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Date: 01 Dec 2006 02:36:47
From: Marshall
Subject: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
For those who don't follow the financial news, the U.S. dollar has
been tanking against foreign currencies on fears the housing ket is
taking a nasty spill. It's down 6% against the Euro since July and
dropping fastest in the past week.

Sooooo.... We may be in for substantial price hikes on espresso toys
in 2007. A word to the wise.

shall




 
Date: 02 Dec 2006 19:21:41
From: Heat + Beans
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
Within the last 5 years, my wife and I have spent some extended time in
England (the 200 mile Coast-to-Coast walk), and the Wicklow Way and
Ring of Kerry hikes in Ireland. Pub food was outstanding! The more
rural, the better. People are enormously proud of their local
meats--lamb in particular, and give it careful attention in cooking.
Local garden fruits and the veggies (like home-growns anywhere?) were
superb. Never got quite used to the 3 potato courses served with Irish
dinners, but I'm sure not complaining.

Of course, there's variation, but the food was consistently superior to
entire US states that I've spent some time in. Kentucky and Iowa come
to mind, but there's a bunch of others.
tin


Ken Fox wrote:
> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:LcydnbXGv8qW8-3YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com...
> > There's always been good food in the UK, it was just never British food.
> > It still ain't for the most part.
> >
> > Now there are some people doing good things with local ingredients but the
> > industrial revolution came to the UK food supply a lot sooner than it did
> > elsewhere so they don't have much of a living tradition to build on the
> > way they do in say France or Italy, plus the climate imposes limits on
> > what is available in the way of fresh native ingredients at many times of
> > the year. And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one)
> > leave a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
> > way. And what is being done in a handful of fine dining establishments
> > has yet to trickle down to the average pub where they'll still sell you
> > limp pre-made sandwiches and greasy sausages of mysterious origin. So
> > you're much better off in the curry shop.
> >
> >
>
> If you spend any time with average British people, you won't find that they
> dine in these excellent restaurants and you will find that they eat the sort
> of "British food" that has been parodied forever. That having been said,
> the average American eats reprehensible stuff, and considers Cheez Whiz to
> be something special, reserved for celebratory occasions. Even shall
> eats it from time to time:-)
>
> ken



 
Date: 01 Dec 2006 09:43:40
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
> Bit out of date! London GB - as Glasgow, Edinburgh and
> even, I hear tell, Cardiff - are these days cities at
> a peak of culinary achievement and full representative
> of the best in world haute-cuisine.
>
> They represent a diverse and wonderful array of menus
> that will delicately tickle the tastebuds... :))


All these venues are located in London Below. Consult Neal Gaiman for
travel instructions.



 
Date: 01 Dec 2006 04:14:47
From: Bill (Adopt)
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
In article <c35vm2p7kp9m3qd7v6akqden9tirrtlrnn@4ax.com >,
shall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:

[..]
> Sooooo.... We may be in for substantial price hikes on espresso toys
> in 2007. A word to the wise.

Yes, thank you.. also includes we on this side
of the pond..

..with a slight hike of around +0.25pc with another
possibly waiting in the wings, production costs might
also increase slightly..??

Bill ZFC

--
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Domain Host Orpheus Internet -=- http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/


  
Date: 01 Dec 2006 07:17:15
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:14:47 +0000 (GMT), "Bill (Adopt)"
<adopt@billsimpson.com > wrote:

>In article <c35vm2p7kp9m3qd7v6akqden9tirrtlrnn@4ax.com>,
> shall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote:
>
>[..]
>> Sooooo.... We may be in for substantial price hikes on espresso toys
>> in 2007. A word to the wise.
>
>Yes, thank you.. also includes we on this side
>of the pond..
>
>..with a slight hike of around +0.25pc with another
>possibly waiting in the wings, production costs might
>also increase slightly..??
>
>Bill ZFC

How so? Brits are already booking U.S. shopping sprees for Christmas.
(We'll trade you condos for pretty beads.)

