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Date: 10 Oct 2006 14:55:26
From: Seth
Subject: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."


Form an article in the University of Nevada's Outpost:

"There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says,
laughing. "Mediocre implications, at best. If [consumers] like what
they're getting, that's all that matters. Espresso is a process. The
accepted standards for that process are not met by any 'home espresso'
machine."



Full text here:
http://www.jour.unr.edu/Outpost/Dining/archives/din.banks.grounds.html





 
Date: 10 Oct 2006 16:10:12
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."

Seth wrote:
> Form an article in the University of Nevada's Outpost:

> Full text here:
> http://www.jour.unr.edu/Outpost/Dining/archives/din.banks.grounds.html

Something along an observation, within some bias, than the coffee
zealot presentment. Two sugar derivatives and water. Interesting.
Technically, greatest taste complexity exists between the surface and
inside of the roast, except with an applied espresso method, which to
some sense over-compensates and negates complexity. Both could
probably use development to advantage. Complexity, nice word. If to
say, then, espresso should be different tasting than an ideal
complexity of the former. Doesn't like freezing beans - sure be nice to
see some agreement on that. Vacuumed and froze mine not long ago.
Doesn't like espresso machines for the home - evidently lacking a
higher quality. Quite a leveler without further qualifying standards,
not individual preferences is unreked . Density of foam is a good
take in explaining the physical effect of latte art. Claims to drink as
much as 24 cups of coffee a day, and also has received SCAA's elite
Golden Cup Award and lives in Latter Day Saint territory. A mouthful
and then some.

What, somebody from staff go out an interview a local proprietor?



  
Date: 13 Oct 2006 13:00:52
From: EricC
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."
"There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says, laughing.

Posted April 9, 1999
Copyright 1999 Nevada Outpost

See above, this was written in 1999



"Flasherly" <gjerrell@ij.net > wrote in message
news:1160521812.783255.291340@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Seth wrote:
>> Form an article in the University of Nevada's Outpost:
>
>> Full text here:
>> http://www.jour.unr.edu/Outpost/Dining/archives/din.banks.grounds.html
>
> Something along an observation, within some bias, than the coffee
> zealot presentment. Two sugar derivatives and water. Interesting.
> Technically, greatest taste complexity exists between the surface and
> inside of the roast, except with an applied espresso method, which to
> some sense over-compensates and negates complexity. Both could
> probably use development to advantage. Complexity, nice word. If to
> say, then, espresso should be different tasting than an ideal
> complexity of the former. Doesn't like freezing beans - sure be nice to
> see some agreement on that. Vacuumed and froze mine not long ago.
> Doesn't like espresso machines for the home - evidently lacking a
> higher quality. Quite a leveler without further qualifying standards,
> not individual preferences is unreked . Density of foam is a good
> take in explaining the physical effect of latte art. Claims to drink as
> much as 24 cups of coffee a day, and also has received SCAA's elite
> Golden Cup Award and lives in Latter Day Saint territory. A mouthful
> and then some.
>
> What, somebody from staff go out an interview a local proprietor?
>




   
Date: 14 Oct 2006 09:41:25
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."
"EricC" <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com > wrote:

>"There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says, laughing.
>
>Posted April 9, 1999
>Copyright 1999 Nevada Outpost
>
>See above, this was written in 1999
>

As well as the E-Mail contact link on the page bounced...


Randy "boingy boingy" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




   
Date: 14 Oct 2006 06:16:50
From: Mike Hartigan
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."
In article <IoGdnfCGA5dj4rLYRVnyug@bt.com >,
eric.calderwood@btinternet.com says...
> "There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says, laughing.
>
> Posted April 9, 1999
> Copyright 1999 Nevada Outpost
>
> See above, this was written in 1999
>

While the picture certainly looks different today, I dare say, there
were more than a few real home espresso machines available in 1999.

--
-Mike


    
Date: 14 Oct 2006 11:50:48
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."
>While the picture certainly looks different today, I dare say, there
>were more than a few real home espresso machines available in 1999.
>
>--
>-Mike

Yep. Silvia, Imat, Gaggia, Solis, and even Saeco/Spidem. In fact, Saeco had
been producing 300ml brass boiler machines with 53mm portafilters since the
late 1970's, and OEMing them out since the mid 1980's. And given reasonable
quality grinders those machines (many of which are still working) could
produce better espresso than anything I could find being served anywhere in
the USA in 1999. The major problem back then wasn't so much the lack of
"home espresso machines", but the want of appreciation of the importance of
the grinder to the whole process.


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au




   
Date: 13 Oct 2006 14:20:20
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."

"EricC" <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com > wrote in message
news:IoGdnfCGA5dj4rLYRVnyug@bt.com...
> "There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says, laughing.
>
> Posted April 9, 1999
> Copyright 1999 Nevada Outpost
>
> See above, this was written in 1999
>
>

that's why they call it "new"s :-)




 
Date: 10 Oct 2006 22:10:04
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: "No such thing as a 'home espresso' machine."
On 10 Oct 2006 14:55:26 -0700, "Seth" <offchord@hotmail.com > wrote:

>
>
>Form an article in the University of Nevada's Outpost:
>
>"There's no such thing as a 'home espresso' machine," he says,
>laughing. "Mediocre implications, at best. If [consumers] like what
>they're getting, that's all that matters. Espresso is a process. The
>accepted standards for that process are not met by any 'home espresso'
>machine."
>
>
>
>Full text here:
>http://www.jour.unr.edu/Outpost/Dining/archives/din.banks.grounds.html

Brilliant! Line 1 : The formula for coffee is the same as caffeine.
No doubt the writer is a summa cum laude graduate!