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Date: 12 Aug 2007 01:13:56
From: Ed
Subject: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
I have a Silvia (PID) and Rocky at work and I want to get another
setup at home. The Sivlia/Rocky was a huge step up from a krups and
whirly grinder. I have no complaints with the Silvia/Rocky, but for my
home setup, I am ready to take the next step and go all the way or
near to the top.

I am considering the Andreja Premium by Quick Mill and Mazzer Mini
Electronic Doserless Espresso Grinder (Type A). Is this a good
choice? Is this the top or near top when it comes to HX machines?

I am unclear of the double-boiler status for home use. I have read
that they are not sufficiently powered, but then I read about the new
La Spaziale Vivaldi II Single Group Dual Boiler. I am not sure I want
to plumb in a system, but maybe I should go all the way.

So my questions:

(1) is the Andreja/Mazzer a great choice assuming I do not want to
plumb in a system?

(2) Should I go all the way with the Vivaldi?

(3) Maybe there is a better choice?

I am interested in a variety of uses (expresso, latte, cappucino).

Thanks for any advise.

Ed





 
Date: 13 Aug 2007 17:45:05
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
On Aug 12, 4:32 am, lockjaw <davebo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 11, 9:51 pm, Ed <efaer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I have a Bretwus II and I love it, I would never consider anything but
> > > a double boiler, I can brew shots and steam milk at the same time, and
> > > maintain temperature stability which I can adjust at a whim...
>
> > Yeah, I am reading a lot of good about the Brewtus II. I guess I
> > should consider that one. Double boiler and no plumbing. This whole
> > choosing a machine business is confusing....and Hard work!
>
> > Ed
>
> With Less expensive valves, wands, and coachwork, but totally
> identical otherwise
> = the Quick Mill Anita.
>
> PID is applicable to HX -- delivers "dual mode" perfomance, flushing
> eliminated. You go from a 'pid' silvia to an HX -- you may HATE it.
> I know I did.
>
> Mazzer mini? got one and it is great. -- the standard of the
> industry.
>
> Davewww.hitechespresso.com

Dave, you're comparing the Anita to the Andreja, right? I'm sure you
are but the attribution made it look like you were saying the Anita
was nearly identical to the Brewtus II, which is clearly not the case.
Just to clear up any confusion for the OP.

-Ray



  
Date: 13 Aug 2007 16:31:40
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
correct Ray,

just comparing A to A -- NOT A to B!

heheh!

dave
<ramboorider@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1187027105.034202.202280@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 12, 4:32 am, lockjaw <davebo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 11, 9:51 pm, Ed <efaer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I have a Bretwus II and I love it, I would never consider anything
>> > > but
>> > > a double boiler, I can brew shots and steam milk at the same time,
>> > > and
>> > > maintain temperature stability which I can adjust at a whim...
>>
>> > Yeah, I am reading a lot of good about the Brewtus II. I guess I
>> > should consider that one. Double boiler and no plumbing. This whole
>> > choosing a machine business is confusing....and Hard work!
>>
>> > Ed
>>
>> With Less expensive valves, wands, and coachwork, but totally
>> identical otherwise
>> = the Quick Mill Anita.
>>
>> PID is applicable to HX -- delivers "dual mode" perfomance, flushing
>> eliminated. You go from a 'pid' silvia to an HX -- you may HATE it.
>> I know I did.
>>
>> Mazzer mini? got one and it is great. -- the standard of the
>> industry.
>>
>> Davewww.hitechespresso.com
>
> Dave, you're comparing the Anita to the Andreja, right? I'm sure you
> are but the attribution made it look like you were saying the Anita
> was nearly identical to the Brewtus II, which is clearly not the case.
> Just to clear up any confusion for the OP.
>
> -Ray
>




 
Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:32:17
From: lockjaw
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
On Aug 11, 9:51 pm, Ed <efaer...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > I have a Bretwus II and I love it, I would never consider anything but
> > a double boiler, I can brew shots and steam milk at the same time, and
> > maintain temperature stability which I can adjust at a whim...
>
> Yeah, I am reading a lot of good about the Brewtus II. I guess I
> should consider that one. Double boiler and no plumbing. This whole
> choosing a machine business is confusing....and Hard work!
>
> Ed

With Less expensive valves, wands, and coachwork, but totally
identical otherwise
= the Quick Mill Anita.

