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Date: 23 Oct 2006 14:18:11
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?



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Date: 28 Oct 2006 18:25:47
From:
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
I bought the kitchenaid grinder and it gums up on me with that little
shoot opening and then starts spraying all over the place.

Get one that's self-contained and does'nt shoot into an open glass.


Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>
>
>
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>
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Date: 28 Oct 2006 21:27:24
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
mactek@techie.com wrote :

> I bought the kitchenaid grinder and it gums up on me with that little
> shoot opening and then starts spraying all over the place.
>
> Get one that's self-contained and does'nt shoot into an open glass.
>

I don't care that much about espresso, so I got the Starbucks Barista Burr
grinder for $89 and it seems to be doing quite fine for me, for my coffee.




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Date: 31 Oct 2006 15:37:07
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
It's a very nice grinder for coffee. A step up from almost anything most
people are using.

Enjoy it,
C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:XIudnQvlHI4RjNnYnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@forethought.net...
> mactek@techie.com wrote :
>
>> I bought the kitchenaid grinder and it gums up on me with that little
>> shoot opening and then starts spraying all over the place.
>>
>> Get one that's self-contained and does'nt shoot into an open glass.
>>
>
> I don't care that much about espresso, so I got the Starbucks Barista Burr
> grinder for $89 and it seems to be doing quite fine for me, for my coffee.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 19:54:27
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
If you go to my homepage at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~crimsoncascade/

and click on the link for Gaggia MDF at Amazon, it's $174 with free shipping
(use OCTSAVER as a coupon code at checkout).

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:qradnWuonIvuiKDYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@forethought.net...
> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




  
Date: 23 Oct 2006 22:08:49
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
I was over at Starbucks tonight, for my weekly Frapuccino espresso and
was talking to one of their people and inquiring about a grinder. She
said their Barista Burr Grinder is good for both coffee and espresso,
that she got one for her parents and it makes nice espresso too.
Thinking it might have just been prejudiced salesmanship, I went and
looked it up at coffeegeeks reviews:
http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/starbucks_barista_grinder

An overall rating of 8.1 is not a bad rating for a lower end grinder
like that.

"Tom Oravec (quality: 4.0) 09.26.2005 Rating: 8.2
Bottom Line: You CAN make espresso and even ristretto with this machine

Peter McDermott (quality: 8.0) 05.18.2004 Rating: 7.6
Bottom Line: If you life in the UK and can't afford a Gaggia MDF (the
next grinder up), this is your only option for espresso."

It usually goes for $99 but they have it on sale here for $89 now.




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Date: 24 Oct 2006 23:50:22
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:BYSdnTg3vchcHqDYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@forethought.net...
>I was over at Starbucks tonight, for my weekly Frapuccino espresso and
> was talking to one of their people and inquiring about a grinder. She
> said their Barista Burr Grinder is good for both coffee and espresso,
> that she got one for her parents and it makes nice espresso too.
> Thinking it might have just been prejudiced salesmanship, I went and
> looked it up at coffeegeeks reviews:
> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/starbucks_barista_grinder
>
> An overall rating of 8.1 is not a bad rating for a lower end grinder
> like that.
>
> "Tom Oravec (quality: 4.0) 09.26.2005 Rating: 8.2
> Bottom Line: You CAN make espresso and even ristretto with this machine
>
> Peter McDermott (quality: 8.0) 05.18.2004 Rating: 7.6
> Bottom Line: If you life in the UK and can't afford a Gaggia MDF (the
> next grinder up), this is your only option for espresso."
>
> It usually goes for $99 but they have it on sale here for $89 now.
>

used to have one of these, can confirm it IS NOT good enough for espresso.
Can't grind fine enough.




