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Date: 27 Feb 2007 18:09:33
From: phreaddy
Subject: New York City 'spresso supplies
Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.





 
Date: 03 Mar 2007 05:46:43
From: daveb
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
On 2, 2:58 pm, Neal Reid <NealR...@Nagma.ca > wrote:
> In article <4amdncwAxPP_eHjYnZ2dnUVZ_tadn...@comcast.com>,
> "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been thinking about where to get aluminum chloride 6-H20 (6-hydrate,
> > hexahydrate) cheaply.
>
> My father used this in place of deodorant all the time - walked up
> to the prescription counter in any drugstore and asked for it...
>
> --
> M for N in address to mail reply

yeah mine did too, back in the day.

He stopped when he found it rotted out the armpits of his dress
shirts.

dave



 
Date: 28 Feb 2007 09:30:12
From: daveb
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
On Feb 27, 9:09 pm, "phreaddy" <phrea...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
> for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
> really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.

Or right up the road, in Yonkers is Urnex!
everything you would ever need.


dave



 
Date: 28 Feb 2007 09:23:43
From: phreaddy
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
On Feb 28, 1:34 am, "I- >Ian" <some...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:44:50 -0800, Roque Ja wrote:
> >I buy food-grade citric acid at my local coop grocery where it's sold
> >it in bulk for almost nothing (really, 10cents/oz, essentially free).
> >Do you have a food store that sells bulk goods? Things like spices,
> >flour, beans? Or are some things better in Smallville than in Gotham?
>
> In LA, I could not find it in health or whole food shops, so bought a
> lifetime supply for me and me pals online from the link Harmon posted.http://tinyurl.com/l9ozc
>
> >On 27 Feb 2007 18:09:33 -0800, "phreaddy" <phrea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
> >>for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
> >>really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.
>
> >_______________________________________
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> >offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
> >If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
> >me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate.
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Thanks, everyone. The Indian groceries are probably my best bet.



 
Date: 28 Feb 2007 06:45:16
From:
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
Another option is a winemaking supply store, I just bought a pound
of food-grade citric acid at such a store for $4.99.



 
Date: 28 Feb 2007 09:23:22
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
Ooh, you are lucky to live in such a multiethnic city. One possibility is
a grocery with a kosher section. Citric acid is sold in the (kosher) spice
section as "sour salt". In addition to cleaning your espresso machine, it's
very good for borscht - a pinch adds a clean sour taste without the flavor
of vinegar or lemon juice. A bottle (4 to 6 oz or something like that)
should be all of $1.

Another possibility is an Indian (as in India, not native American) grocery
store. It's labeled as citric acid and usually sold in a cellophane bag.
Again a buck or 2. I believe the Indians use it to clabber (curdle) milk
for homemade cheese (paneer).



"phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1172628573.340197.96010@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
> for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
> really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.
>
>




  
Date: 28 Feb 2007 10:30:26
From: bernie
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
Jack Denver wrote:

> Ooh, you are lucky to live in such a multiethnic city. One possibility is
> a grocery with a kosher section. Citric acid is sold in the (kosher) spice
> section as "sour salt". In addition to cleaning your espresso machine, it's
> very good for borscht - a pinch adds a clean sour taste without the flavor
> of vinegar or lemon juice. A bottle (4 to 6 oz or something like that)
> should be all of $1.
>
> Another possibility is an Indian (as in India, not native American) grocery
> store. It's labeled as citric acid and usually sold in a cellophane bag.
> Again a buck or 2. I believe the Indians use it to clabber (curdle) milk
> for homemade cheese (paneer).
>
>
>
> "phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1172628573.340197.96010@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
>>for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
>>really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.
>>
>>
>
>
>

I'm curious about the dilution folks use in descaling. What do you
use, Jack?
Bernie


   
Date: 28 Feb 2007 21:39:25
From: Danny
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
bernie wrote:

> I'm curious about the dilution folks use in descaling. What do you
> use, Jack?
> Bernie

I'd like to know how to dilute Formic acid which is what my espresso
machine spares supplier sells, with absolutely no instructions. I
just add enough to make the object fizz but not disintegrate :)


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)



   
Date: 28 Feb 2007 15:26:09
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
I use about 2 oz. (60g) per liter of water, but I don't think it's critical
to be exact.

