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Date: 29 Jun 2007 21:21:42
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
I'm sending an old-style Gaggia Coffee out for powder coating next week
(it'll house the twin boiler mod I've been working on).

Take a look at the colors available: http://tinyurl.com/2yby7k. Right now my
favorites are, Chevy Orange, Orange Yellow, Bright Red, Dark Green & Ford
Blue.

What would be your choices?
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.






 
Date: 01 Jul 2007 18:23:18
From:
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
On Jul 1, 12:13 pm, "Robert Harmon" <r_h_har...@Zhotmail.com > wrote:
> "Felix" <felix...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183300322.983445.131620@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Robert Harmon (...hotmail.com) wants:
> >> I'm also looking for one of the oldGaggiaMDF grinders
> >> (all metal, not plastic like the current models) that I can
> >> have done the same color if anyone has one they'd like
> >> to get rid of *v*e*r*y**c*h*e*a*p*l*y*?
>
> > Maybe a broken one ...
>
> Broken, as in...?
>
> > I had the same idea a while ago, and discovered two problems.
> > Refinishing an oldGaggiamachine is easy, partly because the old
> > finish is so easy to remove. The grinder's finish is more tenacious,
> > and several of mine had a frozen doser screw that prevented me from
> > completely disassembling them.
>
> No finish is too tenacious for a glass-bead blasting & commercial stripping
> chemicals.
>
> Frozen screw? Isn't that why God made the Easy Out & heli-coil?
>
> > The worst one had a wiring fault: the insulation had flaked off both
> > motor leads, and though the new wires and splices were well made (in
> > my opinion), I had to instruct its new owner to discard it if that
> > fault reappears. Obviously, a newer metal MDF is less likely to have
> > this problem than an older one. There was a period when these had 34
> > settings instead of 39, shortly before the body became plastic ...
>
> Wiring *is* tricky - I use single strand wire - it holds up better.
>
> > In short :-) caveat emptor.
>
> It's worth doing once, as an exercise; we'll see what comes out of this
> exercise.
>
> If I wanted to seriously get into custom machines it would have to be
> machines like a Nuova Simonelli Mac or Bunn ES-1A & Mazzer SJ. Then you'd be
> starting at $650 - $800 for the machines, ~$100 for a PID kit, ~$100 for
> assorted replacement parts, and you'll have ~$1000 invested before you start
> disassembling & prepping the machines for finishing. Add $200-$400 for
> powder coating anf for ~$1500 you'll have a kick ass espresso making setup.
>
> Or you could go theGaggiaCoffee/MDF route & for ~$400 you'll have a
> customized setup that'll bring out the green-eyed monster in most folks! Has
> anyone looked into making brass or copper replacentboilerforGaggia
> machines?
>
> It's all cool, man!

GAGGIA BRASS REPLACEMENT BOILER!!! OMG!! >>YOU SAID IT!!.

I"VE BEEN WONDERING WHEN SOMEONE WOULD GET ON THIS ALREADY >

I"M IN THE SAME BOAT. I WOULD PAY $100.00 EASY FOR THAT PART.

EVEN IF IT MEANT A SACRIFICE ON WARM UP TIMES.

>
> --
> Robert Harmon
> --http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj- My coffee pages.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87- My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2- I have things for sale here.




 
Date: 01 Jul 2007 13:07:59
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
Robert Harmon (...hotmail.com) responds:
> No finish is too tenacious for a glass-bead blasting
> & commercial stripping chemicals.
>
> Frozen screw? Isn't that why God made the Easy Out
> & heli-coil?

I didn't say the project was impossible. I merely described issues
that made me abandon it. The initial cost may be higher than you
budgeted, because old MDF's still have market value. The effort needed
to prepare the grinder for refinishing may be greater than expected,
and the result might not last that long. But if you're just going to
sell it to someone who likes nice looking equipment ...

> It's worth doing once, as an exercise; we'll see what
> comes out of this exercise.

If it goes smoothly, be wary of extrapolating from that one result.
Good luck.


Felix



 
Date: 01 Jul 2007 07:32:02
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
Robert Harmon (...hotmail.com) wants:
> I'm also looking for one of the old Gaggia MDF grinders
> (all metal, not plastic like the current models) that I can
> have done the same color if anyone has one they'd like
> to get rid of *v*e*r*y**c*h*e*a*p*l*y*?

Maybe a broken one ... ones that still work appear at eBay now and
then. For a while, I bought most of them, cleaned them, etc. and gave/
sold them to friends. In fact, putting away the leftover parts is one
of the tasks on this weekend's agenda.

I had the same idea a while ago, and discovered two problems.
Refinishing an old Gaggia machine is easy, partly because the old
finish is so easy to remove. The grinder's finish is more tenacious,
and several of mine had a frozen doser screw that prevented me from
completely disassembling them.

The worst one had a wiring fault: the insulation had flaked off both
motor leads, and though the new wires and splices were well made (in
my opinion), I had to instruct its new owner to discard it if that
fault reappears. Obviously, a newer metal MDF is less likely to have
this problem than an older one. There was a period when these had 34
settings instead of 39, shortly before the body became plastic ...

In short :-) caveat emptor.


Felix

p.s. I wanted fire engine red, but now I'd pick a bluish gray.



