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Date: 13 Jun 2007 18:52:20
From: Sherpa
Subject: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in
I've been doing a lot of research, but still have lots of questions. I
read the Choice magazine review on coffee machines which listed the
following machines, as the best, all of which are now cheaper than $450.

MAGIMIX L'Expresso Program Automatic 11233
SUNBEAM Café Latte EM5600
DELONGHI Le Cube EN185.M + Aeroccino

I came across the Lelit Combi PL042
http://www.coffeeco.com.au/napoletana.html
and it looks promising as it has a built in coffee grinder which I
wasn't initially thinking about, however, if I'm going to buy a decent
machine I probably should also grind my own coffee?

So, I want a machine that will last, has the grunt to froth milk (house
mates will be using it for hot chocolate as well) quickly and is solid.

Should I also be looking at how long they take to warm up?

I did notice the Sunbeam Cafe series which has a twin thermo block which
means I could pull a shot while frothing milk, however, it didn't see
well put together?

Are there any dodgy brands that I should stay away?

Are there many other things that I should take into consideration?

Having never owned a coffee machine before I'm sure that there are lots
of gotchas that I'm not aware of.

Thanks in advance.




 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 22:32:49
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia

"Sherpa" <a@a.com > wrote in message
news:466fafdb$0$29663$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I've been doing a lot of research, but still have lots of questions. I
> read the Choice magazine review on coffee machines which listed the
> following machines, as the best, all of which are now cheaper than $450.
>
> MAGIMIX L'Expresso Program Automatic 11233
> SUNBEAM Café Latte EM5600
> DELONGHI Le Cube EN185.M + Aeroccino
>
> I came across the Lelit Combi PL042
> http://www.coffeeco.com.au/napoletana.html
> and it looks promising as it has a built in coffee grinder which I wasn't
> initially thinking about, however, if I'm going to buy a decent machine I
> probably should also grind my own coffee?
>
> So, I want a machine that will last, has the grunt to froth milk (house
> mates will be using it for hot chocolate as well) quickly and is solid.
>
> Should I also be looking at how long they take to warm up?
>
> I did notice the Sunbeam Cafe series which has a twin thermo block which
> means I could pull a shot while frothing milk, however, it didn't see well
> put together?
>
> Are there any dodgy brands that I should stay away?
>
> Are there many other things that I should take into consideration?
>
> Having never owned a coffee machine before I'm sure that there are lots of
> gotchas that I'm not aware of.
>
> Thanks in advance.

I believe there was a guy in your neck of the woods, that purchased Sunbeam
EM5600, and was quite pleased with its performance.
Perhaps if he sees this post he will respond, I
feel sure if we can coax Alan out of his shell :-)) he will have some
information on this machine.

Regards, BMC




 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:01:35
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia
I sell and modify the Lelit -- I think it is a great machine.


the others? I've never heard of -- but then I'm not in Oz.

IMHO -- avoid anything w/ delonghi in the name!!

dave
www.hitechespresso.com




  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 07:30:12
From: Sherpa
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine


daveb wrote:
> I sell and modify the Lelit -- I think it is a great machine.
>
>
> the others? I've never heard of -- but then I'm not in Oz.
>
> IMHO -- avoid anything w/ delonghi in the name!!

I have heard this so many times from so many different people! I can't
believe that anyone actually buys Delonhgi after the reputation that
they seem to have.


 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 12:10:08
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia
I'd love to answer this one, but someone else from the much reduced
regular's roster should do it.


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au




  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 22:52:10
From: Sherpa
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine


Coffee for Connoisseurs wrote:
> I'd love to answer this one, but someone else from the much reduced
> regular's roster should do it.
>

Ok, went back and read some stuff on your site and it is much clearer
now as I missed one of the pages
http://www.coffeeco.com.au/articles/july2002.html

I love how you get inside the machines and point out all the details!

One point which was bit confusing is the name of this machine
http://www.coffeeco.com.au/napoletana.html
which I now know is Mokita Combi as you also call it Lelit Combi PL042?

Anyway, that is the one I want.






  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 02:26:47
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia
"Coffee for Connoisseurs" <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au > wrote:



  
Date: 13 Jun 2007 08:40:11
From: Tom
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia
Well, I am not a connoisseur, however, my Saeco Vienna DeLux has given me
ten years of service, making 6 to 8 cups a day....... It warms up in about
a minute and froths well. It's not a 'high class' machine as many here have
but it makes good coffee if you roast your own beans. You should know that
automatic machines require regular cleaning and lubing, which requires
disassembling the machine about once a month. So be ready for that.

Tom


"Coffee for Connoisseurs" <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au > wrote in message
news:A8Rbi.13479$wH4.11028@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I'd love to answer this one, but someone else from the much reduced
> regular's roster should do it.
>
>
> --
> Alan
>
> alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
> www.coffeeco.com.au
>




   
Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:03:40
From: daveb
Subject: advice on buying a semi-automatic espresso machine in Australia
the vienna is not a semi -- it is a super.

d