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Date: 26 Sep 2006 22:03:48
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Popper roasting
I have been using several Poppery II's for roasting for several years. Some
have posted that the original Poppery I is better. I see a difference in
shape from pictures, but what features are different? I have seven of the
Poppery II's that I have picked up in thrift stores or yard sales, but I've
not run across any of the Poppery I models.






 
Date: 02 Oct 2006 17:24:07
From: Leo95se
Subject: Re: Popper roasting
could you point me to some pics of this? i have the same model and am
looking to split the inputs as you have..
thx!

Jim wrote:

> I do that mod with the cheap Chinese Toastmaster popper. It's the first
> model I found with a switch, and I can pick them up at second hand
> stores for about $3. The biggest PITA is the grommet on the power cord,
> and the short interior wires. At least in this model, there is also
> some heat from the motor only circuit. I have a variac for other
> reasons, but never felt a need to try it. I find that I can control
> things very well by SHORT and frequent cycles to fan only. The coils
> coil down in about a second.
>
> I expect that the Toastmaster is not as reliable (but readily available
> an cheap). I think I've gone through three in about two years, roasting
> about once a week or so.
>
> I put an old salmon can in the top as a chimney (tapered can fits right
> in), I also roast at a slight angle, so the beans recycle from top to
> bottom. I try to load it up so it has a bit of a time starting out, but
> once you hit yellow stage the beans recycle without need for stirring.
>
>
>
> As mentioned, 115VAC fan that
> > can be boosted. Cast aluminum with solid Bakelite roasting chamber.
> >
> > Only downside for me was the size of the batches. Enter, RK Drum.
> >
> > Rich Adams
> >
> >



  
Date: 03 Oct 2006 10:40:13
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Popper roasting
Leo95se wrote:
> could you point me to some pics of this? i have the same model and am
> looking to split the inputs as you have..
> thx!

Here's what I worked off of. It worked for me, but I have an
understanding of electrical work. Proceed at your own risk!

Tom b. wrote:
> Unplug unit. File bolt to make triangle shaped screwdriver for anti
tamper
> screws. Pop out switch by wedging screwdriver under top or bottom edge,
> remove connectors from switch. Grab the power wire base with pliers
hard and
> pull it out. Unscrew all screws, remove unit from case. Inspect for
damage
> from pulling things. Cut switch connectors from the black wires
they're on,
> and splice the black wire ends together. Cut the white wire leading to
> chamber, splice connectors to the cut ends. Consult an electrician (I'll
> accept no liability for my advice), reassemble, and try it out. For great
> success you'll want a thermocouple in the chamber, try sears for a
$30 temp
> reading multimeter w/ thermocouple, or sweet ia's has one, or omega..
> tom:)


>
> Jim wrote:
>
>
>>I do that mod with the cheap Chinese Toastmaster popper. It's the first
>>model I found with a switch, and I can pick them up at second hand
>>stores for about $3. The biggest PITA is the grommet on the power cord,
>>and the short interior wires. At least in this model, there is also
>>some heat from the motor only circuit. I have a variac for other
>>reasons, but never felt a need to try it. I find that I can control
>>things very well by SHORT and frequent cycles to fan only. The coils
>>coil down in about a second.
>>
>>I expect that the Toastmaster is not as reliable (but readily available
>>an cheap). I think I've gone through three in about two years, roasting
>>about once a week or so.
>>
>>I put an old salmon can in the top as a chimney (tapered can fits right
>>in), I also roast at a slight angle, so the beans recycle from top to
>>bottom. I try to load it up so it has a bit of a time starting out, but
>>once you hit yellow stage the beans recycle without need for stirring.
>>
>>
>>
>> As mentioned, 115VAC fan that
>>
>>>can be boosted. Cast aluminum with solid Bakelite roasting chamber.
>>>
>>>Only downside for me was the size of the batches. Enter, RK Drum.
>>>
>>>Rich Adams
>>>
>>>
>
>


 
Date: 26 Sep 2006 21:43:47
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Popper roasting
"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote:

>I have been using several Poppery II's for roasting for several years. Some
>have posted that the original Poppery I is better. I see a difference in
>shape from pictures, but what features are different? I have seven of the
>Poppery II's that I have picked up in thrift stores or yard sales, but I've
>not run across any of the Poppery I models.
>

The I was more robust- weighs quite a bit more with a heavier ceramic
heating element support and other parts as I remember. Have run across
three or four I's (given all of them away), but they seem to be
scarcer as time goes by, which makes sense...


Randy "ucky popper kawfee" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 14:45:00
From: Rich Adams
Subject: Re: Popper roasting

> The I was more robust- weighs quite a bit more


7 pounds versus 1.7 pounds IIRC. Super simple to rewire in order to
separate fan and heater using standard tools. As mentioned, 115VAC fan that
can be boosted. Cast aluminum with solid Bakelite roasting chamber.

Only downside for me was the size of the batches. Enter, RK Drum.

Rich Adams




   
Date: 27 Sep 2006 11:02:10
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Popper roasting
Rich Adams wrote:
>>The I was more robust- weighs quite a bit more
>
>
>
> 7 pounds versus 1.7 pounds IIRC. Super simple to rewire in order to
> separate fan and heater using standard tools.

I do that mod with the cheap Chinese Toastmaster popper. It's the first
model I found with a switch, and I can pick them up at second hand
stores for about $3. The biggest PITA is the grommet on the power cord,
and the short interior wires. At least in this model, there is also
some heat from the motor only circuit. I have a variac for other
reasons, but never felt a need to try it. I find that I can control
things very well by SHORT and frequent cycles to fan only. The coils
coil down in about a second.

I expect that the Toastmaster is not as reliable (but readily available
an cheap). I think I've gone through three in about two years, roasting
about once a week or so.

I put an old salmon can in the top as a chimney (tapered can fits right
in), I also roast at a slight angle, so the beans recycle from top to
bottom. I try to load it up so it has a bit of a time starting out, but
once you hit yellow stage the beans recycle without need for stirring.



As mentioned, 115VAC fan that
> can be boosted. Cast aluminum with solid Bakelite roasting chamber.
>
> Only downside for me was the size of the batches. Enter, RK Drum.
>
> Rich Adams
>
>


  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 03:37:33
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Popper roasting

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:d80kh2l8c796uf5mpa1epl775p4a7bv4ob@4ax.com...
> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote:
>
> >I have been using several Poppery II's for roasting for several years.
Some
> >have posted that the original Poppery I is better. I see a difference in
> >shape from pictures, but what features are different? I have seven of
the
> >Poppery II's that I have picked up in thrift stores or yard sales, but
I've
> >not run across any of the Poppery I models.
> >
>
> The I was more robust- weighs quite a bit more with a heavier ceramic
> heating element support and other parts as I remember. Have run across
> three or four I's (given all of them away), but they seem to be
> scarcer as time goes by, which makes sense...
>
>
Also on the PI the motor is 110V.




 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 03:59:44
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Popper roasting
Look for a White-Westinghouse. They're clones of the PI.
--
Robert (popping off again) Harmon
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"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote in message
news:7pydneR_y_-Td4TYnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net...
>I have been using several Poppery II's for roasting for several years.
>Some have posted that the original Poppery I is better. I see a difference
>in shape from pictures, but what features are different? I have seven of
>the Poppery II's that I have picked up in thrift stores or yard sales, but
>I've not run across any of the Poppery I models.
>