shall


   
Date: 01 Dec 2006 00:30:12
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
"shall" <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote in message
news:uilvm2tabe5072redsjupi8at4559ghmsd@4ax.com...
> >
> How so? Brits are already booking U.S. shopping sprees for Christmas.
> (We'll trade you condos for pretty beads.)
>
> shall

there's an article about just this topic in tomorrow's Wall St. Journal
(available now online) with particular reference to the Mall of America in
Minneapolis, to which they flock. Of course, Britain is one of the few
places you could come from where you'd find the food in the Mall of America
to be attractive:-)




    
Date: 01 Dec 2006 13:26:51
From: Bill (Adopt)
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
In article <4ta404F12tt67U1@mid.individual.net >,
Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@Hotmail.com > wrote:
> "shall" <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uilvm2tabe5072redsjupi8at4559ghmsd@4ax.com...
> > >
> > How so? Brits are already booking U.S. shopping sprees for Christmas.
> > (We'll trade you condos for pretty beads.)
> >
> > shall

> there's an article about just this topic in tomorrow's Wall St. Journal
> (available now online) with particular reference to the Mall of America in
> Minneapolis, to which they flock. Of course, Britain is one of the few
> places you could come from where you'd find the food in the Mall of America
> to be attractive:-)

Bit out of date! London GB - as Glasgow, Edinburgh and
even, I hear tell, Cardiff - are these days cities at
a peak of culinary achievement and full representative
of the best in world haute-cuisine.

They represent a diverse and wonderful array of menus
that will delicately tickle the tastebuds... :))

Of course, one reason for interest rate hikes at this
time of year, is the expensive Haggis breeding season,
which formally ends on the brae 25th of the first when,
to honour Rabbie Burns, the Haggis is piped to tables
throughout the Northern Reaches ..with whuskey ..and the
most exquisite coffee..

;))

Bill ZFC

'Mall of USA'.. is that a Charbucks..? ;))

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Domain Host Orpheus Internet -=- http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/


     
Date: 01 Dec 2006 13:01:46
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
There's always been good food in the UK, it was just never British food. It
still ain't for the most part.

Now there are some people doing good things with local ingredients but the
industrial revolution came to the UK food supply a lot sooner than it did
elsewhere so they don't have much of a living tradition to build on the way
they do in say France or Italy, plus the climate imposes limits on what is
available in the way of fresh native ingredients at many times of the year.
And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave a lot to
be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible way. And what is
being done in a handful of fine dining establishments has yet to trickle
down to the average pub where they'll still sell you limp pre-made
sandwiches and greasy sausages of mysterious origin. So you're much better
off in the curry shop.




"Bill (Adopt)" <adopt@billsimpson.com > wrote in message
news:4e8e6b3ac1adopt@billsimpson.com...
> In article <4ta404F12tt67U1@mid.individual.net>,
> Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "shall" <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:uilvm2tabe5072redsjupi8at4559ghmsd@4ax.com...
>> > >
>> > How so? Brits are already booking U.S. shopping sprees for Christmas.
>> > (We'll trade you condos for pretty beads.)
>> >
>> > shall
>
>> there's an article about just this topic in tomorrow's Wall St. Journal
>> (available now online) with particular reference to the Mall of America
>> in
>> Minneapolis, to which they flock. Of course, Britain is one of the few
>> places you could come from where you'd find the food in the Mall of
>> America
>> to be attractive:-)
>
> Bit out of date! London GB - as Glasgow, Edinburgh and
> even, I hear tell, Cardiff - are these days cities at
> a peak of culinary achievement and full representative
> of the best in world haute-cuisine.
>
> They represent a diverse and wonderful array of menus
> that will delicately tickle the tastebuds... :))
>
> Of course, one reason for interest rate hikes at this
> time of year, is the expensive Haggis breeding season,
> which formally ends on the brae 25th of the first when,
> to honour Rabbie Burns, the Haggis is piped to tables
> throughout the Northern Reaches ..with whuskey ..and the
> most exquisite coffee..
>
> ;))
>
> Bill ZFC
>
> 'Mall of USA'.. is that a Charbucks..? ;))
>
> --
> Adoption InterLink UK with -=- http://www.billsimpson.com/
> Domain Host Orpheus Internet -=- http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/




      
Date: 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave
> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
> way.

