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Date: 06 Jun 2007 14:55:09
From: Tink
Subject: Help, are my Beans bad?

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I did a lot of research before I started buying roasted coffee beans
online. I have found a wonderful company to buy from. I started buying
from them this past winter. However, now that it's getting hot here in
the south where I live, should I stop buying them online? My coffee
arrived today and the box was really hot from being in the UPS truck.
All the info I have read online is to keep your fresh roasted beans away
from light, and heat. My question is are my beans bad now? Please don't
suggest that I roast my own beans because I don't have the time or the
funds to do that. Also, I don't drive and I live in a small town where
there is no local roaster. I really don't want to go back to supermarket
coffee again. Your help would be much appreciated.
You may email me or post here.
Thanks,


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Date: 07 Jun 2007 16:14:07
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Jun 7, 11:54 am, Calvin <mandtpr...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> I'll definitely second Michael's assertion that roasting your own is
> no big deal. I throw 12 ounces of green in the wok on Friday or
> Saturday and 30 minutes later I have my stash for the week. That's 30
> minutes TOTAL, which includes setup, roasting, cooling, bagging and
> cleanup. Just like brewing and espresso, roasting is only as big a
> production as you make it :-).

How's chaff work in a wok? Leave it, not bother, does it separate
from the beans and get mixed in with the grind for no effect on
taste? I've an air popper w/ chaff-collector top that goes under the
kitchen range hood fan, and by the time it's done most of the chaff is
removed. 12oz. otoh isn't bad for a single batch.



 
Date: 07 Jun 2007 13:58:27
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Jun 7, 2:13 pm, Tink0...@webtv.net (Tink) wrote:
> >My coffee arrived today and the box was really hot
> >from being in the UPS truck. All the info I >>have read online is to
>
> keep your fresh roasted beans
> >>away from light, and heat
>
> I forgot to mention that the Roasted Coffee Beans that I bought were
> Flavored Beans. I made a pot of coffee this morning and it tasted great
> the same as usual. So I guess the heat didn't affect the taste of the
> Flavored beans..Btw, I live in Northern TN, not to far from the KY line.
> I found a new source to buy my beans from during the summertime. Their
> in GA. I called them and they told me that since I live so close that
> even with UPS Ground shipping, my coffee would be here the next day, As
> long as I order early when they open they will be roasted and shipped
> the same day. That will help a lot when I buy regular coffee beans when
> it's so hot. In case anyone wants to know the company is CoffeeAm. A
> friend told me about them and told me there coffee is great. I don't
> know if they sell green beans or not though.
> One more question? How many people in the group freeze their Roasted
> Coffee Beans? I am talking about buying from a company in bulk. I am the
> only one who drinks coffee in my home. I buy 5 pounds at a time because
> it's cheaper. I divide them into weekly portions I buy extra coffee
> bags to do this. I then wrap them in plastic wrap , put in large freezer
> bags, suck all the air out with a straw, seal then freeze. I know there
> will be some of you who will not agree with this . However, it works
> great for me. I can't tell any difference between the first portion that
> I don't freeze and the last bag that I take out of the freezer at the
> end of the month. I did this during the winter. Hopefully, it will work
> with the beans I got yesterday also.
> Thanks to all of you who answered my post. I am glad I found this
> group, I will be back if I ever need anymore help!
>
> Drink Up,
> Tink

I pulled some out that had been in the freezer for over three months,
and the beans had turned stale. Probably from a 15lb. order, so I
wouldn't consider freezing ordering another 15lb unless giving up
roasting. Actually marginally drinkable (threw out what was left,
anyway), only without more distinction than a can of Lavazza, I
recently opened (doubt I keep that, either) -- neither being as tasty
as home roast (mostly Latin American sourced).

A month frozen shouldn't matter. That's with a motorized vacuum
sealer and a common (non-vacuum specific) freezer bag -- Hefty or Glad
or whatever freezer-intended brand Walmart carries. The bulk meats
I've processed with a slicer have held their vacuum much longer and
remain nicely stored.



 
Date: 07 Jun 2007 13:13:10
From: Tink
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
>My coffee arrived today and the box was really hot
>from being in the UPS truck. All the info I >>have read online is to
keep your fresh roasted beans
>>away from light, and heat

I forgot to mention that the Roasted Coffee Beans that I bought were
Flavored Beans. I made a pot of coffee this morning and it tasted great
the same as usual. So I guess the heat didn't affect the taste of the
Flavored beans..Btw, I live in Northern TN, not to far from the KY line.
I found a new source to buy my beans from during the summertime. Their
in GA. I called them and they told me that since I live so close that
even with UPS Ground shipping, my coffee would be here the next day, As
long as I order early when they open they will be roasted and shipped
the same day. That will help a lot when I buy regular coffee beans when
it's so hot. In case anyone wants to know the company is CoffeeAm. A
friend told me about them and told me there coffee is great. I don't
know if they sell green beans or not though.
One more question? How many people in the group freeze their Roasted
Coffee Beans? I am talking about buying from a company in bulk. I am the
only one who drinks coffee in my home. I buy 5 pounds at a time because
it's cheaper. I divide them into weekly portions I buy extra coffee
bags to do this. I then wrap them in plastic wrap , put in large freezer
bags, suck all the air out with a straw, seal then freeze. I know there
will be some of you who will not agree with this . However, it works
great for me. I can't tell any difference between the first portion that
I don't freeze and the last bag that I take out of the freezer at the
end of the month. I did this during the winter. Hopefully, it will work
with the beans I got yesterday also.
Thanks to all of you who answered my post. I am glad I found this
group, I will be back if I ever need anymore help!

