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Date: 14 Mar 2007 18:55:50
From: Pennyaline
Subject: Krups grinder
Perhaps this has already been addressed -- if so, I beg your pardon.

I recently got a Krups GVX2 to replace my blade grinder. I've followed
the directions for the Krups to the letter, and read and reread them to
make sure I got it right. But no matter what I do or how careful I am,
the Krups never fails to grind coffee too fine.

Using the medium setting recommended for my drip machine, the grounds
emerge almost powdery. Even on the coarsest setting the grounds are
small and create a mass in the filter that is not only too fine for drip
but that has almost overwhelmed the filter chamber at times, nearly
resulting in spill over.

And the resulting coffee? Cloudy, harsh... overextracted to be sure.

I've written to Krups about this, but they so far have only directed me
back to their webpages and troubleshooting guide. They're not hearing
that I've already done troubleshooting to death.

I am now doing the unthinkably heinous and reverting back to the blade
grinder. The grind is not as even, but it's also not a filter-clogging
silt and the coffee flavor I'm getting from it is superior to the Krups
grind.

What can I do about the Krups? Many use them without complaint. There
must be some solution!




 
Date: 17 Mar 2007 07:44:36
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
On 16, 8:46 pm, Pennyaline <candyap...@caramel.corn > wrote:
> Flasherly wrote:
> > On 15, 9:27 am, "JN" <john.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 14, 9:55 pm, Pennyaline <candyap...@caramel.corn> wrote:
>
> >>> Perhaps this has already been addressed -- if so, I beg your pardon.
> >>> I recently got a Krups GVX2 to replace my blade grinder. I've followed
> >>> the directions for the Krups to the letter, and read and reread them to
> >>> make sure I got it right. But no matter what I do or how careful I am,
> >>> the Krups never fails to grind coffee too fine.
> >>> Using the medium setting recommended for my drip machine, the grounds
> >>> emerge almost powdery. Even on the coarsest setting the grounds are
> >>> small and create a mass in the filter that is not only too fine for drip
> >>> but that has almost overwhelmed the filter chamber at times, nearly
> >>> resulting in spill over.
> >>> And the resulting coffee? Cloudy, harsh... overextracted to be sure.
> >>> I've written to Krups about this, but they so far have only directed me
> >>> back to their webpages and troubleshooting guide. They're not hearing
> >>> that I've already done troubleshooting to death.
> >>> I am now doing the unthinkably heinous and reverting back to the blade
> >>> grinder. The grind is not as even, but it's also not a filter-clogging
> >>> silt and the coffee flavor I'm getting from it is superior to the Krups
> >>> grind.
> >>> What can I do about the Krups? Many use them without complaint. There
> >>> must be some solution!
> >> I'd flush some rice through it, and start toasting and grinding your
> >> own spices with it. I found that it is a lousy coffee grinder but a
> >> great spice grinder. If you eat spicy food, toasting and grinding
> >> fresh spices is as exhilarating an experience as is is with coffee.
>
> >> Then I'd either stick to the old blade grinder for drip coffee, if
> >> your coffee tastes ok when you use it, or go to the coffeegeek.com web
> >> site and see what people recommend there for a decent burr grinder.
>
> >> J
>
> > Man with a plan. Good suggestion. I've a nice timed deyhdrator
> > (sucker for kitchen contraptions - you name it, I got it). Did well
> > enough for me, my Krups, although since switched to a $80ish ABS
> > Capresso -- glued on a chute to dispense into a PF, which is great
> > with reasonably consistant grinds. Krups has plates instead of
> > conical burrs, model is probably his if not similar, but otherwise
> > appears built to last forever. Probably be fines at a coarse setting,
> > but I used to use it with an espresso kick-off, one-temperature,
> > either/or coffee and milk steamer. It'd go fine enough to blast
> > grinds through and into the drink, as not. A taste (and some
> > relatively better grocery-store roasted beans) initially for time now
> > to maybe bid on a La Pavoni pro up for auction. Never tried it with
> > drip or other forms of strainers, though did manage to get it coarse
> > enough not to result in undue sedimentation. To me it was worth many
> > times more than a whirley bird for nearly as little ($35ish/Amazon).
>
> My final decision is that (compared to the Krups) I'm more than happy
> with my little blade grinder and my little Presto Scandinavian drip.
> Maybe the day will come when I can afford a higher-end conical burr
> grinder, but until then, the blade is doing fine for me.


