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Date: 17 Oct 2006 01:01:28
From:
Subject: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.

I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
to the pods tbh.

Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
use the illy ones too?

Any other advice?

TIA for any comments.





 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 04:43:28
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

Bill (Adopt) wrote:

> In article <1161072088.766619.316270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> <ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> > Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> > use the illy ones too?
>
> The single basket that comes with the Gaggia commercial
> 'type' pf has a coned interior that, I guess, is meant

Thank you Bill, comments much appreciated.



 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 04:37:35
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

Phil P wrote:

> ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> > using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>
> [snip]
>
> Don't consider using pre-ground Illy -- apart from being stale and
> over-priced, it's too coarse for use with a 'proper' espresso machine
> (as opposed to a 'fake' one with pressurised portafilter) and the thin
> brackish liquid that comes out will very probably be undrinkable. Good
> luck.

Thanks for the tip, I'm realising a grinder is going to be an essential
purchase.



 
Date: 19 Oct 2006 15:42:05
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.

[snip]

Don't consider using pre-ground Illy -- apart from being stale and
over-priced, it's too coarse for use with a 'proper' espresso machine
(as opposed to a 'fake' one with pressurised portafilter) and the thin
brackish liquid that comes out will very probably be undrinkable. Good
luck.



 
Date: 19 Oct 2006 15:31:14
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

PhilB wrote:

[snippage]

> I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
> the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
> smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's =A380 less (Gaggia =A3245 at
> Amazon, Silvia =A3325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
> suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
> from my current cheapo burr grinder.

Bear in mind that most online reviews will be from users in North
America, where Silvia runs at 800 watts, and where there have been
negative comments regarding the warm-up and shot-to-steam time. In the
UK, it runs at >1200 watts and so waiting times are correspondingly
reduced. I don't know the actual difference in warm-up times between
the two machines, but suspect it's not worth basing your buying
decision on. Oh, and Silvia appears to come with a pod adaptor
included now . . .



 
Date: 19 Oct 2006 09:18:58
From: PhilB
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Interesting - I'll keep an eye on that, especially if they ever get a
grinder on there...

Phil

On Oct 19, 4:58 pm, "hudson" <Mhh21c_removeth...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Snip
>
> I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
> the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
> smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's =A380 less (Gaggia =A3245 at
> Amazon, Silvia =A3325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
> suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
> from my current cheapo burr grinder.
>
> Phil
>
> Snip
>
> You could always buy a reconditioned machine from Gaggia
>
> http://www.gaggia.co.uk/
>
> 12 months warranty etc. There is a Classic on there for GBP 199.00 at the
> moment. Bottom right of page click nearly new machines.
>=20
> Stuart



  
Date: 19 Oct 2006 21:36:41
From: James Jeffrey
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
oe_components on ebay always have a classic going for 199, listed as
new with Warranty.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAGGIA-CLASSIC-NEW-THE-BEST-MODEL-ESPRESSO-MAKER_W0QQitemZ270042106594QQihZ017QQcategoryZ20671QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think I may wait for the Gaggia Baby Twin so I can benefit from the
double boiler.

PhilB wrote:
> Interesting - I'll keep an eye on that, especially if they ever get a
> grinder on there...
>
> Phil
>
> On Oct 19, 4:58 pm, "hudson" <Mhh21c_removeth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Snip
>>
>> I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
>> the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
>> smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's 80 less (Gaggia 245 at
>> Amazon, Silvia 325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
>> suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
>> from my current cheapo burr grinder.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Snip
>>
>> You could always buy a reconditioned machine from Gaggia
>>
>> http://www.gaggia.co.uk/
>>
>> 12 months warranty etc. There is a Classic on there for GBP 199.00 at the
>> moment. Bottom right of page click nearly new machines.
>>
>> Stuart
>


 
Date: 19 Oct 2006 01:57:18
From: PhilB
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
I understand Ian's question.

