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Date: 30 Jan 2007 05:24:42
From: daveb
Subject: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
"McDonalds, $1.35 was decent and moderately strong. Although it lacked the
subtle top notes needed to make it rise and shine, it had no flaws"

"Starbucks, $1.55 was strong, but burnt and bitter enough to make your eyes
water instead of open."

How pathetic (yet expected) is that??



--
Dave
www.hitechespresso.com
877 286 2833






 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 03:40:01
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:00:38 -0500, in message
12s0jb1e6npv388@corp.supernews.com daveb wrote:

> MORE OT hairsplitting.
>
> "CoffeeKid" <Coffeekid@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1170206444.333769.97640@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 30, 7:55 am, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
>>> On 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49 -0800, "Dan" <daniel_ro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >hmmmmmm.
>>>
>>> >just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!
>>>
>>> Maybe you guys should visit a newstand once in a while -- that's the way
>>> the
>>> entire magazine publishing industry works, with a 60-day advance.
>>
>> Not the entire magazine industry, Larry.
>>
>> Many mags arrive on the newstand within a few days of their month
>> listed. Some on the day listed (as in weekly mags).
>>
>> Imbibe, for eg, published bi-monthly, and it arrives on the newstand
>> no more than one week before it's two month printed date. Newsweek,
>> Time, Business Week, all arrive on around the day before their weekly
>> cycle.
>>
>> k - who visits plenty of newsstands.
>>


 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 18:40:06
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Jan 31, 11:50 am, Dave S <dabcsch...@mts.not > wrote:
>
> To avoid hard pressing, go to:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/
>

That was easy. Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50 while putting together $5-10K
with three or four wide/portrait/zoom AF lenses.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 01:30:45
From: CrackAddict
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007

>
> To avoid hard pressing, go to:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/
>
DPReview very helpful, but nowhere near as comprehensive as a CR round-
up. Many (maybe most) digicams never get a real review on DPR (it is
just a couple of guys, after all, and started as a hobby). Yes, you
can cobble together a reasonable comparison of *published* specs, but
not test results. And DPR is the best of the bunch - the others
(Steve's, etc.) are even less easy to use for research. Compare the
well-designed and informative CR test result tables to almost anything
web based and you will see the web designers have a loooooonnnnng way
to go.




 
Date: 01 Feb 2007 01:25:19
From: CrackAddict
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Jan 31, 2:01 pm, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> IDIOTIC! Really?
>
> tell that to the 4 million suscribers.
>
> . But actually buying based on their recommendations
>
> > is idiotic.

Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups :-)

Yes, IMHO, only an idiot would carefully read the detailed technical
reports CR provides, and then follow the buying recommendations.

Now it could be that I have misread the American public (in fact, that
is probable, based on recent history) but it would seem to me that the
type of person willing to pay for a CR sub and actually *read* it
would likely find contradictions in their conclusions as well. No
doubt those 4 million Folgers-drinking CR subscribers can't actually
read very well (or more likely, just don't read) , so they use it as a
shortcut and probably just dig out the annual buying guide when it's
time for a new microwave. Unto each his own.



 
Date: 31 Jan 2007 17:40:13
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Jan 31, 3:06 pm, Barry Jarrett <b...@rileys-coffee.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:01:56 -0500, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >IDIOTIC! Really?
> >
> >tell that to the 4 million suscribers.
> >
>
> argumentum ad populum.
>
> consider the number of folger's drinkers.

Yes that is another sad statistic -- folger's

What I found instructive, ignoring all taste-testing infamy of CR,
that they found Starbxu inferior to McDonalds, and described EXACTLY
what the SB product tastes like.

Starbucks = a dairy bar, with snacks

(to quote an anonymous contributor here on AC)

dave



 
Date: 31 Jan 2007 15:02:15
From: CoffeeKid
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Jan 31, 12:00 am, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> MORE OT hairsplitting.
>

Gee Dave. I guess Chris' talks with you never quite sink in, huh.

k




 
Date: 31 Jan 2007 01:54:17
From: CrackAddict
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007

>
> My CR epiphany came about ten years ago when they rated beer. I may
> be a bit fuzzy on the specific brands, but it was something like
> Stroh's and Old Milwaukee that came in as number one and two in terms
> of taste.
>
CR is pretty good on testing (except maybe car seats for infants :-)
but then they make the fatal (IMHO) mistake of making conclusions
based on "taste". By definition, taste is personal. It's like they
tested shirts and decided "blue" was best.

