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Date: 05 Aug 2007 19:01:45
From: Strijelac
Subject: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know how
to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague. Is
that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?

Thanks.




 
Date: 13 Aug 2007 12:54:40
From:
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
On Aug 10, 12:55 pm, "Ed Needham" <e...@NOSPAMhomeroaster.com > wrote:
> The purpose is to allow typical purchasers to use coffee that's not properly
> ground, and likely stale to still produce something that looks like crema.
> Let's face it, it takes a pretty decent machine and a lot of futzing to get
> a shot with decent taste and crema. At least with the crema device, they
> get the crema, and 'maybe' a taste that's good enough.
> Using that machine, with great coffee, ground and tamped properly, it can
> produce excellent espresso with great crema, without the crema device.
> --
> *********************
> Ed Needham
> "to absurdity and beyond!"http://www.homeroaster.com
> *********************
>
> "Robert Harmon" <Texas_Cof...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:13bp067dlubo9d9@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
> > It's Gaggia's attempt to convert a perfectly functional portafilter/filter
> > combination into a pseudo pressurized unit. It is a rubber disk with a
> > single tiny hole in it that all of the coffee must pass through. I remove
> > them from machines I resell just to stop such questions from popping up.
> > --
> > Robert Harmon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ed,

How does the "perfect crema" device work on the Gaggia? I have the
Brikka, and love the darn thing. Is it anything like that?

Len


=====================
http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
my blog: http://coffeeroastersclub.caffeblog.com



  
Date: 13 Aug 2007 15:12:28
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
The perfect crema device is a rubber disk that fits under the filter basket
in the portafilter. It has a tiny hole, reinforced with a steel washer to
prevent blowouts, in the center of the disk. That's the shot's only exit
from the filter/portafilter, so the coffee is being compressed & released
under pressure into the cup, resulting in the coffee being *foamed*, which
creates a false crema.

Instead of the very small, flavorful, long lasting, & cohesive bubbles
associated with crema, you get loose *foam* that dissipates quickly and has
little or no flavor. The perfect crema device isn't bad but I would call it
a bit deceitful; as Ed noted, it's purpose is to allow a novice to use any
coffee, of any age, ground to whatever coarseness, and still achieve
something approaching real espresso with crema.
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
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> How does the "perfect crema" device work on the Gaggia? I have the
> Brikka, and love the darn thing. Is it anything like that?
>
> Len
>
>
> =====================
> http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
> my blog: http://coffeeroastersclub.caffeblog.com
>




   
Date: 14 Aug 2007 00:42:33
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
What he said.
--
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
*********************


"Robert Harmon" wrote in message news:13c1eo2ku6ut17a@corp.supernews.com...
> The perfect crema device is a rubber disk that fits under the filter
> basket in the portafilter. It has a tiny hole, reinforced with a steel
> washer to prevent blowouts, in the center of the disk. That's the shot's
> only exit from the filter/portafilter, so the coffee is being compressed &
> released under pressure into the cup, resulting in the coffee being
> *foamed*, which creates a false crema.
>
> Instead of the very small, flavorful, long lasting, & cohesive bubbles
> associated with crema, you get loose *foam* that dissipates quickly and
> has little or no flavor. The perfect crema device isn't bad but I would
> call it a bit deceitful; as Ed noted, it's purpose is to allow a novice to
> use any coffee, of any age, ground to whatever coarseness, and still
> achieve something approaching real espresso with crema.
> --
> Robert Harmon

> snipped
>
>> How does the "perfect crema" device work on the Gaggia? I have the
>> Brikka, and love the darn thing. Is it anything like that?
>>
>> Len




 
Date: 10 Aug 2007 06:11:08
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
On Aug 5, 1:01 pm, Strijelac
<izbrisiovoprijeslanjastrije...@softhome.net > wrote:
> Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know how
> to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague. Is
> that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?
>
> Thanks.

It's to compensate for people that want a result closer to perfect
espresso without being overly concerned with grinding or tamping. A
spring-loaded resistance plate, least the last one I took apart (not a
Gaggia), determines a set pressure the PF must first overcome, to
compensate for what Gaggia considers a likely optimal for extracting
mounds and mounds of sweetly concentrated, frothed crema. Of course,
as with perfect and truthful, you may choose either, but not both.



