= lly needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them. The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it. Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up, that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still underway, then backflushing. There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete the circuit. Thanks all for your advise. Best regards,=E2=80=A8Larry
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Date: 29 Apr 2007 06:03:35
From: Dave b
Subject: Re: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
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On Apr 28, 8:03 pm, LF <fie...@gmail.com > wrote: > Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked. > As with six out of six used espresso machines I=E2=80=99ve owned, it init= ially > needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems > that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand > how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them. > > The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know > West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it. > Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up, > that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still > underway, then backflushing. > > There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how > quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a > cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled > the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they > were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete > the circuit. > > Thanks all for your advise. > Best regards,=E2=80=A8Larry Very good! dave
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Date: 28 Apr 2007 21:06:47
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Follow-up (Pasquini Livia: electrical problems? )
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Congrats on your good deal.- I'm not surprised that there wasn't much wrong with it, nor that it was totally filthy. Apparently the proper procedures for machine maintenance are a state secret and are never disclosed to any commercial operator. At least that's what I gather from the commercial machines I've seen. "LF" <fieman@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1177805015.854711.274210@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... Within a fifteen minutes of bringing the Livia 90 home, it worked. As with six out of six used espresso machines I've owned, it initially needed a good internal cleaning -- a really good cleaning. It seems that people get espresso machines, use them a bit, do not understand how to do basic maintenance, then give up on them. The Livia looked clean. The former owners had worked for a well know West Coast coffee franchise, so I thought they had maintained it. Apparently, only on the outside. The shower screen was so gummed up, that water only trickled into the portafilter. Descaling is still underway, then backflushing. There is no electrical problem. The owners invited me to see how quickly the lights went out, right after turning the machine on from a cold start (c30 seconds, said they). I declined. When home, I filled the machine with water, and both lights worked normally. I think they were testing the machine dry; it needs water in the system to complete the circuit. Thanks all for your advise. Best regards,?Larry
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