Drink Up,
Tink



  
Date: 08 Jun 2007 01:24:23
From: B. Wright
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
Tink <Tink0952@webtv.net > wrote:
> >My coffee arrived today and the box was really hot
> >from being in the UPS truck. All the info I >>have read online is to
> keep your fresh roasted beans
> >>away from light, and heat

> I forgot to mention that the Roasted Coffee Beans that I bought were
> Flavored Beans. I made a pot of coffee this morning and it tasted great
> the same as usual. So I guess the heat didn't affect the taste of the
>

If you're drinking that chemically flavored coffee then I think
the original question doesn't really much matter. I'm not sure what
they used to flavor that, but it all tastes like crap to me, fresh or
not.



  
Date: 07 Jun 2007 12:00:09
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:13:10 -0500, Tink0952@webtv.net (Tink) wrote:

>How many people in the group freeze their Roasted
>Coffee Beans?

At Home-Bariata, a good paper on freezing by Ken Fox.
http://tinyurl.com/2bdquw


 
Date: 07 Jun 2007 15:54:01
From: Calvin
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Jun 6, 9:51 pm, Michael Sisson <n...@no.com > wrote:
> In article <27820-4667111D-...@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>, Tink0952
> @webtv.net says...
>
> > Please don't
> > suggest that I roast my own beans because I don't have the time or the
> > funds to do that.
>
> I spend about 15 mins maximum each Friday roasting three/four days worth
> of green with a cheap heatgun/small metal dog bowl/metal spoon/oven
> glove/vegetable steamer/small fan ensemble.
>
> I love the weekends.
>
> I work in a truck that is similar to a UPS truck. They are 10-15 degrees
> (C) hotter inside the truck than outside. Especially on sunny days.
>
> You should just order green beans in the summer.

I know you are joking at the end, but I'll chime in anyway. Consider
the absolute torture that the greens go through on the trip from
origin to roaster. There's no way that a few days in a box in a truck
is going to alter how greens taste after they've spent MONTHS in a sea-
container in the sun.

I'll definitely second Michael's assertion that roasting your own is
no big deal. I throw 12 ounces of green in the wok on Friday or
Saturday and 30 minutes later I have my stash for the week. That's 30
minutes TOTAL, which includes setup, roasting, cooling, bagging and
cleanup. Just like brewing and espresso, roasting is only as big a
production as you make it :-).

Matthew



 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 21:51:46
From: Michael Sisson
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
In article <27820-4667111D-708@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net >, Tink0952
@webtv.net says...
> Please don't
> suggest that I roast my own beans because I don't have the time or the
> funds to do that.

I spend about 15 mins maximum each Friday roasting three/four days worth
of green with a cheap heatgun/small metal dog bowl/metal spoon/oven
glove/vegetable steamer/small fan ensemble.

I love the weekends.

I work in a truck that is similar to a UPS truck. They are 10-15 degrees
(C) hotter inside the truck than outside. Especially on sunny days.

You should just order green beans in the summer. In the time they spend
on the UPS truck they should be pretty much roasted. Just tell the
driver to get to your front door 10-20 seconds or so after he hears the
beginning of 2nd crack.

;)


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Date: 06 Jun 2007 21:16:26
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
Howdy Tink!
The beans didn't benefit from being left in the sun but I doubt the damage
was significant. However, if you believe the damage to be noticeable ask the
UPS driver to leave them somewhere else in the future. I have a placard on
my front door stating that no deliveries are to left on the porch; if
packages fit I have a receptacle for them they get left there - if not I
have the packages redelivered.

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Date: 06 Jun 2007 14:54:51
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:16:26 GMT, "Robert Harmon"
<r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote:

>if not I
>have the packages redelivered.

So they ride around for another day @ 100F


 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 14:14:14
From: Karl
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
> from light, and heat. My question is are my beans bad now? Please don't
> suggest that I roast my own beans because I don't have the time or the
> funds to do that. Also, I don't drive and I live in a small town where
> there is no local roaster. I really don't want to go back to supermarket
> coffee again. Your help would be much appreciated.

Assuming you're unsatisfied with how the coffee tastes after heating
up on the truck, whereabouts do you live? There may be a roaster
nearer than your current supplier from whom you can get the coffee
faster. If there is, someone on this newsgroup will probably know.

In the alternative, your current supplier may, for a fee, be willing
to ship overnight, which will reduce the time spent in the truck.

Good luck.

Karl "used to live in Macon, GA and shares your pain" Rice



 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 16:40:31
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:55:09 -0500, Tink0952@webtv.net (Tink) wrote:

> My coffee
>arrived today and the box was really hot from being in the UPS truck.
>All the info I have read online is to keep your fresh roasted beans away
>from light, and heat. My question is are my beans bad now?

Brew some. Taste it. Are you happy with the result?

>Tink

Make that: "T[h]ink"

-- Larry


 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 20:30:53
From: Calvin
Subject: Re: Help, are my Beans bad?
On Jun 6, 2:55 pm, Tink0...@webtv.net (Tink) wrote:
> I did a lot of research before I started buying roasted coffee beans
> online. I have found a wonderful company to buy from. I started buying
> from them this past winter. However, now that it's getting hot here in
> the south where I live, should I stop buying them online? My coffee
> arrived today and the box was really hot from being in the UPS truck.
> All the info I have read online is to keep your fresh roasted beans away
> from light, and heat. My question is are my beans bad now? Please don't
> suggest that I roast my own beans because I don't have the time or the
> funds to do that. Also, I don't drive and I live in a small town where
> there is no local roaster. I really don't want to go back to supermarket
> coffee again. Your help would be much appreciated.
> You may email me or post here.
> Thanks,
>
> Tink

Well, how do they taste? They probably suffered less at the hands of
the UPS chain than those in the bin at the supermarket. It takes a
lot longer to get to the bottom of the supermarket chute.

Calvin