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Date: 27 Dec 2006 20:22:20
From: mikeyb411
Subject: Mini Mazzer
Just plunged into a Mini Mazzer. Having difficulty finding quality
tips on the net on how to dial in.

I read that there is the place where mazzer thinks a good grind setting
is... but i have a silvia. I realize numerically these things are all
relative. Couple of questions, how long does this machine take to
break in (hopefully without me doing it to it). Right now the setting
where this baby chirps ( I imagine burrs are getting real close) is in
the mid 5.0's. That seems really high. Mazzer's setting for suggested
espresso is 7. That seems awfully close. Any suggestions to see if
the grinder is screwed up? or just needs to be broken in.

Thanks in advance.





 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 08:54:41
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
Dan is correct. grinders do not require a break-in.

dave


Dan Bollinger wrote:
> > I read that there is the place where mazzer thinks a good grind setting
> > is... but i have a silvia. I realize numerically these things are all
> > relative. Couple of questions, how long does this machine take to
> > break in (hopefully without me doing it to it). Right now the setting
> > where this baby chirps ( I imagine burrs are getting real close) is in
> > the mid 5.0's. That seems really high. Mazzer's setting for suggested
> > espresso is 7. That seems awfully close. Any suggestions to see if
> > the grinder is screwed up? or just needs to be broken in.
>
> Your grinder is neither screwed up or in need of break-in. The numbers on the
> dial are arbitrary, every machine is different, hence the little sticker to get
> you close to what you need. Your number 7 could be my number 3. Start with what
> they suggest and go from there. Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs
> closer more than a few tics unless the motor is running.
>
> Dan



 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 08:47:36
From: chardinej
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
Dan Bollinger wrote:
> > I read that there is the place where mazzer thinks a good grind setting
> > is... but i have a silvia. I realize numerically these things are all
> > relative. Couple of questions, how long does this machine take to
> > break in (hopefully without me doing it to it). Right now the setting
> > where this baby chirps ( I imagine burrs are getting real close) is in
> > the mid 5.0's. That seems really high. Mazzer's setting for suggested
> > espresso is 7. That seems awfully close. Any suggestions to see if
> > the grinder is screwed up? or just needs to be broken in.
>
There are two endpoints that you are looking for in setting up a
grinder for the first time. At one end is a grind so fine that the
espresso machine in choked. At the other end you get a fast gusher. I
have found with my MM that the ideal pour takes place about 3-4 notches
courser that that required to choke the machine. Of course this is
assuming everything else is equal (dose, tamp). You probably know that
the type of bean, moisture content of bean, how fresh it is, humidity
in air, etc all affect length of pour so after dialing-in you will
still need to adjust the grinder on a regular basis and end up throwing
some espresso down the drain. BTW the "chirping" as you call it is not
the burrs touching.



 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 09:48:28
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
> I read that there is the place where mazzer thinks a good grind setting
> is... but i have a silvia. I realize numerically these things are all
> relative. Couple of questions, how long does this machine take to
> break in (hopefully without me doing it to it). Right now the setting
> where this baby chirps ( I imagine burrs are getting real close) is in
> the mid 5.0's. That seems really high. Mazzer's setting for suggested
> espresso is 7. That seems awfully close. Any suggestions to see if
> the grinder is screwed up? or just needs to be broken in.

Your grinder is neither screwed up or in need of break-in. The numbers on the
dial are arbitrary, every machine is different, hence the little sticker to get
you close to what you need. Your number 7 could be my number 3. Start with what
they suggest and go from there. Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs
closer more than a few tics unless the motor is running.

Dan



  
Date: 28 Dec 2006 11:25:35
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer

"Dan Bollinger" <danNObollinger@insightSPAMbb.com > wrote in message
news:CbWdnRNnhMmgRA7YnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>> I read that there is the place where mazzer thinks a good grind
>> setting
>> is... but i have a silvia. I realize numerically these things are
>> all
>> relative. Couple of questions, how long does this machine take to
>> break in (hopefully without me doing it to it). Right now the
>> setting
>> where this baby chirps ( I imagine burrs are getting real close) is
>> in
>> the mid 5.0's. That seems really high. Mazzer's setting for
>> suggested
>> espresso is 7. That seems awfully close. Any suggestions to see if
>> the grinder is screwed up? or just needs to be broken in.
>
> Your grinder is neither screwed up or in need of break-in. The numbers
> on the dial are arbitrary, every machine is different, hence the
> little sticker to get you close to what you need. Your number 7 could
> be my number 3. Start with what they suggest and go from there.

>Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs closer more than a few
>tics unless the motor is running.