What does haggis leave to be desired?

What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?

regards, Ian SMith
--


       
Date: 02 Dec 2006 21:25:05
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
Taste? Nutrition?

Really though I can't think of any thing more healthful and tasty than a
boiled sheep's stomach stuffed with oatmeal, chopped up innards and fat.


Now sometimes the cuisine of poverty (what Italian's call the "fifth
quarter") makes for some fine eating - witness say the Feijoada of Brasil.
But this isn't one of those times.



"Ian Smith" <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote in message
news:slrnen16rm.6se.ian@acheron.smithnet...
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave
>> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
>> way.
>
> What does haggis leave to be desired?
>
> What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
> things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
> regards, Ian SMith
> --
>


        
Date: 03 Dec 2006 08:30:17
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:
> Taste? Nutrition?
>
> Really though I can't think of any thing more healthful and tasty than a
> boiled sheep's stomach stuffed with oatmeal, chopped up innards and fat.

Oatmeal is pretty good nutritionally.

All sausage-like things have traditionally been made in stomach or
something similar from the alimentary canal. Besides, you need not
eat the skin if you don't like it.

'Chopped up innards' equally eliminates all other meat product, all of
which is chopped up innards. Besides, the only major content that I
probably wouldn't eat individually is the lungs, and american haggis
doesn't contain the lungs anyway.

Haggis is not particularly high in fat, again, compared to pretty much
any other sausage.

So actually, unless you are vegetarian, all your objections are
nonsense. Taste is obviously a matter of opinion - some people don't
like the pepperiness.

regards, Ian SMith
--


       
Date: 02 Dec 2006 02:40:24
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave
>> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
>> way.
>
>What does haggis leave to be desired?
>
>What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
>regards, Ian SMith

And here I was thinking immigrants were the most enthusiastic
patriots.

For the older traditional foods you could start with apple pie
(actually any fruit pie), jambalaya, barbeque, dirty rice, clam
chowder, or sourdough bread.

But, in truth, there are very few "purely" indigenous foods around the
world. Recipes have crossed borders for centuries, and often returned
having been enriched by their time abroad. Today in Bangkok you can
find restaurants that feature Thai/American dishes that were invented
in L.A.'s Thai Town. The ubiquitous rice served on platters in Mexico,
first appeared in L.A.'s El Cholo.

"California cuisine" had its roots in France's nouvelle cuisine, but
developed in a different style with local ingredients in Berkeley,
then spread around the U.S. and beyond.

If you want to read an in-depth historical treatment of American
cookery, you might spend a month or so with the "Oxford Encyclopedia
of Food and Drink in America" (2 volumes) or a week or so with one of
James Beard's books.

Or you could come down to the L.A. Downtown Library the second
Saturday each month, where the Culinary Historians of Southern
California meets. We get world-renowned speakers. I reported on Jerry
Baldwin's talk a couple of years ago on the beginnings of specialty
coffee on the West Coast.

shall


        
Date: 02 Dec 2006 08:29:43
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Sat, 02 Dec, shall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:
> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
> >things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
> And here I was thinking immigrants were the most enthusiastic
> patriots.