    
Date: 24 Oct 2006 12:17:43
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote :

> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
> news:BYSdnTg3vchcHqDYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>I was over at Starbucks tonight, for my weekly Frapuccino espresso
>>and
>> was talking to one of their people and inquiring about a grinder.
>> She said their Barista Burr Grinder is good for both coffee and
>> espresso, that she got one for her parents and it makes nice
>> espresso too. Thinking it might have just been prejudiced
>> salesmanship, I went and looked it up at coffeegeeks reviews:
>> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/starbucks_barista_grinder
>>
>> An overall rating of 8.1 is not a bad rating for a lower end grinder
>> like that.
>>
>> "Tom Oravec (quality: 4.0) 09.26.2005 Rating: 8.2
>> Bottom Line: You CAN make espresso and even ristretto with this
>> machine
>>
>> Peter McDermott (quality: 8.0) 05.18.2004 Rating: 7.6
>> Bottom Line: If you life in the UK and can't afford a Gaggia MDF
>> (the next grinder up), this is your only option for espresso."
>>
>> It usually goes for $99 but they have it on sale here for $89 now.
>>
>
> used to have one of these, can confirm it IS NOT good enough for
> espresso. Can't grind fine enough.

Thanks. It does look like I should just spend the extra money and get
the Gaggia MDF. Just gotta figure out what I can sell to get the money.


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Date: 25 Oct 2006 13:58:16
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:

> Thanks. It does look like I should just spend the extra money and get
> the Gaggia MDF. Just gotta figure out what I can sell to get the money.
>
>

Your body? (Only kidding) :) Thought I'd beat Randy to it...


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http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



      
Date: 25 Oct 2006 15:37:29
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Danny <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote :

> Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
>
>> Thanks. It does look like I should just spend the extra money and get
>> the Gaggia MDF. Just gotta figure out what I can sell to get the money.
>>
>>
>
> Your body? (Only kidding) :) Thought I'd beat Randy to it...

Argh. :)




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Date: 23 Oct 2006 21:09:05
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
You'd be wasting your money, but be our guest. You will be told that the
Capresso Infinity will also make espresso, and one of my two made espresso
for a month or two before it didn't anymore. The burrs are not hard enough
and the build of the machines not exact enough to produce the grind over
time.

So I look at as if I wasted $89, not saved $89.

Anybody can post a review. Anybody can say "I make delicious espresso with
my Krups steam toy! It's gotta' be good, it cost me $200!"

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:BYSdnTg3vchcHqDYnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@forethought.net...
>I was over at Starbucks tonight, for my weekly Frapuccino espresso and
> was talking to one of their people and inquiring about a grinder. She
> said their Barista Burr Grinder is good for both coffee and espresso,
> that she got one for her parents and it makes nice espresso too.
> Thinking it might have just been prejudiced salesmanship, I went and
> looked it up at coffeegeeks reviews:
> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/starbucks_barista_grinder
>
> An overall rating of 8.1 is not a bad rating for a lower end grinder
> like that.
>
> "Tom Oravec (quality: 4.0) 09.26.2005 Rating: 8.2
> Bottom Line: You CAN make espresso and even ristretto with this machine
>
> Peter McDermott (quality: 8.0) 05.18.2004 Rating: 7.6
> Bottom Line: If you life in the UK and can't afford a Gaggia MDF (the
> next grinder up), this is your only option for espresso."
>
> It usually goes for $99 but they have it on sale here for $89 now.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




    
Date: 24 Oct 2006 00:02:37
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> You'd be wasting your money, but be our guest. You will be told that
> the Capresso Infinity will also make espresso, and one of my two made
> espresso for a month or two before it didn't anymore. The burrs are
> not hard enough and the build of the machines not exact enough to
> produce the grind over time.
>
> So I look at as if I wasted $89, not saved $89.
>
> Anybody can post a review. Anybody can say "I make delicious
> espresso with my Krups steam toy! It's gotta' be good, it cost me
> $200!"
>

Yeah, I think you're right, it looks like the MDF is the best bang for
the buck under $200.