  
Date: 01 Jul 2007 16:13:08
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
"Felix" <felixyen@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1183300322.983445.131620@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Robert Harmon (...hotmail.com) wants:
>> I'm also looking for one of the old Gaggia MDF grinders
>> (all metal, not plastic like the current models) that I can
>> have done the same color if anyone has one they'd like
>> to get rid of *v*e*r*y**c*h*e*a*p*l*y*?
>
> Maybe a broken one ...

Broken, as in...?

> I had the same idea a while ago, and discovered two problems.
> Refinishing an old Gaggia machine is easy, partly because the old
> finish is so easy to remove. The grinder's finish is more tenacious,
> and several of mine had a frozen doser screw that prevented me from
> completely disassembling them.

No finish is too tenacious for a glass-bead blasting & commercial stripping
chemicals.

Frozen screw? Isn't that why God made the Easy Out & heli-coil?

> The worst one had a wiring fault: the insulation had flaked off both
> motor leads, and though the new wires and splices were well made (in
> my opinion), I had to instruct its new owner to discard it if that
> fault reappears. Obviously, a newer metal MDF is less likely to have
> this problem than an older one. There was a period when these had 34
> settings instead of 39, shortly before the body became plastic ...

Wiring *is* tricky - I use single strand wire - it holds up better.

> In short :-) caveat emptor.

It's worth doing once, as an exercise; we'll see what comes out of this
exercise.

If I wanted to seriously get into custom machines it would have to be
machines like a Nuova Simonelli Mac or Bunn ES-1A & Mazzer SJ. Then you'd be
starting at $650 - $800 for the machines, ~$100 for a PID kit, ~$100 for
assorted replacement parts, and you'll have ~$1000 invested before you start
disassembling & prepping the machines for finishing. Add $200-$400 for
powder coating anf for ~$1500 you'll have a kick ass espresso making setup.

Or you could go the Gaggia Coffee/MDF route & for ~$400 you'll have a
customized setup that'll bring out the green-eyed monster in most folks! Has
anyone looked into making brass or copper replacent boiler for Gaggia
machines?

It's all cool, man!

--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.




 
Date: 30 Jun 2007 11:51:28
From: Robert Singers
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Robert Harmon said

> Take a look at the colors available: http://tinyurl.com/2yby7k. Right
> now my favorites are, Chevy Orange, Orange Yellow, Bright Red, Dark
> Green & Ford Blue.
>
> What would be your choices?

Of those the Ford Dark Blue. But it would all depend on where it's going
to live, and whether it needs to fit in with an existing colour scheme.

--
rob singers
pull finger to reply
Foemina Erit Ruina Tua


  
Date: 30 Jun 2007 11:58:24
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia

"Robert Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns995F789CAB112rsingers@IP-Hidden...
> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Robert Harmon said
>
>> Take a look at the colors available: http://tinyurl.com/2yby7k. Right
>> now my favorites are, Chevy Orange, Orange Yellow, Bright Red, Dark
>> Green & Ford Blue.
>>
>> What would be your choices?
>
> Of those the Ford Dark Blue. But it would all depend on where it's going
> to live, and whether it needs to fit in with an existing colour scheme.
>


Yeah!, My 1994 Ford F150 Royal Blue!!!
Craig. {:-D





  
Date: 30 Jun 2007 00:52:29
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
If you're a Coffee Geeker you may have seen the thread there about the guy
that put his coffee gear into an armoire. Well the Ol' Ball & Chain did & is
keeping an eye out for an armoire that fits into her design scheme - too
expensive, too big & ugly, & too old & fragile to be of any use. That's
where my stuff will eventually end up.

But the Gaggia Coffee twin boiler mod is an exercise in what can be done &
once it's finished, tested, and documented, I was thinking of raffling it
off. I'm also looking for one of the old Gaggia MDF grinders (all metal, not
plastic like the current models) that I can have done the same color if
anyone has one they'd like to get rid of *v*e*r*y**c*h*e*a*p*l*y*?
--
Robert Harmon
--
http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.

http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
"Robert Singers" <rsingers@finger.hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Xns995F789CAB112rsingers@IP-Hidden...
> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Robert Harmon said
>
>> Take a look at the colors available: http://tinyurl.com/2yby7k. Right
>> now my favorites are, Chevy Orange, Orange Yellow, Bright Red, Dark
>> Green & Ford Blue.
>>
>> What would be your choices?
>
> Of those the Ford Dark Blue. But it would all depend on where it's going
> to live, and whether it needs to fit in with an existing colour scheme.
>
> --
> rob singers
> pull finger to reply
> Foemina Erit Ruina Tua




 
Date: 29 Jun 2007 17:33:59
From: Ken Fox
Subject: Re: Powder coating options for twin boiler Gaggia
If they can do it up like a Mary Kay pink Cadillac, that would be my
suggestion.

ken

"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message
news:GJehi.2207$zA4.2091@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> I'm sending an old-style Gaggia Coffee out for powder coating next week
> (it'll house the twin boiler mod I've been working on).
>
> Take a look at the colors available: http://tinyurl.com/2yby7k. Right now
> my favorites are, Chevy Orange, Orange Yellow, Bright Red, Dark Green &
> Ford Blue.
>
> What would be your choices?
> --
> Robert Harmon
> --
> http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page.
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here.
>