Eh? I don't understand this comment, I have never emigrated anywhere,
and I'm certainly not a usaian patriot

regards, Ian SMith
--


         
Date: 02 Dec 2006 09:02:09
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
"Ian Smith" <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote in message
news:slrnen2ebj.8b1.ian@acheron.smithnet...
> On Sat, 02 Dec, shall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>> >things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>>
>> And here I was thinking immigrants were the most enthusiastic
>> patriots.
>
> Eh? I don't understand this comment, I have never emigrated anywhere,
> and I'm certainly not a usaian patriot
>
> regards, Ian SMith
> --
>


          
Date: 02 Dec 2006 20:37:44
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 09:02:09 -0700, "Ken Fox"
<morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com > wrote:

>we have 2 Ians on this board and I can see how shall got confused. Such
>has befallen me also, from time to time.
>


but only one was prime minister of rhodesia.



           
Date: 02 Dec 2006 15:03:12
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
"Barry Jarrett" <barry@rileys-coffee.com > wrote in message
news:qso3n2t7e87bj3vbel7spnm4fu19l5aqs2@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 09:02:09 -0700, "Ken Fox"
> <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >we have 2 Ians on this board and I can see how shall got confused.
> >Such
> >has befallen me also, from time to time.
> >
>
>
> but only one was prime minister of rhodesia.
>

I thought he got eaten in the end




       
Date: 01 Dec 2006 19:26:29
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

"Ian Smith" <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote in message
news:slrnen16rm.6se.ian@acheron.smithnet...
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave
>> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
>> way.
>
> What does haggis leave to be desired?
>
> What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
> things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
> regards, Ian SMith
> --
>


        
Date: 02 Dec 2006 01:16:15
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4tbvhhF12sv49U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Ian Smith" <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrnen16rm.6se.ian@acheron.smithnet...
>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one) leave
>>> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
>>> way.
>>
>> What does haggis leave to be desired?
>>
>> What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>> things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>>
>> regards, Ian SMith
>> --
>>


         
Date: 01 Dec 2006 20:22:37
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

"Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:zt4ch.17571$9v5.9834@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4tbvhhF12sv49U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Ian Smith" <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:slrnen16rm.6se.ian@acheron.smithnet...
>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Jack Denver <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one)
>>>> leave
>>>> a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
>>>> way.
>>>
>>> What does haggis leave to be desired?
>>>
>>> What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>>> things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>>>
>>> regards, Ian SMith
>>> --
>>>


       
Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:47:36
From:
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote:

>What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
>regards, Ian SMith


Turkey. Cranberry. Pecan. Huckleberry. Wild Rice.

Corn (maize) is meso-american, not a USA-native (although it was grown
by native north americans at the time of the european invasion). If
you want to go there, the list gets more interesting, starting with
Chilies and Chocolate. Would be a dreary life, indeed, without chilies
or chocolate.

Now, where was it that I just read someone's parenthetical that the
cuisine of the USA is essentially Italian?


        
Date: 02 Dec 2006 08:25:06
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:47:36 -0800, Rogue Ja <Rogue > wrote:
> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
> >things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>
> Turkey. Cranberry. Pecan. Huckleberry. Wild Rice.

None of which are culinary specialities, all of which are simply
native foodstuffs.

> Corn (maize) is meso-american, not a USA-native

OK, so you haven't even got what I thought you had.

regards, Ian SMith
--


        
Date: 02 Dec 2006 00:08:53
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

<Rogue Ja > wrote in message
news:94f1n2h6n291hq7qv8fhbr2fele6fm65sg@4ax.com...
> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>What USA-native traditional specialities actually exist? Various
>>things to do with corn, and that's about it, isn't it?
>>
>>regards, Ian SMith
>
>
> Turkey. Cranberry. Pecan. Huckleberry. Wild Rice.
>
> Corn (maize) is meso-american, not a USA-native (although it was grown
> by native north americans at the time of the european invasion). If
> you want to go there, the list gets more interesting, starting with
> Chilies and Chocolate. Would be a dreary life, indeed, without chilies
> or chocolate.

Yah, but you need to distinguish between "food items" and "dishes".
Although turkey, cranberry, pecan, huckleberry, corn, chocolate, tomatoes,
chiles, etc, may have North American or Meso-American origins, current US
methods of preparation have totally European origins. Traditional Native
North American cuisine can hardly be described as "haute", unless you like
things acorn mush, corn gruel, and roasted squash . . .