PID is applicable to HX -- delivers "dual mode" perfomance, flushing
eliminated. You go from a 'pid' silvia to an HX -- you may HATE it.
I know I did.

Mazzer mini? got one and it is great. -- the standard of the
industry.

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com



 
Date: 12 Aug 2007 01:51:01
From: Ed
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
> I have a Bretwus II and I love it, I would never consider anything but
> a double boiler, I can brew shots and steam milk at the same time, and
> maintain temperature stability which I can adjust at a whim...

Yeah, I am reading a lot of good about the Brewtus II. I guess I
should consider that one. Double boiler and no plumbing. This whole
choosing a machine business is confusing....and Hard work!

Ed



 
Date: 11 Aug 2007 18:48:17
From: Jazzed
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
On Aug 11, 9:13 pm, Ed <efaer...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I have a Silvia (PID) and Rocky at work and I want to get another
> setup at home. The Sivlia/Rocky was a huge step up from a krups and
> whirly grinder. I have no complaints with the Silvia/Rocky, but for my
> home setup, I am ready to take the next step and go all the way or
> near to the top.
>
> I am considering the Andreja Premium by Quick Mill and Mazzer Mini
> Electronic Doserless Espresso Grinder (Type A). Is this a good
> choice? Is this the top or near top when it comes to HX machines?
>
> I am unclear of the double-boiler status for home use. I have read
> that they are not sufficiently powered, but then I read about the new
> La Spaziale Vivaldi II Single Group Dual Boiler. I am not sure I want
> to plumb in a system, but maybe I should go all the way.
>
> So my questions:
>
> (1) is the Andreja/Mazzer a great choice assuming I do not want to
> plumb in a system?
>
> (2) Should I go all the way with the Vivaldi?
>
> (3) Maybe there is a better choice?
>
> I am interested in a variety of uses (expresso, latte, cappucino).
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Ed

I have a Bretwus II and I love it, I would never consider anything but
a double boiler, I can brew shots and steam milk at the same time, and
maintain temperature stability which I can adjust at a whim...



 
Date: 12 Aug 2007 01:28:14
From: ramboorider@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Is this a good choice for top of the line home setup?
On Aug 11, 9:13 pm, Ed <efaer...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I have a Silvia (PID) and Rocky at work and I want to get another
> setup at home. The Sivlia/Rocky was a huge step up from a krups and
> whirly grinder. I have no complaints with the Silvia/Rocky, but for my
> home setup, I am ready to take the next step and go all the way or
> near to the top.
>
> I am considering the Andreja Premium by Quick Mill and Mazzer Mini
> Electronic Doserless Espresso Grinder (Type A). Is this a good
> choice? Is this the top or near top when it comes to HX machines?
>
> I am unclear of the double-boiler status for home use. I have read
> that they are not sufficiently powered, but then I read about the new
> La Spaziale Vivaldi II Single Group Dual Boiler. I am not sure I want
> to plumb in a system, but maybe I should go all the way.
>
> So my questions:
>
> (1) is the Andreja/Mazzer a great choice assuming I do not want to
> plumb in a system?
>
> (2) Should I go all the way with the Vivaldi?
>
> (3) Maybe there is a better choice?
>
> I am interested in a variety of uses (expresso, latte, cappucino).
>
> Thanks for any advise.
>
> Ed

I'm the least expert of anyone here probably, but I asked a similar
question in the last week or two regarding the Brewtus II. This is
also a double boiler but it's a pour-over and works with normal
electric plug. It's a bit cheaper than the Vivaldi II and takes up
less room as well. Not sure its better or even as good, but the
reading I did on the Brewtus group convinced me its at least worth a
look. If you do mostly milk drinks, there's probably no downside to an
HX setup since the shots don't have to be quite as spot-on in a milk
drink, but if you do a lot of straight shots also, I'd think a double
boiler would be the way to go. Unless you enjoy the temp surfing /
cooling flush timing process.

-Ray