http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/gaggia_mdf/ladalet


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Date: 24 Oct 2006 10:27:03
From: Mike Garner
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
In article <jpednWzWq8vwA6DYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@forethought.net >,
Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz says...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
> > You'd be wasting your money, but be our guest. You will be told that
> > the Capresso Infinity will also make espresso, and one of my two made
> > espresso for a month or two before it didn't anymore. The burrs are
> > not hard enough and the build of the machines not exact enough to
> > produce the grind over time.
> >
> > So I look at as if I wasted $89, not saved $89.
> >
> > Anybody can post a review. Anybody can say "I make delicious
> > espresso with my Krups steam toy! It's gotta' be good, it cost me
> > $200!"
> >
>
> Yeah, I think you're right, it looks like the MDF is the best bang for
> the buck under $200.
>
> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/gaggia_mdf/ladalet
>
>
>

I have owned and used both. Yes, the Barista burr grinder (actually a
rebadged Solis 166) CAN be used for espresso...For about six months of
decreasing quality. This only after opening the case and readjusting
the grind range. The MDF is a far superior grinder. However, I'd still
buy the Tranquilo. The MDF is limited by it's range of grind settings.
Many times I wished I could grind in-between settings. (Which you can,
but it takes a steady hand holding the hopper)

The Tranqiuilo has much better adjustability as well as being a
commercial unit.

Mike


      
Date: 24 Oct 2006 12:19:35
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Mike Garner <coffee_snood@quar.net > wrote :

> In article <jpednWzWq8vwA6DYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@forethought.net>,
> Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz says...
>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>
>> > You'd be wasting your money, but be our guest. You will be told
>> > that the Capresso Infinity will also make espresso, and one of my
>> > two made espresso for a month or two before it didn't anymore.
>> > The burrs are not hard enough and the build of the machines not
>> > exact enough to produce the grind over time.
>> >
>> > So I look at as if I wasted $89, not saved $89.
>> >
>> > Anybody can post a review. Anybody can say "I make delicious
>> > espresso with my Krups steam toy! It's gotta' be good, it cost me
>> > $200!"
>> >
>>
>> Yeah, I think you're right, it looks like the MDF is the best bang
>> for the buck under $200.
>>
>> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders/gaggia_mdf/ladalet
>>
>>
>>
>
> I have owned and used both. Yes, the Barista burr grinder (actually
> a rebadged Solis 166) CAN be used for espresso...For about six months
> of decreasing quality. This only after opening the case and
> readjusting the grind range. The MDF is a far superior grinder.
> However, I'd still buy the Tranquilo.

Unfortunately I'm low income right now and will have to figure out what
I can sell to be able to get the MDF. I sure can't justify over $200 for
something like this.

> The MDF is limited by it's
> range of grind settings. Many times I wished I could grind
> in-between settings. (Which you can, but it takes a steady hand
> holding the hopper)
>
> The Tranqiuilo has much better adjustability as well as being a
> commercial unit.

Sounds nice.


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Date: 24 Oct 2006 14:38:48
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other thread you
started.

C




        
Date: 24 Oct 2006 17:03:19
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other thread
> you started.

I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the other
ones. I thought they went for $399.

Do you still have that link please?


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http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/


         
Date: 24 Oct 2006 18:07:10
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other thread
>> you started.
>
> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
> other
> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>
> Do you still have that link please?
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/


I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
Cheers,
Craig.



          
Date: 24 Oct 2006 18:28:42
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4q7h4dFlighuU1@individual.net...
>
> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>
>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
>>> thread
>>> you started.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>> other
>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>
>> Do you still have that link please?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Coffee Lover
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>
>
> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
> Cheers,
> Craig.

The other is Cora's @ $229 & Eligible for Free Shipping!! See if you
qualify, click here . http://www.corainc.com/Details.cfm/ProdID/485
Craig.