         
Date: 02 Dec 2006 08:23:09
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:08:53 GMT, "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>Yah, but you need to distinguish between "food items" and "dishes".
>Although turkey, cranberry, pecan, huckleberry, corn, chocolate, tomatoes,
>chiles, etc, may have North American or Meso-American origins, current US
>methods of preparation have totally European origins.

Well, plenty of techniques from Asia, Africa and the Middle East are
important here, too. But, I'll take your main point that modern
American cooking techniques take much more from Europe than from
pre-Columbian America.

shall


         
Date: 02 Dec 2006 07:35:00
From: Donn Cave
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
Quoth "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com >:
...


         
Date: 01 Dec 2006 20:22:16
From:
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 00:08:53 GMT, "Alan" <in_flagrante@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>chiles, etc, may have North American or Meso-American origins, current US
>methods of preparation have totally European origins.
>


Totally? That so? Stop by if you're ever in the neighborhood and I'll
make you some miso soup with avocado and soba noodles.





       
Date: 01 Dec 2006 22:08:24
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote:

>What does haggis leave to be desired?

Not a bleedin' thing, especially when served with neeps and tatties
and drenched wi' a dram o' malt.



        
Date: 01 Dec 2006 18:12:43
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

"I- >Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:s591n2phlol70fa82u6uljqs9akdr0bi9v@4ax.com...
> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>What does haggis leave to be desired?
>
> Not a bleedin' thing, especially when served with neeps and tatties
> and drenched wi' a dram o' malt.
>

YEE HAA!!, now yer talkin'! Ode To A Haggis by Robbie Burns, click on
listen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/burnsnight/images/poetry/listen.gif

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Ode+to+the+Haggis&spell=1

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&q=robert+burns

Craig.



         
Date: 01 Dec 2006 18:17:18
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4tbr77F13b2qjU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "I->Ian" <someone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:s591n2phlol70fa82u6uljqs9akdr0bi9v@4ax.com...
>> On 01 Dec 2006 21:15:38 GMT, Ian Smith <ian@astounding.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>What does haggis leave to be desired?
>>
>> Not a bleedin' thing, especially when served with neeps and tatties
>> and drenched wi' a dram o' malt.
>>
>
> YEE HAA!!, now yer talkin'! Ode To A Haggis by Robbie Burns, click on
> listen:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/burnsnight/images/poetry/listen.gif
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Ode+to+the+Haggis&spell=1
>
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-01,GGLD:en&q=robert+burns
>
> Craig.
>

Haha, that'd be:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/burnsnight/poetry/haggis.shtml ,
not the gif! {;-)
Craig.



      
Date: 01 Dec 2006 20:20:54
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 13:01:46 -0500, "Jack Denver"
<nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

>be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible way. And what is
>being done in a handful of fine dining establishments has yet to trickle
>down to the average pub where they'll still sell you limp pre-made
>sandwiches and greasy sausages of mysterious origin. So you're much better
>off in the curry shop.
>


i miss proper pasties and clotted cream w/splits.



      
Date: 01 Dec 2006 11:50:08
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:LcydnbXGv8qW8-3YnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com...
> There's always been good food in the UK, it was just never British food.
> It still ain't for the most part.
>
> Now there are some people doing good things with local ingredients but the
> industrial revolution came to the UK food supply a lot sooner than it did
> elsewhere so they don't have much of a living tradition to build on the
> way they do in say France or Italy, plus the climate imposes limits on
> what is available in the way of fresh native ingredients at many times of
> the year. And some of the traditional specialties (your haggis for one)
> leave a lot to be desired even if they are prepared in the best possible
> way. And what is being done in a handful of fine dining establishments
> has yet to trickle down to the average pub where they'll still sell you
> limp pre-made sandwiches and greasy sausages of mysterious origin. So
> you're much better off in the curry shop.
>
>

If you spend any time with average British people, you won't find that they
dine in these excellent restaurants and you will find that they eat the sort
of "British food" that has been parodied forever. That having been said,
the average American eats reprehensible stuff, and considers Cheez Whiz to
be something special, reserved for celebratory occasions. Even shall
eats it from time to time:-)

ken




       
Date: 01 Dec 2006 15:27:23
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
Ken Fox wrote:
and considers Cheez Whiz to
> be something special, reserved for celebratory occasions. Even shall
> eats it from time to time:-)
>

The smoky kind in the spray can but only on a Ritz.