* He lives in a house with several people.
* He cares about coffee and wants to make good espresso, from fresh
ground coffee (or prepackaged - I haven't reread the question)
* Other people in his house care less, but will still want to use the
machine to make a small coffee-based beverage with which most of this
group would not sully their pallette. The sort of people who'd buy a
senseo, tassimo, etc.
* He wants a machine that will fulfil both roles.

The gist of the responses I'm seeing say the Silvia or Gaggia, with a
suitable Rocky/MDF* grinder, will do him nicely for the first; the
Gaggia seems better set up for pods for the second (though I've also
seen indications you could use pods in the silvia as well). Sound about
right?

I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's =A380 less (Gaggia =A3245 at
Amazon, Silvia =A3325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
from my current cheapo burr grinder.

Phil
(* - does that mean wood for cheap furniture anywhere except the UK?)


Danny wrote:
> ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > You've completely misunderstood my question. I want to use it for
> > ground and other people want it for pods. Thanks anyway.
> >
>
> Ground when? Perhaps no-one misunderstood. Asking about Pods is an
> oxymoron, since although they are convenient they are also stale and
> not a great way to make coffee, let alone a proper espresso. Being
> expensive, they aren't "cost-effective", according to your own
> statement. A burr grinder (MDF or better) sat next to the machine
> will not take much more effort to use and will ensure far superior coffee.
>
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



  
Date: 19 Oct 2006 17:13:32
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
PhilB wrote:

> I understand Ian's question.
>
> * He lives in a house with several people.
> * He cares about coffee and wants to make good espresso, from fresh
> ground coffee (or prepackaged - I haven't reread the question)
> * Other people in his house care less, but will still want to use the
> machine to make a small coffee-based beverage with which most of this
> group would not sully their pallette. The sort of people who'd buy a
> senseo, tassimo, etc.
> * He wants a machine that will fulfil both roles.
>
> The gist of the responses I'm seeing say the Silvia or Gaggia, with a
> suitable Rocky/MDF* grinder, will do him nicely for the first; the
> Gaggia seems better set up for pods for the second (though I've also
> seen indications you could use pods in the silvia as well). Sound about
> right?
>
> I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
> the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
> smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's 80 less (Gaggia 245 at
> Amazon, Silvia 325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
> suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
> from my current cheapo burr grinder.
>
> Phil
> (* - does that mean wood for cheap furniture anywhere except the UK?)

MDF = Medium Density Fiberboard Great for hifi loudspeaker enclosures.
Not great for much else.

>
>
> Danny wrote:
>
>>ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>You've completely misunderstood my question. I want to use it for
>>>ground and other people want it for pods. Thanks anyway.
>>>
>>
>>Ground when? Perhaps no-one misunderstood. Asking about Pods is an
>>oxymoron, since although they are convenient they are also stale and
>>not a great way to make coffee, let alone a proper espresso. Being
>>expensive, they aren't "cost-effective", according to your own
>>statement. A burr grinder (MDF or better) sat next to the machine
>>will not take much more effort to use and will ensure far superior coffee.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Regards, Danny
>>
>>http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
>>http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)
>
>


  
Date: 19 Oct 2006 16:58:55
From: hudson
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Snip

I think, being in a similar situation, I'm going the Gaggia route for
the convenience - faster warm-up and shot-to-steam time coming from the
smaller aluminium boiler, and the fact it's 80 less (Gaggia 245 at
Amazon, Silvia 325 from Drury.co.uk - I'm open to better retail
suggestions). Will also try to beg for / save for an MDF to upgrade
from my current cheapo burr grinder.

Phil

Snip

You could always buy a reconditioned machine from Gaggia

http://www.gaggia.co.uk/

12 months warranty etc. There is a Classic on there for GBP 199.00 at the
moment. Bottom right of page click nearly new machines.

Stuart




  
Date: 19 Oct 2006 10:33:21
From: Steve Ackman
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
In <1161248238.320584.60610@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >, on 19 Oct 2006
01:57:18 -0700, PhilB wrote:

> suitable Rocky/MDF*

> (* - does that mean wood for cheap furniture anywhere except the UK?)

