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Date: 09 Jul 2007 21:12:01
From: opother
Subject: My experiences to date with various coffee equipment
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GRINDERS AND EQUIPMENT THE I HAVE OR HAD IN PAST
PIDed SILVIA STILL GOING STRONG LOTTTTTS OF USE AT HOME AT WORK AND
SOME UNINTENDED ABUSE AT WORK 5 YEARS OF OWNERSHIP NO PROBLEMS PID
ABOUT 3 YEARS ??? NO PROBLEMS EITHER VARIOUS MODS ALL STILL WORK
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I have a modified brass hopper neck Innova conical (I2) (YES INNOVA
CONNICAL AND IT'S VARIANTS ROCK FOR ESPRESSO USE) to prevent bean
hopper
eating
THREE YEARS LATER WITH PLENTY OF USE AND ABUSE AT HOME AND AT WORK AND
SAME BURRS THIS THING STILL PRODUCES THE BEST GRINDS (FOR ESPRESSO
ONLY GRANTED) THAN ANY OF MY OTHER GRINDERS.
INCLUDING MY RECENTLY (JULY 2007) PURCHASED E-BAY MAZZER SUPER
JOLLY WITH BRAND NEW BURRS. I JUST LOVE THIS THING BUT MY INNOVA
MAY JUST HAVE TO COME BACK OUT OF THE CABINET THE DILEMA I AM
UNDECIDED IN THE END I JUST HAVE TO DISCIPLINE MYSELF AND CONCEDE
TO BETTER GRIND QUALITY FOR MY MEDIOCORE HOME USE. WHEN THAT DAY
COMES I WILL DEFINATELY HAVE THE SUPER JOLLY READY FOR HEAVY JOBS
(IE PARTIES LARGE GATHERINGS AND SUCH)
I ALSO GAVE THE KITCHEN AID PROLINE A SPIN AT $200.00 (JULY 2007)
GREAT
BUILD WITH BIG DULL CRAPPY BURRS, GRINDS LOOK GREAT, NOT SURE WHY,
BUT
BREW
TASTES LIKE CRAP OUT OF THE BOX IT SUCKS FOR ANY BREW METHOD I USE
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY GOOD QUALITY BURRS THAT MIGHT FIT THIS THING
?????
WILL I EVER LEARN I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMPLAINERS MY SUPER
JOLLY
THAT I REPLACED IT WITH COST THE SAME.
MY BRASS HOPPER EXTENSION FOR THE INNOVA IS
STILL GOING STRONG NO PROBLEMS DOES HAVE CHEAP PLASTIC SPOUT
(DOSERLESS)
THAT
CRACKED FROM ME TAPPING IT BUT STILL FUCTIONIONABLE
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A Rocky doserless that now seems to be behaving after replacing dull
burrs
with new sharp ones
UPDATE THIS GRINDER IS DEFINATELY KICK
BUTT QUALITY ALMOST 4 YEARS AND STILL GOING
WITH LOTS OF USE FOR ALL TYPES OF GRINDS
INCLUDING ESPRESSO IT'S NOW AT WORKPLACE
FOR THE HOME USER WHO SWITCHES GRINDS A LOT
THIS IS A VERY PRACTICAL CHOICE
Innova has best grind and is my main espresso machine. I also use it
for
moka
pot, but I use Rocky for espresso too as well as vacuum, moka and
(french)
press pot.
UPDATE I HAVEN'T BEEN USING THE INNOVA LATELY SINCE PLAYING WITH
MAZZER
BUT I PROBABLY WILL BE USING IT AGAIN IT'S GRIND QUALITY IS BETTER IN
MY OPINION.