I've been thinking about where to get aluminum chloride 6-H20 (6-hydrate,
hexahydrate) cheaply. This is the "secret ingredient" in Scale Kleen that
"activates" the citric acid and makes it work faster. See patent 4,747,975.
I think it's in some deodorants and you can buy lab grade for something like
$20 for 500g, but there must be a cheaper way to get it. I haven't worked
out the molar chemistry from the patent to figure how much AlCl3.6H20 you'd
need per g of citric.


"bernie" <bdigman@zianet.com > wrote in message
news:45e5bc32@nntp.zianet.com...
>>
>
> I'm curious about the dilution folks use in descaling. What do you use,
> Jack?
> Bernie
>




    
Date: 02 Mar 2007 14:58:31
From: Neal Reid
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
In article <4amdncwAxPP_eHjYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net > wrote:

> I've been thinking about where to get aluminum chloride 6-H20 (6-hydrate,
> hexahydrate) cheaply.

My father used this in place of deodorant all the time - walked up
to the prescription counter in any drugstore and asked for it...

--
M for N in address to mail reply


     
Date: 02 Mar 2007 17:51:13
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
I said cheaply - a 2 fl ounce bottle of Drysol (20% solution) is something
like $15 . I could get 500g of crystal reagent grade for under $30, but
even that is much too good. That's what they charge for reagent grade citric
as well (have to pay for those fancy bottles) but the food grade is maybe
$2/ lb. To use as a descaler it doesn't have to be especially pure or lab
grade - it all gets rinsed out anyway. I can't think of a common use where
you could buy Al Cl. by the pound or sackful.






"Neal Reid" <NealReid@Nagma.ca > wrote in message
news:NealReid-6C8A73.14583002032007@news.isp.giganews.com...
> In article <4amdncwAxPP_eHjYnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking about where to get aluminum chloride 6-H20 (6-hydrate,
>> hexahydrate) cheaply.
>
> My father used this in place of deodorant all the time - walked up
> to the prescription counter in any drugstore and asked for it...
>
> --
> M for N in address to mail reply
>




    
Date: 28 Feb 2007 14:57:20
From: bernie
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
Jack Denver wrote:
> I use about 2 oz. (60g) per liter of water, but I don't think it's critical
> to be exact.
>
> I've been thinking about where to get aluminum chloride 6-H20 (6-hydrate,
> hexahydrate) cheaply. This is the "secret ingredient" in Scale Kleen that
> "activates" the citric acid and makes it work faster. See patent 4,747,975.
> I think it's in some deodorants and you can buy lab grade for something like
> $20 for 500g, but there must be a cheaper way to get it. I haven't worked
> out the molar chemistry from the patent to figure how much AlCl3.6H20 you'd
> need per g of citric.
>
>
> "bernie" <bdigman@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:45e5bc32@nntp.zianet.com...
>
>> I'm curious about the dilution folks use in descaling. What do you use,
>>Jack?
>>Bernie
>>
>
>
>

Thanks. Just call the folks at Scale Kleen and tell 'em you are an
altie and need some info. heh heh.
Bernie


 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 18:44:50
From:
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
I buy food-grade citric acid at my local coop grocery where it's sold
it in bulk for almost nothing (really, 10cents/oz, essentially free).
Do you have a food store that sells bulk goods? Things like spices,
flour, beans? Or are some things better in Smallville than in Gotham?

On 27 Feb 2007 18:09:33 -0800, "phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com > wrote:

>Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
>for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
>really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.





_______________________________________
Please Note: If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate.


  
Date: 27 Feb 2007 22:34:30
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: New York City 'spresso supplies
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:44:50 -0800, Roque Ja wrote:

>I buy food-grade citric acid at my local coop grocery where it's sold
>it in bulk for almost nothing (really, 10cents/oz, essentially free).
>Do you have a food store that sells bulk goods? Things like spices,
>flour, beans? Or are some things better in Smallville than in Gotham?
>

In LA, I could not find it in health or whole food shops, so bought a
lifetime supply for me and me pals online from the link Harmon posted.
http://tinyurl.com/l9ozc

>On 27 Feb 2007 18:09:33 -0800, "phreaddy" <phreaddy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone know where I can find citric acid for descaling my boiler (or,
>>for that matter, other espresso supplies) here in the Big Apple? I
>>really don't want to buy it online and double the cost, with shipping.
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________
>Please Note: If you find a posting or message from me
>offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
>If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
>me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com