It's Medium Density Fiberboard in the US as well.



 
Date: 18 Oct 2006 11:36:15
From: Ian3193
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>
> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
> to the pods tbh.
>
> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> use the illy ones too?
>
> Any other advice?
>
> TIA for any comments.
I have been using a Gaggia Classic for about 6 years & must have made
thousands of shots with no problems. I do use a MDF grinder as I find
pre-ground is to course. The important thing i have found is to keep it
really clean & de-scale regulary, & use really fresh coffee. I dont
want to sound like an anorak, but I also use brita filtered water,
which, does make a difference! Hope this helps,
Ian



 
Date: 18 Oct 2006 04:13:16
From: PhilB
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Interestingly, easypods doesn't list the Gaggia Classic, although they
list the Carezza twice, so it may be a misprint. They do have the
Silvia in there though.

Phil

On Oct 18, 10:57 am, "Bill (Adopt)" <a...@billsimpson.com > wrote:
....
> You might also care to onsider changing your Gaggia's basket for
> an ibexpensive alternative, such as might be found at:
>
> http://www.easypods.co.uk/coffee_machines.html
>
> (with some not large example piccies of baskets to download, so
> if that link takes a little time to establish you might care to
> go directly in at:
>
> http://www.easypods.co.uk/
>
> However, remember that in all these cases, the ease and/or
> speed of use is merely in having the pod available ..it's
> only a matter of seconds to grind up your required amount
> of fresh beans - and the pods, although a little less messy,
> still require a clean up.
>
> You may not save much time with pods - and the usual negative
> points relating to your local store's pre-ground coffee-bricks,
> (for that in essence is what pods are, even if sealed in their
> own little plastic-foil containers), will apply - such as
> staleness, length date from roast, diminishing flavour etc etc.
>
> Do they have a use in a busy household ..perhaps ..and you can
> always save the best (fresh-roast, freshly ground, especially
> prepared luxurious syrupy black liquor for that special time of
> day when you can relax and enjoy).. ;))
>
> ..hope helps.. :))
>
> Bill ZFC
> e&oe etc!
>
> --
> Adoption InterLink UK with -=- http://www.billsimpson.com/
> Domain Host Orpheus Internet -=- http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/



 
Date: 18 Oct 2006 10:57:19
From: Bill (Adopt)
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
In article <1161072088.766619.316270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
<ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:


> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> use the illy ones too?

The single basket that comes with the Gaggia commercial
'type' pf has a coned interior that, I guess, is meant
also for pods. The sloping shoulder leading to the pin
prick exit holes should, in theory, allow differing sizes
of pod including Dr. Illy's ESE pods and alternatives as
well as Gaggia's own to 'seal' with the basket - thus
preventing any 'channelling' ..ie the water under pressure
sqeezing around the tissue edge of the pod...

This is theory - I guess!

In use the pod is not as successful as a single dose of
coffee - which, if taken as 7gm tends to float around the
rather large single basket anyway. (One reason why so many
seem to concentrate their use on the much easier to handle
double basket)...

Gaggia's single basket will take Illy's own ESE single pods
- in that they are small enough to float around the inside
of that basket - and Gaggia's own native offering.

It's possible that neither of the pods will seal with any
success as, under pressure, they tend to allow a watery mix
to 'pee' copiously out of the pf spouts, only touching the
coffee in a vague passing manner..

> Any other advice?

Possibly you might be better advised to use Gaggia's 14gm
double-size pods. They presently cost not that much more
than the 7gm singles and, if anything, certainly provide
a better 'fit' in the basket - and a different universe in
taste...

..however, you may also wish to consider the following when
using pods, (either single or double), with any Gaggia from
the Coffee onward..