Sure you can, if there's no beans in it!
Craig.

>
> Dan



   
Date: 28 Dec 2006 12:11:37
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
>>Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs closer more than a few tics
>>unless the motor is running.
>
>
> Sure you can, if there's no beans in it!
> Craig.

Craig, Even if empty, if you tighten the burrs 2-3 whole numbers on the dial
the motor (and burr) will not spin when turned on. Dan




    
Date: 28 Dec 2006 14:45:14
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer

"Dan Bollinger" <danNObollinger@insightSPAMbb.com > wrote in message
news:Mr2dnVUWXNxXZw7YnZ2dnUVZ_uS3nZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs closer more than a few
>>>tics unless the motor is running.
>>
>>
>> Sure you can, if there's no beans in it!
>> Craig.
>
> Craig, Even if empty, if you tighten the burrs 2-3 whole numbers on
> the dial the motor (and burr) will not spin when turned on. Dan
>
>

That's absolutely ludicrous, I just did exactly that not 2 minutes ago
before this post..
Craig.



     
Date: 29 Dec 2006 19:43:40
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer

"Craig Andrews" <alt.coffee@deletethis.rogers.com > wrote in message
news:4vil66F1c747pU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Dan Bollinger" <danNObollinger@insightSPAMbb.com> wrote in message
> news:Mr2dnVUWXNxXZw7YnZ2dnUVZ_uS3nZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>Caution: On a MM you cannot adjust the burrs closer more than a few
>>>>tics unless the motor is running.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure you can, if there's no beans in it!
>>> Craig.
>>
>> Craig, Even if empty, if you tighten the burrs 2-3 whole numbers on
>> the dial the motor (and burr) will not spin when turned on. Dan
>>
>>
>
> That's absolutely ludicrous, I just did exactly that not 2 minutes ago
> before this post..
> Craig.

So, obviously without a rebuttal Dan, I take it you don't OWN a MM
then.. {;-)
Craig.



      
Date: 29 Dec 2006 20:10:19
From: Dan Bollinger
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
>>> Craig, Even if empty, if you tighten the burrs 2-3 whole numbers on the
>>> dial the motor (and burr) will not spin when turned on. Dan
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That's absolutely ludicrous, I just did exactly that not 2 minutes ago before
>> this post..
>> Craig.
>
> So, obviously without a rebuttal Dan, I take it you don't OWN a MM

Craig, I thought I'd be gracious and let you have the last--even if
mistaken--word. But since you insist:
http://www.claycritters.com/coffee/Mazzer%20Mini%20single%20doser.jpg
Obviously, you are wrong on one count, which begs the question if you are wrong
on two counts.

"The (grind) adjustment MUST be performed with the MOTOR ON." Mazzer Mini
Owners Manula, p. 7.

Dan


PS: Perhaps you confused my statement of '2-3 whole numbers on the dial' with
'two-three tic ks on the dial?' (There are 10 tic ks between the stamped
numbers)



       
Date: 29 Dec 2006 21:37:51
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer

"Dan Bollinger" <danNObollinger@insightSPAMbb.com > wrote in message
news:ms2dnUpoe4EdIQjYnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>> Craig, Even if empty, if you tighten the burrs 2-3 whole numbers
>>>> on the dial the motor (and burr) will not spin when turned on. Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's absolutely ludicrous, I just did exactly that not 2 minutes
>>> ago before this post..
>>> Craig.
>>
>> So, obviously without a rebuttal Dan, I take it you don't OWN a MM
>
> Craig, I thought I'd be gracious and let you have the last--even if
> mistaken--word. But since you insist:
> http://www.claycritters.com/coffee/Mazzer%20Mini%20single%20doser.jpg
> Obviously, you are wrong on one count, which begs the question if you
> are wrong on two counts.
>
> "The (grind) adjustment MUST be performed with the MOTOR ON." Mazzer
> Mini Owners Manula, p. 7.
>
> Dan
>
>
> PS: Perhaps you confused my statement of '2-3 whole numbers on the
> dial' with 'two-three tic ks on the dial?' (There are 10 tic ks
> between the stamped numbers)

NO, no confusion!, {no beans inside} ( maybe after a few more 500ml
bottles of Staropramen, lol!)
http://www.staropramen.com/english/index.html & yeah I've seen that/your
grinder before.
Craig.



 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 00:52:55
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Mini Mazzer
the 'ol rule of thumb is adjust the grind for a good cup of espresso.

2 oz in 20 to 25 seconds -- using good, fresh beans.

There is NO absolute number.

Dave
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