R "yum" TF


        
Date: 01 Dec 2006 21:44:41
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:27:23 -0500, Moka Java <rtwatches@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Ken Fox wrote:
> and considers Cheez Whiz to
>> be something special, reserved for celebratory occasions. Even shall
>> eats it from time to time:-)
>>
>
>The smoky kind in the spray can but only on a Ritz.


smoky is yummy, but i like it on a triscuit, too.


and making skyscrapers of wheat thins with cheese whiz mortar...... :)


--barry "ah... college"


     
Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:59:39
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:26:51 +0000 (GMT), "Bill (Adopt)"
<adopt@billsimpson.com > wrote:

>Bit out of date! London GB - as Glasgow, Edinburgh and
>even, I hear tell, Cardiff - are these days cities at
>a peak of culinary achievement and full representative
>of the best in world haute-cuisine.

Another thought. My wife and I catch quite a bit of British TV on BBC
America (mostly non-BBC, interestingly). We've been noticing how the
programs use coffee and tea as cultural signifiers, intentionally or
not. Coffee = young, dynamic and upscale (especially when brewed in a
cafetiere). Tea = old or downscale. We also see more scenes shot in
coffee bars than in pubs (the hissing of an espresso machine is a
common part of the soundtrack).

The MP or DCI have a cappuccino in a coffee bar, then later visit
granny, who's having a cuppa at home.

shall


     
Date: 01 Dec 2006 17:10:27
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:26:51 +0000 (GMT), "Bill (Adopt)"
<adopt@billsimpson.com > wrote:

>In article <4ta404F12tt67U1@mid.individual.net>,
> Ken Fox <morceaudemerdeThisMerdeGoes@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "shall" <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:uilvm2tabe5072redsjupi8at4559ghmsd@4ax.com...
>> > >
>> > How so? Brits are already booking U.S. shopping sprees for Christmas.
>> > (We'll trade you condos for pretty beads.)
>> >
>> > shall
>
>> there's an article about just this topic in tomorrow's Wall St. Journal
>> (available now online) with particular reference to the Mall of America in
>> Minneapolis, to which they flock. Of course, Britain is one of the few
>> places you could come from where you'd find the food in the Mall of America
>> to be attractive:-)
>
>Bit out of date! London GB - as Glasgow, Edinburgh and
>even, I hear tell, Cardiff - are these days cities at
>a peak of culinary achievement and full representative
>of the best in world haute-cuisine.

It's not Ken's fault. Ken does his best to keep up with cultural
changes in Britain by watching "Best of Monty Python" during Public
Television pledge drives.

shall


 
Date: 30 Nov 2006 21:26:46
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Good time to buy shiny Italian toys
In article <c35vm2p7kp9m3qd7v6akqden9tirrtlrnn@4ax.com >,
shall <mrfuss@ihatespamearthlink.net > wrote:

> For those who don't follow the financial news, the U.S. dollar has
> been tanking against foreign currencies on fears the housing ket is
> taking a nasty spill. It's down 6% against the Euro since July and
> dropping fastest in the past week.
>
> Sooooo.... We may be in for substantial price hikes on espresso toys
> in 2007. A word to the wise.
>
> shall

Please don't say that out loud! ;-)

I'm busy searching for a new toy as I type. My list keeps growing with
excellent stuff.

Like the Bric, some Expobars (don't know much about these), and a couple
from QuickMill.