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Date: 19 Aug 2007 21:28:41
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
I ordered http://tinyurl.com/2y9gga this morning.

I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; spend
my money foolishly.

Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this type
of machine?

I've look online, and read minimally for a few hours, but am still totally
unknowledgeable.

Thanks.
Dee Dee









 
Date: 23 Aug 2007 06:45:47
From: shane
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 22, 4:53 pm, Robert Harmon <r_h_har...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Howdy Dee Dee!
> I wasn't watching this thread so I'm sorry if you read this too late
> to do anything about it. The Saeco Aroma S/S is on sale atwww.costco.com:http://tinyurl.com/2qug75, for $220 (S&H included) through August 26th
> (regular price is $270). If you can return the one you bought do so,
> Costco's return policy is unbeatable!
>
> As for a grinder, I'd suggest not getting a Cunil Tranquillo, Gaggia
> MDF, or a Rancilio Rocky. Instead, I'd recommend a used commercial
> machine on eBay (Rancilio MD50, Mazzer SJ, or Rosito Bisani/Rosssi
> RR45).
>
> Enjoy!
>
> On Aug 19, 8:28 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I orderedhttp://tinyurl.com/2y9ggathismorning.
>
> > I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
> > don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; spend
> > my money foolishly.
>
> > Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this type
> > of machine?
>
> > I've look online, and read minimally for a few hours, but am still totally
> > unknowledgeable.
>
> > Thanks.
> > Dee Dee- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Having gone down this path of choosing and espresso grinder, one
thought came to mind, I am not sure if I want to tinker with a used
grinder.



  
Date: 23 Aug 2007 08:56:25
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
Well, there's little to *tinker* with. Changing the burrs is super simple &
cleaning a used machine does take from a half-hour to three hours, but
that's just detail work, nothing techie about it. The fact is, if you buy
one of these machines you'll never *need* to buy another grinder.
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
"shane" <shane.olson@juno.com > wrote in message
news:1187876747.337731.3110@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Having gone down this path of choosing and espresso grinder, one
> thought came to mind, I am not sure if I want to tinker with a used
> grinder.
>




 
Date: 22 Aug 2007 14:53:06
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
Howdy Dee Dee!
I wasn't watching this thread so I'm sorry if you read this too late
to do anything about it. The Saeco Aroma S/S is on sale at www.costco.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2qug75, for $220 (S&H included) through August 26th
(regular price is $270). If you can return the one you bought do so,
Costco's return policy is unbeatable!

As for a grinder, I'd suggest not getting a Cunil Tranquillo, Gaggia
MDF, or a Rancilio Rocky. Instead, I'd recommend a used commercial
machine on eBay (Rancilio MD50, Mazzer SJ, or Rosito Bisani/Rosssi
RR45).

Enjoy!

On Aug 19, 8:28 pm, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> I orderedhttp://tinyurl.com/2y9ggathis morning.
>
> I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
> don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; spend
> my money foolishly.
>
> Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this type
> of machine?
>
> I've look online, and read minimally for a few hours, but am still totally
> unknowledgeable.
>
> Thanks.
> Dee Dee




  
Date: 25 Aug 2007 09:48:34
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine


 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 08:34:38
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 21, 5:27 am, r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu (D. Ross) wrote:
> "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net> wrote:
>
> There is a family of grinders that is much better for espresso than the
> Solis, if not as good as the Gaggia MDF or Rancilio Rocky, and is usually
> cheaper than the latter. This family includes the Lux, the Iberital, and
> the Pavoni PGC/PBC. (Vaneli's has one under the name "Mini Pro" for $160
> right now.)
>
> I believe that the cheapest Cunill grinders are still available from places
> like Sovrana and Cora for around $200; this is an incredible bargain for a
> grinder with a commercial burrset.

Interesting comparisons drawn against the Solis - stashed it away
under "fair-day" notes for consideration.