THE ROCKY IS BEING USED AT WORK FOR THE HUGE BUNNOMATIC DRIP
THAT I TOOK HOME AND CLEANED AND RETURNED (THREE DAYS IN VINAGER AND
A
COUPLE OF HOURS IN CLR TO GET THE LIME OUT) COFFEE DRINKERS AT WORK
LOVE THE BREW
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I use a solis meastro (old model, not +) at work for bodum electric
vacuum
pot, and an occasional espresso or cappucino for coworkers using my
old
briel
first class espresso cappucino machine (yes I still have it) Not the
best
espresso but still better than charbucks
UPDATE I NO LONGER HAVE SOLIS GRINDER OR BRIEL PUMP MACHINE
SOLIS LASTED ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS BEFORE BURRS TOTALY KRAPPED OUT
(I USED IT FOR ESPRESSO) I HAD TO FIX IT MYSELF MANY MANY TIMES
IN BETWEEN (CHEAP PLASTIC BURR MOUNTS) NEWER SOLIS STILL HAS
SAME MOUNTS DON'T USE RICE TO CLEAN THESE. BRIEL FIRST CLASS WAS
A GOOD CHEAPIE THAT I GOT A LOT OF USE OUT OF. I SOMEHOW LOST
TRACK OF BOTH AT WORK AND I DON'T REALLY MISS THEM
BODUM ELECTRIC BURNED OUT AFTER ABOUT A YEAR
OF HEAVY USE AND SOME ABUSE
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I have a Zass open hopper mill that I use for travel, small light,
and
fits in
most bags and suitcases it's the better of the zasses in my opinion,
and
cheaper ,except for the globe shaped one that looks really good, too
bad
I
didn't buy it. I use mine for press, moka, vacuum, and drip, although
it
willwork for espresso, in my opinion shots are not so dazzling (a
little
bitter.)
ZASS IS STILL IN GREAT CONDITION DESPTE A LOT OF PAST USE
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A krups weed wacker grinder that I used to use for my "steam toy
espresso
machine" and later used to powder oatmeal for pancakes and oatmeal
beverages. A
more appropriate application for this type of chopper. Steam toy has
been
replaced by a proper stainless moka pot.
I HAVEN'T BEEN POWDERING OATMEAL LATELY FIBER IS GOOD I GOTA
GET INTO IT AGAIN
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A kitchen Aid A-9 replica that I toyed with. It produced an alright
grind in
stock condition for everything, but probably not my Sylvia for some
coffees.
It's click step settings have gaps as wide as the grand canyon, not a
fine
tuning grinder. I suspect it's stainless burrs are not nearly as
hardened
as
the burrs in the original antiques. Just a hypothesis from
descriptions
of how the antiques still grind well.
I GAVE THIS AWAY AS A GIFT GOOD GRINDER BUT NOT FOR ESPRESSO
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A cheapo brass turkish mill. If you think the standard Zass is a
slow
grinder
you ain't seen nothing yet baby. That combined with mediocor to plain
crappy
grinds is why it still sits on my shelf to this day. It might make
good
fast
powder if you attach a power drill chuck to it's spindle, haven't
tried
it.
UPDATE I DID WEDGE A BENT (ROUNDED) PIECE OF TIN CAN AROUND BURR
SPINDLE
BETWEEN
IT AND IT'S HOLDER, NOW GRINDS ALRIGHT BUT STILL SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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A wooden motar and pedstle I use for spices, it would probably make
an
excellent manual coffee grinder for those who love rancidity and sweat
in
their
cup but the weed wacker can do the same job faster and easier without
sweat.
I STILL HAVE THIS I GUESS THIS THING WON'T WEAR OUT SOON
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 20:02:13
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Subject: Re: My experiences to date with various coffee equipment
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On Jul 10, 12:12 am, opother <opother...@earthlink.net > wrote:
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> GRINDERS AND EQUIPMENT THE I HAVE OR HAD IN PAST
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> I STILL HAVE THIS I GUESS THIS THING WON'T WEAR OUT SOON
I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!... well, ah, yeah I could have.
Len
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 17:00:32
From: *alan*
Subject: Re: My experiences to date with various coffee equipment
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"opother" wrote
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Well, Opother ---- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCES !!!!
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