           
Date: 24 Oct 2006 18:19:26
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote :

>
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4q7h4dFlighuU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
>> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>>
>>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
>>>> thread
>>>> you started.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>>> other
>>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>>
>>> Do you still have that link please?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Coffee Lover
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>>
>>
>> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
>> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
>> Cheers,
>> Craig.
>
> The other is Cora's @ $229 & Eligible for Free Shipping!! See if you
> qualify, click here . http://www.corainc.com/Details.cfm/ProdID/485
> Craig.
>
>

If one charges $199 plus shipping and another charges $230 with "free"
shipping, it seems like the shipping isn't exactly "free" then, is it.
:)

TANSTAAFL ( There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch ).



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Date: 24 Oct 2006 19:25:35
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:T7mdnUKC8qHjAqPYnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote :
>
>>
>> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:4q7h4dFlighuU1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
>>> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
>>>>> thread
>>>>> you started.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>>>> other
>>>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>>>
>>>> Do you still have that link please?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Coffee Lover
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>>>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
>>> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
>>> Cheers,
>>> Craig.
>>
>> The other is Cora's @ $229 & Eligible for Free Shipping!! See if you
>> qualify, click here . http://www.corainc.com/Details.cfm/ProdID/485
>> Craig.
>>
>>
>
> If one charges $199 plus shipping and another charges $230 with "free"
> shipping, it seems like the shipping isn't exactly "free" then, is it.
> :)
>
> TANSTAAFL ( There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch ).
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover


Hey, I'm just posting what I see! You're welcome...
Craig.



          
Date: 24 Oct 2006 17:28:06
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote :

>
> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>
>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
thread
>>> you started.
>>
>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>> other
>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>
>> Do you still have that link please?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Coffee Lover
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>
>
> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
> Cheers,
> Craig.

Thanks. I'm kinda new to upper end equipment and don't know what to make
of the doser thing yet. Is it good for coffee or espresso grinding or do
you usually just use one on an espresso grinder?




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Date: 24 Oct 2006 17:39:39
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
The Doser vs Doserless debate is a long standing one. If you look at it cup
half full, then just know you'll be happy with whatever one you get. If you
are a cup half empty kind of person, just know that whichever one you get,
you'll think you should have gotten the other one. Truthfully, it doesn't
matter.

Either works fine for either espresso OR normal coffee. It simply doesn't
matter. All a "doser" is a receptacle for the grounds that let's you
release some of them at a time.

Positives for Doser: Much less mess, as grinds don't spray on the
countertop. Also, you can grind the beans while you're preparing the
machine and you don't have to stand there holding a portafiler or other
receptacle yourself.

Negatives for Doser: The doser itself traps some stale grounds, and so is
one more thing to clean now and then.

Personally, I lean a little in favor of the Doser, but I notice that the
webpage says they're temporarily out of the doser model.

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:-ZKdnQNunpXrDqPYnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote :
>
>>
>> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
>> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>>
>>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
> thread
>>>> you started.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>>> other
>>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>>
>>> Do you still have that link please?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Coffee Lover
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>>
>>
>> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
>> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
>> Cheers,
>> Craig.
>
> Thanks. I'm kinda new to upper end equipment and don't know what to make
> of the doser thing yet. Is it good for coffee or espresso grinding or do
> you usually just use one on an espresso grinder?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




            
Date: 24 Oct 2006 17:41:06
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
I should have added that the Dosered Cunill has a tamper on the doser, which
would save you the cost of buying a tamper.