 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 08:21:41
From: shane
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 21, 9:05 am, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> "shane" <shane.ol...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187702944.093559.36550@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 21, 6:55 am, Randall Nortman <usenet8...@wonderclown.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2007-08-21, D. Ross <r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote:
> >> [...]
>
> >> > The problem with home conical grinders like the Solis Maestro is that
> >> > the
> >> > upper burr in the burrset 'floats', and tends to wear out after a year
> >> > of
> >> > use for espresso.
>
> >> This seems to have been fixed in the Virtuoso model, which has a more
> >> solid carrier for the upper burr. I haven't had mine for a year yet,
> >> but word on the street is that the problem is fixed.
>
> >> > (It is fine for French press etc., and OK for espresso
> >> > for a while.) If you are really looking for a cheap disposable
> >> > espresso
> >> > grinder, the Bodum Antigua has exactly the same burrset, off the same
> >> > assembly line, and is usually much cheaper.
>
> >> The Virtuoso also has a better burr set than the Maestro and Maestro
> >> Plus.
>
> >> --
> >> Randall
>
> > I will thorough in my 2 cents. I went along this path last year. I
> > have a Starbucks Barista espresso machine, which is made by Saeco. I
> > have a non-pressurised portafilter for it. I usually only make one
> > serving of coffee at a time. So the Barista works for me.
> > I bought a grinder last year, actually 2 grinders. To try and save
> > a few bucks I bought the Barzata Virtuoso. It only worked ok for
> > espresso, the grind was fine, but not fine enough and after a few
> > weeks I noticed the consistancy was off and getting worse. I just
> > don't think the thing was engineered to do proper espresso. The
> > plastic burr mount is just not as stable as it needs to be. The burrs
> > need to be really close for espresso and the Virtuoso does not seem to
> > handle that very well.
> > I ended up biting the bullet and ordering a Mazzer mini, just before a
> > price increase. The Mazzer does a good job and made a very noticable
> > difference in the quality of espresso that I could produce.
>
> > So now I have 2 grinders. The Virtuoso is used for French Press and
> > drip coffee, it does an excellent job on those.
>
> > I have not used a Gaggia MDF or even seen one in person, so I
> > cannot comment on how well it works. I would stick to grinders
> > designed as espresso grinders.
>
> > Shane
>
> Now, you've got me going, I was just getting ready to call a retailer about
> the Virtuoso. I probably won't be doing any French Press, perhaps drip some
> day, so a grinder that does espressly espresso would be better for me.
>
> Hmm, I thought the Barista 'was' designed as an espresso grinder. I guess
> not.
> Thanks for the information.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think the Virtuoso was designed to be a "do-everything" grinder, not
a dedicated espresso grinder. The burrset is good, however, I do not
think the plastic mounting works for espresso. If I were to do it
over I would look at the Gaggia MDF.

Shane



  
Date: 21 Aug 2007 13:06:11
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"shane" <shane.olson@juno.com > wrote in message
news:1187709701.179129.182940@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>
> I think the Virtuoso was designed to be a "do-everything" grinder, not
> a dedicated espresso grinder. The burrset is good, however, I do not
> think the plastic mounting works for espresso. If I were to do it
> over I would look at the Gaggia MDF.
>
> Shane

Thanks again. I called a retail store that is probably well known here and
asked them about the burr-ning questions that I had about the Virtuoso. I
will look into the Gaggia MDF for my need.
I'm so glad you posted when you did.
Dee




   
Date: 22 Aug 2007 08:43:53
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
"Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote:



    
Date: 22 Aug 2007 15:54:34
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"D. Ross" <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote in message
news:46cbf6b0.33604831@localhost...
> "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>


     
Date: 25 Aug 2007 09:40:50
From: D. Ross
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine


    
Date: 22 Aug 2007 11:43:43
From: Bill (Adopt)
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
In article <46cbf6b0.33604831@localhost >,
D. Ross <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu > wrote:
> "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net> wrote:

>


     
Date: 22 Aug 2007 15:56:08
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"Bill (Adopt)" <adopt@billsimpson.com > wrote in message
news:4f1650fb61adopt@billsimpson.com...
> In article <46cbf6b0.33604831@localhost>,
> D. Ross <ross@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote:
>> "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net> wrote:
>
>>


 
Date: 21 Aug 2007 06:29:04
From: shane
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 21, 6:55 am, Randall Nortman <usenet8...@wonderclown.com >
wrote:
> On 2007-08-21, D. Ross <r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The problem with home conical grinders like the Solis Maestro is that the
> > upper burr in the burrset 'floats', and tends to wear out after a year of
> > use for espresso.
>
> This seems to have been fixed in the Virtuoso model, which has a more
> solid carrier for the upper burr. I haven't had mine for a year yet,
> but word on the street is that the problem is fixed.
>
> > (It is fine for French press etc., and OK for espresso
> > for a while.) If you are really looking for a cheap disposable espresso
> > grinder, the Bodum Antigua has exactly the same burrset, off the same
> > assembly line, and is usually much cheaper.
>
> The Virtuoso also has a better burr set than the Maestro and Maestro
> Plus.
>
> --
> Randall

I will thorough in my 2 cents. I went along this path last year. I
have a Starbucks Barista espresso machine, which is made by Saeco. I
have a non-pressurised portafilter for it. I usually only make one
serving of coffee at a time. So the Barista works for me.
I bought a grinder last year, actually 2 grinders. To try and save
a few bucks I bought the Barzata Virtuoso. It only worked ok for
espresso, the grind was fine, but not fine enough and after a few
weeks I noticed the consistancy was off and getting worse. I just
don't think the thing was engineered to do proper espresso. The
plastic burr mount is just not as stable as it needs to be. The burrs
need to be really close for espresso and the Virtuoso does not seem to
handle that very well.
I ended up biting the bullet and ordering a Mazzer mini, just before a
price increase. The Mazzer does a good job and made a very noticable
difference in the quality of espresso that I could produce.

So now I have 2 grinders. The Virtuoso is used for French Press and
drip coffee, it does an excellent job on those.

I have not used a Gaggia MDF or even seen one in person, so I
cannot comment on how well it works. I would stick to grinders
designed as espresso grinders.

Shane



  
Date: 21 Aug 2007 10:05:01
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"shane" <shane.olson@juno.com > wrote in message
news:1187702944.093559.36550@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 21, 6:55 am, Randall Nortman <usenet8...@wonderclown.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2007-08-21, D. Ross <r...@math.hawaii.NOSPAM.edu> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> > The problem with home conical grinders like the Solis Maestro is that
>> > the
>> > upper burr in the burrset 'floats', and tends to wear out after a year
>> > of
>> > use for espresso.
>>
>> This seems to have been fixed in the Virtuoso model, which has a more
>> solid carrier for the upper burr. I haven't had mine for a year yet,
>> but word on the street is that the problem is fixed.
>>
>> > (It is fine for French press etc., and OK for espresso
>> > for a while.) If you are really looking for a cheap disposable
>> > espresso
>> > grinder, the Bodum Antigua has exactly the same burrset, off the same
>> > assembly line, and is usually much cheaper.
>>
>> The Virtuoso also has a better burr set than the Maestro and Maestro
>> Plus.
>>
>> --
>> Randall
>
> I will thorough in my 2 cents. I went along this path last year. I
> have a Starbucks Barista espresso machine, which is made by Saeco. I
> have a non-pressurised portafilter for it. I usually only make one
> serving of coffee at a time. So the Barista works for me.
> I bought a grinder last year, actually 2 grinders. To try and save
> a few bucks I bought the Barzata Virtuoso. It only worked ok for
> espresso, the grind was fine, but not fine enough and after a few
> weeks I noticed the consistancy was off and getting worse. I just
> don't think the thing was engineered to do proper espresso. The
> plastic burr mount is just not as stable as it needs to be. The burrs
> need to be really close for espresso and the Virtuoso does not seem to
> handle that very well.
> I ended up biting the bullet and ordering a Mazzer mini, just before a
> price increase. The Mazzer does a good job and made a very noticable
> difference in the quality of espresso that I could produce.
>
> So now I have 2 grinders. The Virtuoso is used for French Press and
> drip coffee, it does an excellent job on those.
>
> I have not used a Gaggia MDF or even seen one in person, so I
> cannot comment on how well it works. I would stick to grinders
> designed as espresso grinders.
>
> Shane

