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Date: 06 Sep 2007 15:11:41
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question
Looking at the Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster at
http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.genecafe.shtml

and watching the video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-21754440054705737

I watched it mainly to see how to get the hot roasted coffee beans poured
into the colander. I didn't see it.

The narrator says it is a quiet machine, but you have to really listen to
hear his voice over the music. I'm half-sick trying to listen and had to
fast-forward it for this reason and may have missed it, but I don't think
so. He did two different batches and neither showed removing the hot beans
into the colander.

Any comments welcome.
Dee Dee






 
Date: 08 Sep 2007 15:07:16
From: lockjaw
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question

>
> These are what I use in the kitchen, withstanding heat up to 480=BA, it s=
ays.
> Do you think I would need more?
>
> http://www.rkdm.com/oveglove/
> Thanks.
> Dee


BOY, I would hope not!

dave




 
Date: 07 Sep 2007 10:14:20
From: DavidMLewis
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question
On Sep 6, 2:48 pm, Karl <karlmiltonr...@yahoo.com > wrote:

> 2. You dump the beans by opening the plastic shield, gripping the
> handle on the drum, pushing a button down, and pulling the drum up. If
> you do it before the cooling cycle is over, you'll need a pot holder.

This is only semi-related, but I find an indispensable addition to my
roasting kit to be a pair of "Mechanix" brand gloves from the auto
parts store. They were designed for mechanics working around hot
exhaust systems, and they're excellent for this sort of thing because
they protect against burns while allowing a pretty decent amount of
feel. They also have women's gloves; you can see them at <http://
www.mechanix.com/ >.

Best,
David



  
Date: 07 Sep 2007 21:16:28
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question

"DavidMLewis" <DavidMLewis@mac.com > wrote in message
news:1189185260.420213.19200@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 6, 2:48 pm, Karl <karlmiltonr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 2. You dump the beans by opening the plastic shield, gripping the
>> handle on the drum, pushing a button down, and pulling the drum up. If
>> you do it before the cooling cycle is over, you'll need a pot holder.
>
> This is only semi-related, but I find an indispensable addition to my
> roasting kit to be a pair of "Mechanix" brand gloves from the auto
> parts store. They were designed for mechanics working around hot
> exhaust systems, and they're excellent for this sort of thing because
> they protect against burns while allowing a pretty decent amount of
> feel. They also have women's gloves; you can see them at <http://
> www.mechanix.com/>.
>
> Best,
> David

These are what I use in the kitchen, withstanding heat up to 480, it says.
Do you think I would need more?

http://www.rkdm.com/oveglove/
Thanks.
Dee




 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 14:48:53
From: Karl
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question
On Sep 6, 5:29 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> "DavidMLewis" <DavidMLe...@mac.com> wrote in message
> Regardless of when he was dumping them out (at the end of the cooling cycle,
> or before the cooling cycle), there was no demonstration of 'taking out the
> beans' which I wanted to see.
>
> Regarding your first sentence, are you saying that it is not possible to
> dump the beans at the end of the roasting, but one has to wait until the end
> of the cooling cycle before dumping into a colarnder in this Gene Cafe?
>
> Thanks so much for your reply.
> Dee Dee

1. You can dump the beans whenever you want - you just hit the stop
button if the machine is still on, the machine aligns itself for you
to remove the drum, and you remove the drum. You can do this during
the roasting cycle (i.e., when you set the roast for longer than the
beans actually needed), at the end of the roasting cycle, to cool them
down faster than the cooling cycle does, or when the cooling cycle is
finished. Doing it when the cooling cycle is finished requires you to
allow for the additional roasting which will occur at the beginning of
the cooling cycle when the drum is still hot. Some roasters feel that
the cool down should be faster than what occurs when you use the
cooling cycle, so they dump at the end of the roast. They are probably
right, but I'm pretty satisfied with the results using the cool down
cycle, as long as I remember to start the cool down cycle (which you
can do any time) before the roast is really finished.

2. You dump the beans by opening the plastic shield, gripping the
handle on the drum, pushing a button down, and pulling the drum up. If
you do it before the cooling cycle is over, you'll need a pot holder.
Once out of the roaster, the drum opens by a hinge on one end - you
just point that end down and out come the beans.

3. How quiet the Gene Cafe is depends on what you compare it to. My
Gene Cafe is a whole lot quieter than the I-Roast 2, or the Hearthware
Precision. It's not silent, but it's a big improvement. It's louder
than the Nesco (the old Zach & Danny) but roasts a lot more coffee,
and does it a lot better than my Zach & Danny ever did, at least for
espresso.