C

"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote in message
news:ehmboe$i3j$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> The Doser vs Doserless debate is a long standing one. If you look at it
> cup half full, then just know you'll be happy with whatever one you get.
> If you are a cup half empty kind of person, just know that whichever one
> you get, you'll think you should have gotten the other one. Truthfully,
> it doesn't matter.
>
> Either works fine for either espresso OR normal coffee. It simply doesn't
> matter. All a "doser" is a receptacle for the grounds that let's you
> release some of them at a time.
>
> Positives for Doser: Much less mess, as grinds don't spray on the
> countertop. Also, you can grind the beans while you're preparing the
> machine and you don't have to stand there holding a portafiler or other
> receptacle yourself.
>
> Negatives for Doser: The doser itself traps some stale grounds, and so is
> one more thing to clean now and then.
>
> Personally, I lean a little in favor of the Doser, but I notice that the
> webpage says they're temporarily out of the doser model.
>
> C
>
> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
> news:-ZKdnQNunpXrDqPYnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@forethought.net...
>> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote :
>>
>>>
>>> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
>>> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
>> thread
>>>>> you started.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>>>> other
>>>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>>>
>>>> Do you still have that link please?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Coffee Lover
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>>>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
>>> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
>>> Cheers,
>>> Craig.
>>
>> Thanks. I'm kinda new to upper end equipment and don't know what to make
>> of the doser thing yet. Is it good for coffee or espresso grinding or do
>> you usually just use one on an espresso grinder?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Coffee Lover
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>
>




             
Date: 24 Oct 2006 21:23:58
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?

"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote in message
news:ehmbr5$i8j$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>I should have added that the Dosered Cunill has a tamper on the doser,
>which would save you the cost of buying a tamper.
>
> C
>

Yeah, it's on my 2nd post to Cora's., she would of seen that..
Craig.



              
Date: 24 Oct 2006 18:48:56
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Gotcha' Craig. As it is, we spent too much time on this particular
conversation.

C

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4q7sldFlqmjhU1@individual.net...
>
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote in message
> news:ehmbr5$i8j$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>I should have added that the Dosered Cunill has a tamper on the doser,
>>which would save you the cost of buying a tamper.
>>
>> C
>>
>
> Yeah, it's on my 2nd post to Cora's., she would of seen that..
> Craig.
>




               
Date: 25 Oct 2006 00:05:09
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Ooops, sorry Cordo, it was actually at the Sovrana Store link, nice
blowup of it here though,
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sovrana_1920_1922579 & the
Stainless looks great! http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/sovrana/tranq2.jpg
Craig.

"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote in message
news:ehmfqc$m49$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> Gotcha' Craig. As it is, we spent too much time on this particular
> conversation.
>
> C
>
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4q7sldFlqmjhU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote in message
>> news:ehmbr5$i8j$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>I should have added that the Dosered Cunill has a tamper on the
>>>doser, which would save you the cost of buying a tamper.
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, it's on my 2nd post to Cora's., she would of seen that..
>> Craig.
>>
>
>



                
Date: 24 Oct 2006 23:00:02
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Yeah, I got the black Mazzer Mini and didn't realize about the differences,
but had I known I definitely would have ponied up the extra dough for the
fully stainless.

C

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4q863jFlp3rqU1@individual.net...
> Ooops, sorry Cordo, it was actually at the Sovrana Store link, nice blowup
> of it here though,
> http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sovrana_1920_1922579 & the
> Stainless looks great! http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/sovrana/tranq2.jpg
> Craig.
>
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote in message
> news:ehmfqc$m49$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>> Gotcha' Craig. As it is, we spent too much time on this particular
>> conversation.
>>
>> C
>>
>> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:4q7sldFlqmjhU1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ehmbr5$i8j$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
>>>>I should have added that the Dosered Cunill has a tamper on the doser,
>>>>which would save you the cost of buying a tamper.
>>>>
>>>> C
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's on my 2nd post to Cora's., she would of seen that..
>>> Craig.
>>>
>>
>>
>