Now, you've got me going, I was just getting ready to call a retailer about
the Virtuoso. I probably won't be doing any French Press, perhaps drip some
day, so a grinder that does espressly espresso would be better for me.

Hmm, I thought the Barista 'was' designed as an espresso grinder. I guess
not.
Thanks for the information.
Dee Dee
>




 
Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:17:39
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 20, 8:02 am, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> "Danny" <da...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5isoe5F3qi3bjU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> >> I orderedhttp://tinyurl.com/2y9ggathis morning.
>
> >> I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, bu=
t I
> >> don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy;
> >> spend my money foolishly.
>
> > You can't overbuy a grinder. A good grinder purchase now will outlast
> > many espresso machine upgrades. Buy the absolute best you can stretch =
to.
> > Bare minimum for espresso use would be a Gaggia MDF. If you have space,
> > consider a used commercial grinder (or even new) off Ebay - in the UK =
=A3150
> > will get a Cunill or similar that will last forever with cheap burr
> > replacements. If cash strapped, something small like the Iberital or i=
t's
> > descendents over there (a conical burrset with infinite adjustment) will
> > be fine.
>
> > --
> > Regards, Danny
>
> Thanks for this site you've put together. Quite helpful.http://www.danny.=
mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/faq.html#equipment
>
> I see your information re dosers.
>
> "Burr grinders are available with dosers. These allow the correct amount=
of
> coffee to be dispensed. They are of little use in the home environment,
> since they need to be partially full to work properly, resulting in stale
> coffee if not used immediately, but many people prefer them to grinders t=
hat
> grind into a container or just from a chute. Just switch the grinder on =
and
> operate the doser as often as is needed to dispense the coffee."
>
> I don't want a doser. I see that the the Gaggia MDF's do have dosers.
>
> I can't decide whether this Gaggia is considered to have a doser or not =
in
> that it holds 'up to 6 oz. of beans.' I know that one would not have to p=
ut
> that many in, though.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2lcaer
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dee Dee

At your price projection, the Solis Maestro for $129 (Plus isn't but
$20 more), based on a quantitative measure of the broadest reaction.
When subjectively taken as a judgmental determination, it seems within
the same confidence level for the Starbucks Barista (another rebranded
Solis) to follow in suit.

FWIW Disclaimer: Ratings and Reviews - (w/out a relative Gaggia 7002
standing, authentic pricing, fair or discrete representation - simply
the most greatest value readily apparent).

http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders?Page=3D1&Sort=3Drating&Order=3D0=
&SeeAll=3D1



