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Date: 08 Mar 2007 16:07:56
From:
Subject: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!
Hi all,

I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would decline
very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature drops
by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F, the
PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it? Thanks!





 
Date: 11 Mar 2007 18:42:33
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!

<blee52560@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1173398876.005096.218390@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
> ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
> When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would decline
> very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
> 145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature drops
> by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F, the
> PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
> nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
> decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
> this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it? Thanks!
>

I posted an answer for you here:
http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/286025#286025 Byron.
Craig.



  
Date: 25 Mar 2007 20:12:36
From: seastl
Subject: Re: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!
On Sun, 11 2007 18:42:33 -0400, "Craig Andrews"
<alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote:

>
><blee52560@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1173398876.005096.218390@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
>> ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
>> When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would decline
>> very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
>> 145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature drops
>> by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F, the
>> PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
>> nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
>> decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
>> this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it? Thanks!
>>
>
>I posted an answer for you here:
>http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/286025#286025 Byron.

Do you recall where you picked up your 150C steam thermo?

Brad


   
Date: 25 Mar 2007 21:21:39
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!

"seastl >" <<reserved@later.date.com> wrote in message
news:130e7f48q3gba99@news.supernews.com...
> On Sun, 11 2007 18:42:33 -0400, "Craig Andrews"
> <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><blee52560@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1173398876.005096.218390@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
>>> ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
>>> When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would
>>> decline
>>> very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
>>> 145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature
>>> drops
>>> by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F,
>>> the
>>> PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
>>> nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
>>> decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
>>> this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>>I posted an answer for you here:
>>http://www.coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/286025#286025
>>Byron.
>
> Do you recall where you picked up your 150C steam thermo?
>
> Brad


Yep, look further down in the threads: Re: Silvia 110 thermostat
Craig.



 
Date: 08 Mar 2007 17:46:35
From:
Subject: Re: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!
On 8, 8:44 pm, JimG <jggal...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 8 2007 16:07:56 -0800, blee52...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
>
> >I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
> >ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
> >When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would decline
> >very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
> >145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature drops
> >by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F, the
> >PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
> >nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
> >decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
> >this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it? Thanks!
>
> When you start steaming at 293F/145C, is the heater still on?
>
> Jim

Yes - still firing away.

B



 
Date: 08 Mar 2007 20:44:33
From: JimG
Subject: Re: Help with Rancilio Silvia - Steaming Problem!
On 8 2007 16:07:56 -0800, blee52560@hotmail.com wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I bought my Silvia around 6 years ago and installed a PID 3 years
>ago. Haven't had any problems since then until about 1 year ago.
>When I was steaming milk, I noticed that the steam power would decline
>very rapidly. Looking on the PID, I would start steaming at around
>145C. I wouldn't even open it up full blast and the temperature drops
>by more than 1 degree per second - by the time my milk is at 100F, the
>PID would read 125C or so. Certainly not enough power to create a
>nice vortex. I've tried flushing the machine with tons of water,
>decalcified it several times, etc. but to no avail. Has anyone had
>this problem? How would I go about diagnosing and fixing it? Thanks!

When you start steaming at 293F/145C, is the heater still on?

Jim