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Date: 03 May 2007 17:31:47
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Mazzer & Rio grinders
OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what I can't
figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the Mazzer? Maybe I'm
missing something, and if so I'd really like to know because I have a
handful of people & organizations that are in need of new grinders. Is a Rio
really worth the extra $$ or is it all in the name, as I suspect?
--
Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.






 
Date: 03 May 2007 13:59:24
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mazzer & Rio grinders

"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:70p_h.11417$3P3.7480@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what I
> can't figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the
> Mazzer? Maybe I'm missing something, and if so I'd really like to know
> because I have a handful of people & organizations that are in need of
> new grinders. Is a Rio really worth the extra $$ or is it all in the
> name, as I suspect?
> --
> Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>

Hi Rob, I have an old rebadged Rio Mazzer (Major) & the spec rating for
it @ 110v is 7.5 A & that's 825 watts. Here
http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_major_espresso_grinder
you can see the rating on the new models is only 650W, or 5.9A. I'd say
the same is true for your Rio Normale SJ, a higher motor wattage
outputas compared to the new models 350W (3.18A) output stated here:
http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_espresso_grinder

What's the amperage rating on the spec plate?, then of course you'll
then know the motors wattage output.

The older units have more oomph. In my case, 27% more power/torque.
Cheers,
Craig.



  
Date: 03 May 2007 19:42:58
From: Sylvain
Subject: Re: Mazzer & Rio grinders
hey Graig, you might remember my Rio Super Jolly it says 5 Amps on it.



"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:59um82F2ipsicU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:70p_h.11417$3P3.7480@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what I
>> can't figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the Mazzer?
>> Maybe I'm missing something, and if so I'd really like to know because I
>> have a handful of people & organizations that are in need of new
>> grinders. Is a Rio really worth the extra $$ or is it all in the name, as
>> I suspect?
>> --
>> Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>>
>
> Hi Rob, I have an old rebadged Rio Mazzer (Major) & the spec rating for it
> @ 110v is 7.5 A & that's 825 watts. Here
> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_major_espresso_grinder
> you can see the rating on the new models is only 650W, or 5.9A. I'd say
> the same is true for your Rio Normale SJ, a higher motor wattage outputas
> compared to the new models 350W (3.18A) output stated here:
> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_espresso_grinder
>
> What's the amperage rating on the spec plate?, then of course you'll then
> know the motors wattage output.
>
> The older units have more oomph. In my case, 27% more power/torque.
> Cheers,
> Craig.




   
Date: 03 May 2007 22:48:21
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mazzer & Rio grinders

"Sylvain" <barista9@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:zdw_h.47637$FO5.95401@wagner.videotron.net...
> hey Graig, you might remember my Rio Super Jolly it says 5 Amps on it.
>


No sorry Sylvain, I don't remember., but thanks for the amperage check
on that! {;-) 5A x 110v rating plate (My line voltage is a lot more than
this in Toronto, Ontario, Canada) is 550 watts as compared to my spec
listed below for a new Mazzer SJ 350W (3.18A) output.
My line voltage is actually 119.7V so my power to my Rio Mazzer Major
would actually be 897.75 watts & not 823 watts on the bottom side spec
plate rating of 110V with 7.5 amps.
Craig.


>
>
> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:59um82F2ipsicU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:70p_h.11417$3P3.7480@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what
>>> I can't figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the
>>> Mazzer? Maybe I'm missing something, and if so I'd really like to
>>> know because I have a handful of people & organizations that are in
>>> need of new grinders. Is a Rio really worth the extra $$ or is it
>>> all in the name, as I suspect?
>>> --
>>> Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rob, I have an old rebadged Rio Mazzer (Major) & the spec rating
>> for it @ 110v is 7.5 A & that's 825 watts. Here
>> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_major_espresso_grinder
>> you can see the rating on the new models is only 650W, or 5.9A. I'd
>> say the same is true for your Rio Normale SJ, a higher motor wattage
>> outputas compared to the new models 350W (3.18A) output stated here:
>> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_espresso_grinder
>>
>> What's the amperage rating on the spec plate?, then of course you'll
>> then know the motors wattage output.
>>
>> The older units have more oomph. In my case, 27% more power/torque.
>> Cheers,
>> Craig.
>
>



    
Date: 04 May 2007 02:51:55
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Mazzer & Rio grinders
Thanks to everyone for the info. I think the Mazzer will fit in nice with
the old farts group needs just fine.

Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:59vl7qF2ljsucU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Sylvain" <barista9@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zdw_h.47637$FO5.95401@wagner.videotron.net...
>> hey Graig, you might remember my Rio Super Jolly it says 5 Amps on it.
>>
>
>
> No sorry Sylvain, I don't remember., but thanks for the amperage check on
> that! {;-) 5A x 110v rating plate (My line voltage is a lot more than this
> in Toronto, Ontario, Canada) is 550 watts as compared to my spec listed
> below for a new Mazzer SJ 350W (3.18A) output.
> My line voltage is actually 119.7V so my power to my Rio Mazzer Major
> would actually be 897.75 watts & not 823 watts on the bottom side spec
> plate rating of 110V with 7.5 amps.
> Craig.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com> wrote in message
>> news:59um82F2ipsicU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:70p_h.11417$3P3.7480@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what I
>>>> can't figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the
>>>> Mazzer? Maybe I'm missing something, and if so I'd really like to know
>>>> because I have a handful of people & organizations that are in need of
>>>> new grinders. Is a Rio really worth the extra $$ or is it all in the
>>>> name, as I suspect?
>>>> --
>>>> Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
>>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
>>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Rob, I have an old rebadged Rio Mazzer (Major) & the spec rating for
>>> it @ 110v is 7.5 A & that's 825 watts. Here
>>> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_major_espresso_grinder
>>> you can see the rating on the new models is only 650W, or 5.9A. I'd say
>>> the same is true for your Rio Normale SJ, a higher motor wattage
>>> outputas compared to the new models 350W (3.18A) output stated here:
>>> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_espresso_grinder
>>>
>>> What's the amperage rating on the spec plate?, then of course you'll
>>> then know the motors wattage output.
>>>
>>> The older units have more oomph. In my case, 27% more power/torque.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Craig.
>>
>>
>




  
Date: 03 May 2007 19:16:09
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mazzer & Rio grinders

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:59um82F2ipsicU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:70p_h.11417$3P3.7480@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> OK, I understand that the Rio Normale is a Mazzer Super Jolly; what I
>> can't figure out is what makes the Rio worth ~$450 more than the
>> Mazzer? Maybe I'm missing something, and if so I'd really like to
>> know because I have a handful of people & organizations that are in
>> need of new grinders. Is a Rio really worth the extra $$ or is it all
>> in the name, as I suspect?
>> --
>> Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>>
>
> Hi Rob, I have an old rebadged Rio Mazzer (Major) & the spec rating
> for it @ 110v is 7.5 A & that's 825 watts. Here
> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_major_espresso_grinder
> you can see the rating on the new models is only 650W, or 5.9A. I'd
> say the same is true for your Rio Normale SJ, a higher motor wattage
> outputas compared to the new models 350W (3.18A) output stated here:
> http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_espresso_grinder
>
> What's the amperage rating on the spec plate?, then of course you'll
> then know the motors wattage output.
>
> The older units have more oomph. In my case, 27% more power/torque.
> Cheers,
> Craig.

Thanks for your answer... {:-/
Craig.