           
Date: 24 Oct 2006 18:33:20
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:-ZKdnQNunpXrDqPYnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote :
>
>>
>> "Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote in message
>> news:ubSdneFNSa06EKPYnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@forethought.net...
>>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>>
>>>> I put the link to the Tranquilo ($199) in my post on the other
> thread
>>>> you started.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, I either missed it or was wrapped up in looking at the
>>> other
>>> ones. I thought they went for $399.
>>>
>>> Do you still have that link please?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Coffee Lover
>>>
>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
>>> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/
>>
>>
>> I'm not Cordo, but here's one of two;
>> http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html
>> Cheers,
>> Craig.
>
> Thanks. I'm kinda new to upper end equipment and don't know what to
> make
> of the doser thing yet. Is it good for coffee or espresso grinding or
> do
> you usually just use one on an espresso grinder?
>
>
>

On my 2nd link, there's a Coffeegeek review button down the page with
lots of reviews.
Craig.



 
Date: 23 Oct 2006 15:05:43
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
I'd get the Gaggia MDF or, as I posted before, a Cunill Astra/Tranquillo.

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:qradnWuonIvuiKDYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@forethought.net...
> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




 
Date: 23 Oct 2006 15:55:33
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
On 2006-10-23, Coffee Lover Girl <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote:

> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199.....

What's going on, here?:

http://www.gaggiashop.com/gagmdfesgrin.html

nb


  
Date: 23 Oct 2006 18:37:07
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote :

> On 2006-10-23, Coffee Lover Girl <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote:
>
>> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199.....
>
> What's going on, here?:
>
> http://www.gaggiashop.com/gagmdfesgrin.html

Wow, what truck did those "fall off the back of"?



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Date: 23 Oct 2006 21:54:23
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote in
news:R8mdnVp8iYTYsaDYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com:

> http://www.gaggiashop.com/gagmdfesgrin.html

Dunno, but I just ordered 10 of them.

Robert (duck & cover) Harmon
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 20:18:22
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
On 2006-10-23, Robert Harmon <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
> Dunno, but I just ordered 10 of them.
>

Howzabout a freebie as a finders fee? ;)

nb


  
Date: 23 Oct 2006 16:16:11
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Did you notice this message above their Gaggia espresso machines?

These machines are no longer available and are listed here for historical
purposes only. If Gaggia aquires a new US distributor then these particular
models may or may not be available at these prices. Most likely, there will
be new US models with new US prices. We are sorry but we can not answer
questions about the availability of Gaggia espresso machines.

But they say the grinders are in stock. The best price I have found for the
MDF was $150. Used models usually go for more than this on e-Bay, often in
the $130-$140 range. Are these reconditioned?

"notbob" <notbob@nothome.com > wrote in message
news:R8mdnVp8iYTYsaDYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> On 2006-10-23, Coffee Lover Girl <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz> wrote:
>
>> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199.....
>
> What's going on, here?:
>
> http://www.gaggiashop.com/gagmdfesgrin.html
>
> nb




   
Date: 23 Oct 2006 16:33:35
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
On 2006-10-23, Harry Moos <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote:

> But they say the grinders are in stock.....

Only the white model. The black model is back ordered, but they say
they expect more and to give them your email addy.

> the $130-$140 range. Are these reconditioned?

Who cares. If I had $130 to spare, I'd buy one.

nb


 
Date: 23 Oct 2006 13:34:02
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:

> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>
>
>

Gaggia MDF. If priced is a killer, try bidding on ebay for a used one.


  
Date: 23 Oct 2006 18:33:47
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
Jim <askme@beforeyousend.com > wrote :

> Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
>
>> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
>> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
>> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Gaggia MDF. If priced is a killer, try bidding on ebay for a used one.
>

Looks like only new ones on Ebay right now, at web store prices. Drat.



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Date: 23 Oct 2006 14:25:16
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Gaggia or Kitchenaid grinder?
The Gaggia MDF. The KitchenAid was vastly overpriced to begin with.

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:qradnWuonIvuiKDYnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@forethought.net...
> If you could get a new Gaggia MDF grinder for $199 or a refurbed
> Kitchenaid Proline grinder for $149, either with free shipping, which
> would you get? Which would you consider the best for the money?
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/