I'm more a recent fan of espresso machines and might give it all up,
specialty coffee - the grinder and roasting - if I couldn't aerate
milk and pressure extract. Drip coffee and stirred milk is nothing
new. I've drank it all my life and still do when out and about.
Doesn't have distinction that I'd bother with SO beans. Too-slow
espresso from heavily packed coffee during extraction, at one extreme,
and the coffee's like an essence, spicey almost a pepper ("channeling"
- the other extreme, tastes like crap). Flowing and done right from
two thin streams, thinner than angel-hair spaghetti over a couple
thimbles of frothed milk - and it's a different game.



 
Date: 15 Mar 2007 16:33:52
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
On 15, 9:27 am, "JN" <john.n...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 14, 9:55 pm, Pennyaline <candyap...@caramel.corn> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps this has already been addressed -- if so, I beg your pardon.
>
> > I recently got a Krups GVX2 to replace my blade grinder. I've followed
> > the directions for the Krups to the letter, and read and reread them to
> > make sure I got it right. But no matter what I do or how careful I am,
> > the Krups never fails to grind coffee too fine.
>
> > Using the medium setting recommended for my drip machine, the grounds
> > emerge almost powdery. Even on the coarsest setting the grounds are
> > small and create a mass in the filter that is not only too fine for drip
> > but that has almost overwhelmed the filter chamber at times, nearly
> > resulting in spill over.
>
> > And the resulting coffee? Cloudy, harsh... overextracted to be sure.
>
> > I've written to Krups about this, but they so far have only directed me
> > back to their webpages and troubleshooting guide. They're not hearing
> > that I've already done troubleshooting to death.
>
> > I am now doing the unthinkably heinous and reverting back to the blade
> > grinder. The grind is not as even, but it's also not a filter-clogging
> > silt and the coffee flavor I'm getting from it is superior to the Krups
> > grind.
>
> > What can I do about the Krups? Many use them without complaint. There
> > must be some solution!
>
> I'd flush some rice through it, and start toasting and grinding your
> own spices with it. I found that it is a lousy coffee grinder but a
> great spice grinder. If you eat spicy food, toasting and grinding
> fresh spices is as exhilarating an experience as is is with coffee.
>
> Then I'd either stick to the old blade grinder for drip coffee, if
> your coffee tastes ok when you use it, or go to the coffeegeek.com web
> site and see what people recommend there for a decent burr grinder.
>
> J


Man with a plan. Good suggestion. I've a nice timed deyhdrator
(sucker for kitchen contraptions - you name it, I got it). Did well
enough for me, my Krups, although since switched to a $80ish ABS
Capresso -- glued on a chute to dispense into a PF, which is great
with reasonably consistant grinds. Krups has plates instead of
conical burrs, model is probably his if not similar, but otherwise
appears built to last forever. Probably be fines at a coarse setting,
but I used to use it with an espresso kick-off, one-temperature,
either/or coffee and milk steamer. It'd go fine enough to blast
grinds through and into the drink, as not. A taste (and some
relatively better grocery-store roasted beans) initially for time now
to maybe bid on a La Pavoni pro up for auction. Never tried it with
drip or other forms of strainers, though did manage to get it coarse
enough not to result in undue sedimentation. To me it was worth many
times more than a whirley bird for nearly as little ($35ish/Amazon).



  
Date: 16 Mar 2007 18:46:38
From: Pennyaline
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
Flasherly wrote:
> On 15, 9:27 am, "JN" <john.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14, 9:55 pm, Pennyaline <candyap...@caramel.corn> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps this has already been addressed -- if so, I beg your pardon.
>>> I recently got a Krups GVX2 to replace my blade grinder. I've followed
>>> the directions for the Krups to the letter, and read and reread them to
>>> make sure I got it right. But no matter what I do or how careful I am,
>>> the Krups never fails to grind coffee too fine.
>>> Using the medium setting recommended for my drip machine, the grounds
>>> emerge almost powdery. Even on the coarsest setting the grounds are
>>> small and create a mass in the filter that is not only too fine for drip
>>> but that has almost overwhelmed the filter chamber at times, nearly
>>> resulting in spill over.
>>> And the resulting coffee? Cloudy, harsh... overextracted to be sure.
>>> I've written to Krups about this, but they so far have only directed me
>>> back to their webpages and troubleshooting guide. They're not hearing
>>> that I've already done troubleshooting to death.
>>> I am now doing the unthinkably heinous and reverting back to the blade
>>> grinder. The grind is not as even, but it's also not a filter-clogging
>>> silt and the coffee flavor I'm getting from it is superior to the Krups
>>> grind.
>>> What can I do about the Krups? Many use them without complaint. There
>>> must be some solution!
>> I'd flush some rice through it, and start toasting and grinding your
>> own spices with it. I found that it is a lousy coffee grinder but a
>> great spice grinder. If you eat spicy food, toasting and grinding
>> fresh spices is as exhilarating an experience as is is with coffee.
>>
>> Then I'd either stick to the old blade grinder for drip coffee, if
>> your coffee tastes ok when you use it, or go to the coffeegeek.com web
>> site and see what people recommend there for a decent burr grinder.
>>
>> J
>
>
> Man with a plan. Good suggestion. I've a nice timed deyhdrator
> (sucker for kitchen contraptions - you name it, I got it). Did well
> enough for me, my Krups, although since switched to a $80ish ABS
> Capresso -- glued on a chute to dispense into a PF, which is great
> with reasonably consistant grinds. Krups has plates instead of
> conical burrs, model is probably his if not similar, but otherwise
> appears built to last forever. Probably be fines at a coarse setting,
> but I used to use it with an espresso kick-off, one-temperature,
> either/or coffee and milk steamer. It'd go fine enough to blast
> grinds through and into the drink, as not. A taste (and some
> relatively better grocery-store roasted beans) initially for time now
> to maybe bid on a La Pavoni pro up for auction. Never tried it with
> drip or other forms of strainers, though did manage to get it coarse
> enough not to result in undue sedimentation. To me it was worth many
> times more than a whirley bird for nearly as little ($35ish/Amazon).