 
Date: 20 Aug 2007 12:22:45
From: lockjaw
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 20, 8:02 am, "Dee Dee" <deedo...@shentel.net > wrote:
> "Danny" <da...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5isoe5F3qi3bjU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> >> I orderedhttp://tinyurl.com/2y9ggathis morning.
>
> >> I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, bu=
t I
> >> don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy;
> >> spend my money foolishly.
>
> > You can't overbuy a grinder. A good grinder purchase now will outlast
> > many espresso machine upgrades. Buy the absolute best you can stretch =
to.
> > Bare minimum for espresso use would be a Gaggia MDF. If you have space,
> > consider a used commercial grinder (or even new) off Ebay - in the UK =
=A3150
> > will get a Cunill or similar that will last forever with cheap burr
> > replacements. If cash strapped, something small like the Iberital or i=
t's
> > descendents over there (a conical burrset with infinite adjustment) will
> > be fine.
>
> > --
> > Regards, Danny
>
> Thanks for this site you've put together. Quite helpful.http://www.danny.=
mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/faq.html#equipment
>
> I see your information re dosers.
>
> "Burr grinders are available with dosers. These allow the correct amount=
of
> coffee to be dispensed. They are of little use in the home environment,
> since they need to be partially full to work properly, resulting in stale
> coffee if not used immediately, but many people prefer them to grinders t=
hat
> grind into a container or just from a chute. Just switch the grinder on =
and
> operate the doser as often as is needed to dispense the coffee."
>
> I don't want a doser. I see that the the Gaggia MDF's do have dosers.
>
> I can't decide whether this Gaggia is considered to have a doser or not =
in
> that it holds 'up to 6 oz. of beans.' I know that one would not have to p=
ut
> that many in, though.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2lcaer
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dee Dee

After that sarcasm why press forward? Oh well.

Get a nice doserless Mazzer for 700, or a rocky for 300.

the grinder you linked to now is a true piece of crap, and will NOT
serve as an espresso grinder.

ask about pressureized portafilters -- like on the 'aroma'

and please, have a cup of coffee -- or something.

free advice is worth EXACTLY what you paid.



 
Date: 20 Aug 2007 07:38:20
From: lockjaw
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Aug 20, 1:51 am, Danny <da...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote:
> > I orderedhttp://tinyurl.com/2y9ggathis morning.
>
> > I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but=
I
> > don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; s=
pend
> > my money foolishly.
>
> > Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this=
type
> > of machine?
>
> > I've look online, and read minimally for a few hours, but am still tota=
lly
> > unknowledgeable.
>
> You can't overbuy a grinder. A good grinder purchase now will outlast
> many espresso machine upgrades. Buy the absolute best you can stretch
> to. Bare minimum for espresso use would be a Gaggia MDF. If you have
> space, consider a used commercial grinder (or even new) off Ebay - in
> the UK =A3150 will get a Cunill or similar that will last forever with
> cheap burr replacements. If cash strapped, something small like the
> Iberital or it's descendents over there (a conical burrset with
> infinite adjustment) will be fine.
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> (apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)

Well I gotta agree w/ Danny.
I owned a Gaggia MDF grinder for years and it was fine.

I question the choice of the Saeco.

for the same money -- or less -- and still from Amazon you could get a
new:

Gaggia 97001 Coffee Deluxe Espresso Machine Silver

or the:

Gaggia 87003 Espresso De Luxe Espresso Machine, Black.

both are superior and within budget.

the aroma is not a great machine.

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com

Saeco / Gaggia service SE



  
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From:
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 06:51:12
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
Dee Dee wrote:
> I ordered http://tinyurl.com/2y9gga this morning.
>
> I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
> don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; spend
> my money foolishly.
>
> Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this type
> of machine?
>
> I've look online, and read minimally for a few hours, but am still totally
> unknowledgeable.
>

You can't overbuy a grinder. A good grinder purchase now will outlast
many espresso machine upgrades. Buy the absolute best you can stretch
to. Bare minimum for espresso use would be a Gaggia MDF. If you have
space, consider a used commercial grinder (or even new) off Ebay - in
the UK 150 will get a Cunill or similar that will last forever with
cheap burr replacements. If cash strapped, something small like the
Iberital or it's descendents over there (a conical burrset with
infinite adjustment) will be fine.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)



  
Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:02:17
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"Danny" <danny@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote in message
news:5isoe5F3qi3bjU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dee Dee wrote:
>> I ordered http://tinyurl.com/2y9gga this morning.
>>
>> I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
>> don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy;
>> spend my money foolishly.
>>
> You can't overbuy a grinder. A good grinder purchase now will outlast
> many espresso machine upgrades. Buy the absolute best you can stretch to.
> Bare minimum for espresso use would be a Gaggia MDF. If you have space,
> consider a used commercial grinder (or even new) off Ebay - in the UK 150
> will get a Cunill or similar that will last forever with cheap burr
> replacements. If cash strapped, something small like the Iberital or it's
> descendents over there (a conical burrset with infinite adjustment) will
> be fine.
>
>
> --
> Regards, Danny



Thanks for this site you've put together. Quite helpful.
http://www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/faq.html#equipment

I see your information re dosers.

