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Date: 01 Nov 2006 03:44:22
From: Kevin
Subject: Gaggia Achille lever machine
Greetings all,

I am seriously considering the purchase of a new Gaggia Achille lever
espresso machine (the new model with the heat-exchanger grouphead) and
was wondering if any of the members of this forum have any firsthand
experience with this particular model. I did a search on the Net and
wasn't able to find much information on this machine other than sales
pitches from various Gaggia dealers, so any information would be greatly
appreciated. :-)By the way, I'm an experienced user of spring-loaded
piston machines, so the learning curve with lever machines isn't an
issue for me.

Cheers,

Kevin




 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 04:05:27
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: Gaggia Achille lever machine
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:44:22 -0500, Kevin <KSpind4769@aol.com > wrote:

>I am seriously considering the purchase of a new Gaggia Achille lever
>espresso machine (the new model with the heat-exchanger grouphead) and
>was wondering if any of the members of this forum have any firsthand
>experience with this particular model

The machine is being reviewed at http://home-barista.com/


  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 02:47:14
From: Kevin
Subject: Re: Gaggia Achille lever machine
jim schulman wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:44:22 -0500, Kevin <KSpind4769@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I am seriously considering the purchase of a new Gaggia Achille lever
>>espresso machine (the new model with the heat-exchanger grouphead) and
>>was wondering if any of the members of this forum have any firsthand
>>experience with this particular model
>
>
> The machine is being reviewed at http://home-barista.com/

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post regarding the
Gaggia Achille...and I'm delighted to learn of the home-barista.com
website as I had no idea that it even existed until now; lots of great
information to be found there! I've been reading all the postings on
lever machines and have learned quite a few things in the process. Keep
up the good work!

Cheers,

Kevin


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 08:58:04
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Gaggia Achille lever machine
Kevin wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I am seriously considering the purchase of a new Gaggia Achille lever
> espresso machine (the new model with the heat-exchanger grouphead) and
> was wondering if any of the members of this forum have any firsthand
> experience with this particular model. I did a search on the Net and
> wasn't able to find much information on this machine other than sales
> pitches from various Gaggia dealers, so any information would be greatly
> appreciated. :-)By the way, I'm an experienced user of spring-loaded
> piston machines, so the learning curve with lever machines isn't an
> issue for me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kevin

If you are used to commercial spring lever machines the learning curve
will be still be there when using manual lever machines. The spring
does all the work in commercial machines but you will be actually
pulling the shot yourself (attempting to gracefully copy what the
spring did)...

I also don't know if newer non-spring machines still suffer from the
overheating issues that Pavoni etc had, limiting the number of shots
you can pull. Commercial levers (like the machines I use) have a much
larger groups that heatsink well, upto a point.

At least (if it works) the Achille autofills the boiler, saving the
annoyance of having to cool down between boiler fills...


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 11:54:41
From: Bill (Adopt)
Subject: Re: Gaggia Achille lever machine
In article <4qr5rpFoijukU1@individual.net >,
Danny <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote:
> Kevin wrote:

> > I am seriously considering the purchase of a new Gaggia Achille lever
> > espresso machine (the new model with the heat-exchanger grouphead) and
> > was wondering if any of the members of this forum have any firsthand
> > experience with this particular model.

[..]

> If you are used to commercial spring lever machines the learning curve
> will be still be there when using manual lever machines. The spring
> does all the work in commercial machines but you will be actually
> pulling the shot yourself (attempting to gracefully copy what the
> spring did)...

Observed a Gaggia Barista pulling a shot with an Achille
last week.

Although the shot was successful the young Barista, George,
had to pull so hard on the handle as to lift his toes almost
off the ground - whilst trying to hold the squirming Achille
flat and square to the bench!

It worked ..but it did look so, um.. studiously energetic! ;'))

Bill ZFC

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