Karl



  
Date: 06 Sep 2007 20:55:11
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question

"Karl" <karlmiltonrice@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1189115333.597363.13460@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 6, 5:29 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net> wrote:
>> "DavidMLewis" <DavidMLe...@mac.com> wrote in message
>> Regardless of when he was dumping them out (at the end of the cooling
>> cycle,
>> or before the cooling cycle), there was no demonstration of 'taking out
>> the
>> beans' which I wanted to see.
>>
>> Regarding your first sentence, are you saying that it is not possible to
>> dump the beans at the end of the roasting, but one has to wait until the
>> end
>> of the cooling cycle before dumping into a colarnder in this Gene Cafe?
>>
>> Thanks so much for your reply.
>> Dee Dee
>
> 1. You can dump the beans whenever you want - you just hit the stop
> button if the machine is still on, the machine aligns itself for you
> to remove the drum, and you remove the drum. You can do this during
> the roasting cycle (i.e., when you set the roast for longer than the
> beans actually needed), at the end of the roasting cycle, to cool them
> down faster than the cooling cycle does, or when the cooling cycle is
> finished. Doing it when the cooling cycle is finished requires you to
> allow for the additional roasting which will occur at the beginning of
> the cooling cycle when the drum is still hot. Some roasters feel that
> the cool down should be faster than what occurs when you use the
> cooling cycle, so they dump at the end of the roast. They are probably
> right, but I'm pretty satisfied with the results using the cool down
> cycle, as long as I remember to start the cool down cycle (which you
> can do any time) before the roast is really finished.
>
> 2. You dump the beans by opening the plastic shield, gripping the
> handle on the drum, pushing a button down, and pulling the drum up. If
> you do it before the cooling cycle is over, you'll need a pot holder.
> Once out of the roaster, the drum opens by a hinge on one end - you
> just point that end down and out come the beans.
>
> 3. How quiet the Gene Cafe is depends on what you compare it to. My
> Gene Cafe is a whole lot quieter than the I-Roast 2, or the Hearthware
> Precision. It's not silent, but it's a big improvement. It's louder
> than the Nesco (the old Zach & Danny) but roasts a lot more coffee,
> and does it a lot better than my Zach & Danny ever did, at least for
> espresso.
>
> Karl


Karl, thank you for taking the time to give me this thorough information.
I do appreciate it.
It's saved to file.
Dee Dee




 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 13:04:29
From: DavidMLewis
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question
On Sep 6, 12:11 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> Looking at the Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster at
> http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.genecafe.shtml
>
> and watching the video
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-21754440054705737
>
> I watched it mainly to see how to get the hot roasted coffee beans poured
> into the colander. I didn't see it.
>
The Gene Cafe, like pretty much all home roasters except the Hottop,
cools in the drum itself, which is one of its weaknesses. When the
roast is over, the drum is removed and the beans dumped by hand. Many
people choose, with such machines, to have some separate bean-cooling
arrangement and pull the drum early. It helps to preserve the flavor,
but you deal manually with the resulting extra chaff. If you look at
the end of Tom's tip sheet, he says he just removes the drum at the
end of the cool cycle and dumps the beans into the colander to get
them away from the residual drum heat.

Best,
David



  
Date: 06 Sep 2007 17:29:48
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question

"DavidMLewis" <DavidMLewis@mac.com > wrote in message
news:1189109069.695897.179800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 6, 12:11 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net> wrote:
>> Looking at the Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster at
>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.genecafe.shtml
>>
>> and watching the video
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-21754440054705737
>>
>> I watched it mainly to see how to get the hot roasted coffee beans poured
>> into the colander. I didn't see it.
>>
> The Gene Cafe, like pretty much all home roasters except the Hottop,
> cools in the drum itself, which is one of its weaknesses. When the
> roast is over, the drum is removed and the beans dumped by hand. Many
> people choose, with such machines, to have some separate bean-cooling
> arrangement and pull the drum early. It helps to preserve the flavor,
> but you deal manually with the resulting extra chaff. If you look at
> the end of Tom's tip sheet, he says he just removes the drum at the
> end of the cool cycle and dumps the beans into the colander to get
> them away from the residual drum heat.
>
> Best,
> David

My impression from the video is that he says to dump the beans to cool them
at the end of the roasting cycle, because he doesn't want to have them
sitting and cooking in the still-hot cooling-cycle, which only makes them
cook longer.

Regardless of when he was dumping them out (at the end of the cooling cycle,
or before the cooling cycle), there was no demonstration of 'taking out the
beans' which I wanted to see.

Regarding your first sentence, are you saying that it is not possible to
dump the beans at the end of the roasting, but one has to wait until the end
of the cooling cycle before dumping into a colarnder in this Gene Cafe?

Thanks so much for your reply.
Dee Dee










 
Date: 06 Sep 2007 12:44:43
From:
Subject: Re: Gene Cafe 1/2 pound roaster question
On Sep 6, 3:11 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:


> Any comments welcome.
> Dee Dee

Nice day we're having up here in Connecticut. About 80 degrees, low
humidity, slightly breezy.

Len


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