Try a sort of manual pre-infusion, not altogether dissimilar
to that used automatically by the more expensive commercial
machines:

After your Group and pf have reached operating
temperature ..switch the pump 'on' and allow
it to run for not more than ten seconds or, at
the most, until a slight drip just forms in your
shot shot glass/espresso cup.

Switch the pump 'off' and wait a few seconds or
so. (The precise number you'll judge against
your experience with your own machine - but not
much more than ten seconds). This allows the
coffee to swell inside the puck and seal itself
against the sloping 'walls' of the basket.

Then, after this short wait, re-engage the pump
and continue for a further 15 or so seconds - or
until you have around 25ml (or perhaps 30ml) of
coffee - whatever you like.. :))

You might also care to onsider changing your Gaggia's basket for
an ibexpensive alternative, such as might be found at:

http://www.easypods.co.uk/coffee_machines.html

(with some not large example piccies of baskets to download, so
if that link takes a little time to establish you might care to
go directly in at:

http://www.easypods.co.uk/

However, remember that in all these cases, the ease and/or
speed of use is merely in having the pod available ..it's
only a matter of seconds to grind up your required amount
of fresh beans - and the pods, although a little less messy,
still require a clean up.

You may not save much time with pods - and the usual negative
points relating to your local store's pre-ground coffee-bricks,
(for that in essence is what pods are, even if sealed in their
own little plastic-foil containers), will apply - such as
staleness, length date from roast, diminishing flavour etc etc.

Do they have a use in a busy household ..perhaps ..and you can
always save the best (fresh-roast, freshly ground, especially
prepared luxurious syrupy black liquor for that special time of
day when you can relax and enjoy).. ;))

..hope helps.. :))

Bill ZFC
e&oe etc!

--
Adoption InterLink UK with -=- http://www.billsimpson.com/
Domain Host Orpheus Internet -=- http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/


 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 13:14:52
From: PhilB
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Harry Moos wrote:
> The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here. Is one
> really more expensive in the UK? However, Silvia is not a pod brewer, where
> the Classic can be.

Ah, I thought I'd seen that the Silvia could use pods (e.g.
http://www.easypods.co.uk/coffee_machines.html) Or is it just not
recommended?

Could be worse, the rest of my family have Nespresso machines :-(



  
Date: 17 Oct 2006 15:41:07
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
In article <1161116092.735074.191190@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"PhilB" <philip.bowman@gmail.com > wrote:

> Harry Moos wrote:
> > The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here. Is one
> > really more expensive in the UK? However, Silvia is not a pod brewer, where
> > the Classic can be.
>
> Ah, I thought I'd seen that the Silvia could use pods (e.g.
> http://www.easypods.co.uk/coffee_machines.html) Or is it just not
> recommended?
>
> Could be worse, the rest of my family have Nespresso machines :-(

Rancilio says the Silvia isn't pod compatible, but i found that you can
use the single basket just fine with one pod.

Of course, I think the product produced pretty much sucks, so I still
have most of the ESE pods I bought.


 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 11:31:55
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

hudson wrote:

> > <ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:1161072088.766619.316270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >>I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> >> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
> >>
> >> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> >> coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
> >> to the pods tbh.
> >>
> >> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> >> use the illy ones too?
> >>
> >> Any other advice?
> >>
> >> TIA for any comments.
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Although I have a classic I have never used pods but according to
>
> http://www.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia/classic.cfm
>
> you use the single filter basket for Illy pods.

Thanks for that.



 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 11:30:42
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

Harry Moos wrote:

> Sort of at opposites here, aren't we? Pods and "really good coffee" in the
> same machine are possible with the classic IF you get beans that have been
> roasted within seven days and grind them immediatealy before brewing with a
> quality burr grinder. I have the Gaggia MDF grinder [$150-200], which is
> sort of a minimum for "really good coffee." Of course, "really good coffee"
> is a highly subjective term. It's not something that we can agree on
> without a taste comparison. You may be perfectly happy with something I
> would not drink and turn up your nose at my best shot. But no machine will
> make really good espresso "easy" -- it will require time spent in learning,
> grinding and brewing, and cleanup. Even pods will require cleanup.