My final decision is that (compared to the Krups) I'm more than happy
with my little blade grinder and my little Presto Scandinavian drip.
Maybe the day will come when I can afford a higher-end conical burr
grinder, but until then, the blade is doing fine for me.



 
Date: 15 Mar 2007 07:27:07
From: JN
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
On 14, 9:55 pm, Pennyaline <candyap...@caramel.corn > wrote:
> Perhaps this has already been addressed -- if so, I beg your pardon.
>
> I recently got a Krups GVX2 to replace my blade grinder. I've followed
> the directions for the Krups to the letter, and read and reread them to
> make sure I got it right. But no matter what I do or how careful I am,
> the Krups never fails to grind coffee too fine.
>
> Using the medium setting recommended for my drip machine, the grounds
> emerge almost powdery. Even on the coarsest setting the grounds are
> small and create a mass in the filter that is not only too fine for drip
> but that has almost overwhelmed the filter chamber at times, nearly
> resulting in spill over.
>
> And the resulting coffee? Cloudy, harsh... overextracted to be sure.
>
> I've written to Krups about this, but they so far have only directed me
> back to their webpages and troubleshooting guide. They're not hearing
> that I've already done troubleshooting to death.
>
> I am now doing the unthinkably heinous and reverting back to the blade
> grinder. The grind is not as even, but it's also not a filter-clogging
> silt and the coffee flavor I'm getting from it is superior to the Krups
> grind.
>
> What can I do about the Krups? Many use them without complaint. There
> must be some solution!

I'd flush some rice through it, and start toasting and grinding your
own spices with it. I found that it is a lousy coffee grinder but a
great spice grinder. If you eat spicy food, toasting and grinding
fresh spices is as exhilarating an experience as is is with coffee.

Then I'd either stick to the old blade grinder for drip coffee, if
your coffee tastes ok when you use it, or go to the coffeegeek.com web
site and see what people recommend there for a decent burr grinder.

J



 
Date: 15 Mar 2007 06:47:03
From: Bwisit
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
That's the grinder I had when I started. No matter what setting I
used, there would always be dust. You may just be getting tons of
dust because of the uneven grind mixed in with the rest of your
coffee. I lucked out most of the time because the static would
actually keep the dust sticking to the top of the plastic grounds
container and I could just scrape that away. Can you still return it
and maybe have it replaced just in case you got a defective unit?



  
Date: 15 Mar 2007 09:56:48
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Krups grinder


and krups is sponsoring the US barista championship.

[no further comment]

"Bwisit" <mckolit@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173966423.043995.47360@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> That's the grinder I had when I started. No matter what setting I
> used, there would always be dust. You may just be getting tons of
> dust because of the uneven grind mixed in with the rest of your
> coffee. I lucked out most of the time because the static would
> actually keep the dust sticking to the top of the plastic grounds
> container and I could just scrape that away. Can you still return it
> and maybe have it replaced just in case you got a defective unit?
>




   
Date: 15 Mar 2007 23:19:56
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Krups grinder
On Thu, 15 2007 09:56:48 -0400, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com >
wrote:

>
>
>and krups is sponsoring the US barista championship.
>
>[no further comment]


and maybe they'll learn something from it.



    
Date: 16 Mar 2007 03:38:03
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Krups grinder