 
Date: 10 Aug 2007 11:25:17
From: lockjaw
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
On Aug 5, 1:01 pm, Strijelac
<izbrisiovoprijeslanjastrije...@softhome.net > wrote:
> Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know how
> to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague. Is
> that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?
>
> Thanks.

Work with it, use it. If it gets the results you want -- Excellent.

3 tips: Keep it clean
and use fresh cold low fat or skim milk.
and a small SS pitcher of no more than 12 oz cap.

Dave

www.hitechespresso.com
877 286 2833



  
Date: 10 Aug 2007 10:17:01
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
Tsk, tsk. Stick to hawking your products, Dave.
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
"lockjaw" <davebobbl@gmail.com > wrote in message
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> Work with it, use it. If it gets the results you want -- Excellent.
>
> 3 tips: Keep it clean
> and use fresh cold low fat or skim milk.
> and a small SS pitcher of no more than 12 oz cap.
>
> Dave
>
> www.hitechespresso.com
> 877 286 2833
>




   
Date: 10 Aug 2007 12:46:30
From: daveb
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
"Tsk, tsk. Stick to hawking your products, Dave."

Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.




  
Date: 10 Aug 2007 09:46:49
From: Coffee Contact
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia

"lockjaw" <davebobbl@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1186745117.163934.146030@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 5, 1:01 pm, Strijelac
> <izbrisiovoprijeslanjastrije...@softhome.net> wrote:
>> Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know
>> how
>> to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague.
>> Is
>> that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Work with it, use it. If it gets the results you want -- Excellent.
>
> 3 tips: Keep it clean
> and use fresh cold low fat or skim milk.
> and a small SS pitcher of no more than 12 oz cap.
>
> Dave
>

I thought the 'Perfect Crema' device was placed in the portafilter, under
the filter basket. I have to agree with RH, throw it away.

Terry M




   
Date: 10 Aug 2007 10:14:51
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
It's Gaggia's attempt to convert a perfectly functional portafilter/filter
combination into a pseudo pressurized unit. It is a rubber disk with a
single tiny hole in it that all of the coffee must pass through. I remove
them from machines I resell just to stop such questions from popping up.
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
"Coffee Contact" <coffee@nb.aibn.com > wrote in message
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>
> "lockjaw" <davebobbl@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1186745117.163934.146030@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 5, 1:01 pm, Strijelac
>> <izbrisiovoprijeslanjastrije...@softhome.net> wrote:
>>> Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know
>>> how
>>> to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague.
>>> Is
>>> that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Work with it, use it. If it gets the results you want -- Excellent.
>>
>> 3 tips: Keep it clean
>> and use fresh cold low fat or skim milk.
>> and a small SS pitcher of no more than 12 oz cap.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> I thought the 'Perfect Crema' device was placed in the portafilter, under
> the filter basket. I have to agree with RH, throw it away.
>
> Terry M
>




    
Date: 10 Aug 2007 12:55:06
From: Ed Needham
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
The purpose is to allow typical purchasers to use coffee that's not properly
ground, and likely stale to still produce something that looks like crema.
Let's face it, it takes a pretty decent machine and a lot of futzing to get
a shot with decent taste and crema. At least with the crema device, they
get the crema, and 'maybe' a taste that's good enough.
Using that machine, with great coffee, ground and tamped properly, it can
produce excellent espresso with great crema, without the crema device.
--
*********************
Ed Needham
"to absurdity and beyond!"
http://www.homeroaster.com
*********************

"Robert Harmon" <Texas_Coffee@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:13bp067dlubo9d9@corp.supernews.com...
> It's Gaggia's attempt to convert a perfectly functional portafilter/filter
> combination into a pseudo pressurized unit. It is a rubber disk with a
> single tiny hole in it that all of the coffee must pass through. I remove
> them from machines I resell just to stop such questions from popping up.
> --
> Robert Harmon




 
Date: 09 Aug 2007 21:06:35
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: "Perfect crema" device in Gaggia
Best use for it is to toss it in the trash - no kidding!

--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
"Strijelac" <izbrisiovoprijeslanjastrijelac@softhome.net > wrote in message
news:d2ad5upmmxlj$.18zc936zovboj.dlg@40tude.net...
> Just bought Gaggia Evolution. Very satisfied with it. Does anybody know
> how
> to use "Perfect crema" device because the instructions are little vague.
> Is
> that something for beginners, or is it really usefull?
>
> Thanks.