You've completely misunderstood my question. I want to use it for
ground and other people want it for pods. Thanks anyway.



  
Date: 18 Oct 2006 16:51:13
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> You've completely misunderstood my question. I want to use it for
> ground and other people want it for pods. Thanks anyway.
>

Ground when? Perhaps no-one misunderstood. Asking about Pods is an
oxymoron, since although they are convenient they are also stale and
not a great way to make coffee, let alone a proper espresso. Being
expensive, they aren't "cost-effective", according to your own
statement. A burr grinder (MDF or better) sat next to the machine
will not take much more effort to use and will ensure far superior coffee.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 10:48:00
From: PhilB
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
I'm in pretty much the exact same situation; although I'm likely to be
the only person using the machine, the 'morning me' is more likely to
use pods, whereas of an evening I'm more likely to take the time to
grind, tamp, etc.

I'm upgrading from a steam-powered machine which I threw away before I
moved house so I can't remember what make it was (Russell Hobbs?
Something about =A330, anyway). This machine will be a 35th Birthday
present from my parents, so I want to make the right choice, without
spending too much (of their) money. My alternative would be the
Rancilio Silvia; for occasional use is that really worth the extra
=A3100? We have a baby on the way, so I'm unlikely to start obsessing
over absolute quality, though I want something reasonably good.

And where in the London (Watford) area would you recommend buying it?
Or Online?

PhilB

On Oct 17, 9:01 am, ianharveygoo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>
> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
> to the pods tbh.
>
> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> use the illy ones too?
>=20
> Any other advice?
>=20
> TIA for any comments.



  
Date: 17 Oct 2006 13:17:50
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here. Is one
really more expensive in the UK? However, Silvia is not a pod brewer, where
the Classic can be.

"PhilB" <philip.bowman@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161107280.231910.27640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>My alternative would be the Rancilio Silvia; for occasional use is that
>really worth the extra 100?




   
Date: 17 Oct 2006 14:53:53
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Harry Moos wrote:

> The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here.

Except when you find a low miles Classic used at $200. I lucked out. I
had chosen Silvia for a new maker, but that was a deal that I couldn't
refuse. I gladly bought the used Classic.

Is one
> really more expensive in the UK? However, Silvia is not a pod brewer, where
> the Classic can be.
>
> "PhilB" <philip.bowman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161107280.231910.27640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
>>My alternative would be the Rancilio Silvia; for occasional use is that
>>really worth the extra 100?
>
>
>


    
Date: 17 Oct 2006 17:09:11
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
And one hardly ever finds a great deal on a used Silvia. I watched the
auction site for weeks before breaking down and ordering a new Silvia. I
saw several used Silvias selling for more than new price when you add
shipping [shipping was free on my new one, as well as an extended warranty].
Right now I see 9 Classics on eBay and only 6 Silvias. However, you really
have to watch the Classic listings. I have noticed several Gaggia Coffee
models listed as Classics at auction, even when the pictures clearly show a
Coffee.

"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com > wrote in message
news:12jak6tmak4li45@corp.supernews.com...
> Harry Moos wrote:
>
>> The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here.
>
> Except when you find a low miles Classic used at $200. I lucked out. I
> had chosen Silvia for a new maker, but that was a deal that I couldn't
> refuse. I gladly bought the used Classic.




     
Date: 17 Oct 2006 16:03:49
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Harry Moos wrote:

> And one hardly ever finds a great deal on a used Silvia. I watched the
> auction site for weeks before breaking down and ordering a new Silvia. I
> saw several used Silvias selling for more than new price when you add
> shipping [shipping was free on my new one, as well as an extended warranty].
> Right now I see 9 Classics on eBay and only 6 Silvias. However, you really
> have to watch the Classic listings. I have noticed several Gaggia Coffee
> models listed as Classics at auction, even when the pictures clearly show a
> Coffee.