"Burr grinders are available with dosers. These allow the correct amount of
coffee to be dispensed. They are of little use in the home environment,
since they need to be partially full to work properly, resulting in stale
coffee if not used immediately, but many people prefer them to grinders that
grind into a container or just from a chute. Just switch the grinder on and
operate the doser as often as is needed to dispense the coffee."



I don't want a doser. I see that the the Gaggia MDF's do have dosers.



I can't decide whether this Gaggia is considered to have a doser or not in
that it holds 'up to 6 oz. of beans.' I know that one would not have to put
that many in, though.

http://tinyurl.com/2lcaer



Thanks.

Dee Dee














   
Date: 20 Aug 2007 16:55:59
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
Dee Dee wrote:

> Thanks for this site you've put together. Quite helpful.
> http://www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/faq.html#equipment
>
> I see your information re dosers.
>
> "Burr grinders are available with dosers. These allow the correct amount of
> coffee to be dispensed. They are of little use in the home environment,
> since they need to be partially full to work properly, resulting in stale
> coffee if not used immediately, but many people prefer them to grinders that
> grind into a container or just from a chute. Just switch the grinder on and
> operate the doser as often as is needed to dispense the coffee."
>
>
>
> I don't want a doser. I see that the the Gaggia MDF's do have dosers.
>
>
>
> I can't decide whether this Gaggia is considered to have a doser or not in
> that it holds 'up to 6 oz. of beans.' I know that one would not have to put
> that many in, though.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2lcaer

The model you link to is not appropriate for espresso. Many grinders
have dosers, and you have a choice. There are strong views in each
camp regards doser or not. I personally would not want a doserless
grinder. Dosers can be used manually - just switch the grinder on and
operate the doser until the pf is full. When you get to know your
grinder you will be able to tell how many seconds it takes to grind a
double, so then you can just grind for that time and dispense the results.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
(apparently bad grammar but I like it that way...)



 
Date: 19 Aug 2007 23:56:34
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:28:41 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net > wrote:

>I ordered http://tinyurl.com/2y9gga this morning.

Hmmm -- from what's on that page, is "Hug the Cook" a Macy's operation? I know
you like Macy's...

And it looks like they charge shipping, etc. In contrast, www.wholelattelove.com
sells the Aroma for the same $349, but they include a pound of beans, tax, and
shipping, plus have an excellent reputation for support. They also provide a
wealth of information about espresso equipment. They're pretty highly
recommended.

>I'm not sure whether this is considered a low-end espresso machine, but I
>don't want to overbuy a burr grinder. Neither do I want to underbuy; spend
>my money foolishly.
>
>Any sugggestions or recommendations on what grinder to purchse for this type
>of machine?

It's hard to overbuy on a grinder. The biggest decision is whether you want one
with a doser or doserless. You really need to decide that first. Then this group
and sites like the above will give you a lot of good information.

-- Larry


  
Date: 20 Aug 2007 07:24:28
From: Dee Dee
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for burr grinder for Saeco machine

"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
news:4q3ic3dpcqetrkecnbrssn4e76ap9r9jmp@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:28:41 -0400, "Dee Dee" <deedovey@shentel.net>
> wrote:
>
> The biggest decision is whether you want one
> with a doser or doserless. You really need to decide that first. Then this
> group
> and sites like the above will give you a lot of good information.
>
> -- Larry

Thanks for this information. You've cut to the chase.
Dee Dee