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Date: 11 Dec 2006 16:34:19
From: Hunter
Subject: Need for a quality small roaster?
Is there much of a ket need for small, high-quality coffee roasting
machines that are affordable for everday people? I know there are a
few small home machines, but are they worth it?





 
Date: 12 Dec 2006 11:55:17
From: news.rcn.com
Subject: Re: My 2c worth
"Hunter" <amswak2000@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165883659.299736.174970@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> Is there much of a ket need for small, high-quality coffee roasting
> machines that are affordable for everday people? I know there are a
> few small home machines, but are they worth it?


Definitely yes, produce something like the Melita which has a greater
payload and works. (The Gene Cafe roaster can hardly be described as
affordable, though some might think it small). Once you get much above
$50-80, people are going to stick with their $5 corn poppers.

>




 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 20:52:24
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Need for a quality small roaster?
"Hunter" <amswak2000@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Is there much of a ket need for small, high-quality coffee roasting
>machines that are affordable for everday people? I know there are a
>few small home machines, but are they worth it?
>
How small?

Remember that coffee, for the masses, is a drug and a "beverage of
convenience" when a choice can be made by the consumer (thus the
instant coffee ket as well as Starbies success, IMO). Additionally,
taste is somewhat secondary to a great percentage of the coffee
consumers- reflected once again in the success of Starbucks and their
keting, beyond the fact that there are shops serving up coffee
worse than that- in some cases, much worse. The more complication you
add to the beverage, the smaller the ket becomes. Roasting at home
is about as much complication as you can possibly add in the eyes of
the average coffee drinker.

So if we accept that the ket is small to begin with, now consider
that there are already a number of small, home, coffee roasting
appliances on the ket, dividing up an already small ket. And to
assume that there are no more on the way is naive.

As far a "worth it" only the consumer can decide that.

And it's not like they can get their choice of quality green coffee at
the local ket.

On the other hand, I have 6 coffee roaster... Hmm...

Randy "7? do I hear 7?" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 18:20:48
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Need for a quality small roaster?

Hunter wrote:
> Is there much of a ket need for small, high-quality coffee roasting
> machines that are affordable for everday people? I know there are a
> few small home machines, but are they worth it?

Their worth is proportionate to demand, which is respectively high and
low. If worth were without reserve a direct measure of demand on small
home machines, then the one I have would require between two to four
times more product volume demand to make it two to four times less
expensive for a product employing the same quality. At some point,
yes, potential demand will effect an outcome of goods positioned to
offer greater worth as an end to value. However, direct proportion of
price on the premise of greater demand isn't a realistic model of
factors and dynamics affecting how goods become value-conscious
keted items. Take the single most common small-sized truck on the
road. Although motor parts for that truck will cost some amount less
than fewer small-sized trucks of another make, yet all are still far in
excess of a value for material and an outlay of worth to assemble the
parts.



 
Date: 11 Dec 2006 18:45:42
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Need for a quality small roaster?
In article <1165883659.299736.174970@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com >,
"Hunter" <amswak2000@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Is there much of a ket need for small, high-quality coffee roasting
> machines that are affordable for everday people? I know there are a
> few small home machines, but are they worth it?

I'm relatively new to roasting, but I think they are. Especially for
those that don't like to tinker.

The little FreshRoast +8 does a very good job of roasting 2.5 oz of
beans in a very short time.

The Z&D does well and does 5 oz of beans. As does the Iroast 2, I
believe.

Then up the scale to the Gene Cafe which does up to 8 oz and gets very
nice reviews. It allows both time and temp adjustments, as well as
supporting partial loads, which none of the others do from my readings.

And it goes up from there, through the Hottop and into small sample
roasters. As you move up in size, you move up in price for the most
part.


  
Date: 11 Dec 2006 22:05:41
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Need for a quality small roaster?
I have been roasting with a Poppery for about four years. I am satisfied
with the results. Do the small roasters [under 8 oz] actually do any better
than a popper, or are they just more convenient?

"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message
news:lloydparsons-5EB7A6.18454211122006@individual.net...
> In article <1165883659.299736.174970@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
>
> The little FreshRoast +8 does a very good job of roasting 2.5 oz of
> beans in a very short time.
>
> The Z&D does well and does 5 oz of beans. As does the Iroast 2, I
> believe.
>
> Then up the scale to the Gene Cafe which does up to 8 oz and gets very
> nice reviews. It allows both time and temp adjustments, as well as
> supporting partial loads, which none of the others do from my readings.
>
> And it goes up from there, through the Hottop and into small sample
> roasters. As you move up in size, you move up in price for the most
> part.




   
Date: 11 Dec 2006 22:24:38
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Need for a quality small roaster?
I'd say it is more convenience than anything else, especially in the FR.
The timer is OK, but you just don't dare set and forget, 'cause it will
get away from you in a hurry.

My feeling is the timer is just very convenient and allows me something
close to repeatability.

Some of the others allow for more control, particularly the Gene. Both
time and temp are adjustable on it. I think the iRoast does something
like that too.

> I have been roasting with a Poppery for about four years. I am satisfied
> with the results. Do the small roasters [under 8 oz] actually do any better
> than a popper, or are they just more convenient?
>
> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:lloydparsons-5EB7A6.18454211122006@individual.net...
> > In article <1165883659.299736.174970@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > The little FreshRoast +8 does a very good job of roasting 2.5 oz of
> > beans in a very short time.
> >
> > The Z&D does well and does 5 oz of beans. As does the Iroast 2, I
> > believe.
> >
> > Then up the scale to the Gene Cafe which does up to 8 oz and gets very
> > nice reviews. It allows both time and temp adjustments, as well as
> > supporting partial loads, which none of the others do from my readings.
> >
> > And it goes up from there, through the Hottop and into small sample
> > roasters. As you move up in size, you move up in price for the most
> > part.