I should've mentioned that I found my Classic on local craigslist. So I
actually got to see it work before paying. The woman had bought it to
replace a white Gaggia (can't say which model) that had quit working.
She then decided to rebuild the old one, as she preferred it because it
matched her kitchen better! True story, I saw it on the counter. At
the same time, she had the shop clean and test the Classic, so she could
sell it. I think I got the better deal, but I guess we both were happy.

Before finding this one, I did see "customer return" and refurb Silvias
on ebay.

>
> "Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com> wrote in message
> news:12jak6tmak4li45@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Harry Moos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here.
>>
>>Except when you find a low miles Classic used at $200. I lucked out. I
>>had chosen Silvia for a new maker, but that was a deal that I couldn't
>>refuse. I gladly bought the used Classic.
>
>
>


   
Date: 17 Oct 2006 19:29:09
From: James Jeffrey
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Yes, the Silvia is 100 more over here generally. Almost enough for a
Gaggia MDF grinder.

James

Harry Moos wrote:
> The Gaggia Classic and the Rancilio Silvia are the same price here. Is one
> really more expensive in the UK? However, Silvia is not a pod brewer, where
> the Classic can be.
>
> "PhilB" <philip.bowman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161107280.231910.27640@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> My alternative would be the Rancilio Silvia; for occasional use is that
>> really worth the extra 100?
>
>


 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 10:24:42
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod
Sort of at opposites here, aren't we? Pods and "really good coffee" in the
same machine are possible with the classic IF you get beans that have been
roasted within seven days and grind them immediatealy before brewing with a
quality burr grinder. I have the Gaggia MDF grinder [$150-200], which is
sort of a minimum for "really good coffee." Of course, "really good coffee"
is a highly subjective term. It's not something that we can agree on
without a taste comparison. You may be perfectly happy with something I
would not drink and turn up your nose at my best shot. But no machine will
make really good espresso "easy" -- it will require time spent in learning,
grinding and brewing, and cleanup. Even pods will require cleanup.

<ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message
news:1161072088.766619.316270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>
> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
> to the pods tbh.
>
> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
> use the illy ones too?
>
> Any other advice?
>
> TIA for any comments.
>




  
Date: 17 Oct 2006 17:26:06
From: hudson
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

> <ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1161072088.766619.316270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
>> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>>
>> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
>> coffee when the time is right.Others in the house will probably stick
>> to the pods tbh.
>>
>> Will this machine do the job? Can it only use the Gaggia pods or can it
>> use the illy ones too?
>>
>> Any other advice?
>>
>> TIA for any comments.
>>
>
>

Although I have a classic I have never used pods but according to

http://www.wholelattelove.com/Gaggia/classic.cfm

you use the single filter basket for Illy pods.

Regards,

Stuart




 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 07:02:09
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

LF wrote:

> ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> > using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
> >
> > I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> > coffee when the time is right <snip>
>
> "Really good coffee" from an espresso machine requires freshly ground
> (just before you pull the shot) fresh roasted beans. To make good
> espresso, you will need an adequate grinder. The Gaggia Classic is a
> good expresso machine for home use. There is a learning curve for
> making espresso at home.
>
> All the best,
> Larry

Thanks Larry, any information on the pods out there?

If it can only make a coffee when I use it (i.e. without pods) then it
will just not be cost effective.



 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 05:42:29
From: LF
Subject: Re: Gaggia classic, freshly ground and pod

ianharveygoogle@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a Gaggia Classic with the intention of
> using it with pods and freshly ground (and illy) coffee.
>
> I want the ease of the pod, but the ability to make a really good
> coffee when the time is right <snip>

"Really good coffee" from an espresso machine requires freshly ground
(just before you pull the shot) fresh roasted beans. To make good
espresso, you will need an adequate grinder. The Gaggia Classic is a
good expresso machine for home use. There is a learning curve for
making espresso at home.

All the best,
Larry