I read the mag (family member has a sub) and enjoy it but pretty much
discount their conclusions. As an example, anyone looking for digital
camera would be hard pressed to find as complete a listing of
available features and technical specs (some tested as not published
by manufacturers). But actually buying based on their recommendations
is idiotic.



  
Date: 31 Jan 2007 10:50:17
From: Dave S
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
CrackAddict wrote:
> As an example, anyone looking for digital
> camera would be hard pressed to find as complete a listing of
> available features and technical specs (some tested as not published
> by manufacturers).

To avoid hard pressing, go to:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/

Dave S.


   
Date: 01 Feb 2007 05:57:01
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
Dave S <dabcschell@mts.not > wrote:

>CrackAddict wrote:
>> As an example, anyone looking for digital
>> camera would be hard pressed to find as complete a listing of
>> available features and technical specs (some tested as not published
>> by manufacturers).
>
>To avoid hard pressing, go to:
>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/
>
Or another of my favorites for years is:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/

Randy "" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 31 Jan 2007 09:01:56
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
IDIOTIC! Really?

tell that to the 4 million suscribers.

. But actually buying based on their recommendations
> is idiotic.
>




   
Date: 31 Jan 2007 20:06:16
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:01:56 -0500, "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com >
wrote:

>IDIOTIC! Really?
>
>tell that to the 4 million suscribers.
>

argumentum ad populum.

consider the number of folger's drinkers.



 
Date: 30 Jan 2007 17:20:44
From: CoffeeKid
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On Jan 30, 7:55 am, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49 -0800, "Dan" <daniel_ro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >hmmmmmm.
>
> >just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!
>
> Maybe you guys should visit a newstand once in a while -- that's the way the
> entire magazine publishing industry works, with a 60-day advance.

Not the entire magazine industry, Larry.

Many mags arrive on the newstand within a few days of their month
listed. Some on the day listed (as in weekly mags).

Imbibe, for eg, published bi-monthly, and it arrives on the newstand
no more than one week before it's two month printed date. Newsweek,
Time, Business Week, all arrive on around the day before their weekly
cycle.

k - who visits plenty of newsstands.



  
Date: 31 Jan 2007 03:00:38
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
MORE OT hairsplitting.

"CoffeeKid" <Coffeekid@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170206444.333769.97640@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 30, 7:55 am, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org> wrote:
>> On 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49 -0800, "Dan" <daniel_ro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >hmmmmmm.
>>
>> >just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!
>>
>> Maybe you guys should visit a newstand once in a while -- that's the way
>> the
>> entire magazine publishing industry works, with a 60-day advance.
>
> Not the entire magazine industry, Larry.
>
> Many mags arrive on the newstand within a few days of their month
> listed. Some on the day listed (as in weekly mags).
>
> Imbibe, for eg, published bi-monthly, and it arrives on the newstand
> no more than one week before it's two month printed date. Newsweek,
> Time, Business Week, all arrive on around the day before their weekly
> cycle.
>
> k - who visits plenty of newsstands.
>




 
Date: 30 Jan 2007 09:43:27
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
maybe it was BETTER?

dave




  
Date: 30 Jan 2007 14:03:34
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007

"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170179006.134652.3140@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> maybe it was BETTER?
>
> dave
>
now if you'd only quoted som eothe rparts of the message you replied to such
as <giggle > this:
>How pathetic (yet expected) is that??

ROTFLMAO (btw MAO is a respected supplier of Ethiopian coffee :D )






 
Date: 30 Jan 2007 08:51:17
From: Flasherly
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007

On Jan 30, 10:55 am, pltrgyst <pltrg...@spamlessxhost.org > wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49 -0800, "Dan" <daniel_ro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >hmmmmmm.
>
> >just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!Maybe you guys should visit a newstand once in a while -- that's the way the
> entire magazine publishing industry works, with a 60-day advance.

Oh, yeah - I remember those things. Glossy-like, I believe. Wasn't
the internet supposed to supercede and run them all out of bussiness,
or something? Wish I had a nickel on every dime back I've plugged
into computer hardware from the pages of Ziff Davis and Computer
Shopper; I'd be a rich man. 60-day advance pricing ramps, indeed! A
latecomer across the internet, I didn't figure advantageously into
pricwatch dotcom's heydays until Ziff Davis's editorial staff
contracted for a lucrative sales merger into a coterie comprised
largely of high-ranking DOD officials.



 
Date: 30 Jan 2007 06:03:43
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
I dunno . . It came in the mail -- YESTERDAY.

D



 
Date: 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007


On Jan 30, 10:24 am, "daveb" <davebobbl...@gmail.com > wrote:
> "McDonalds, $1.35 was decent and moderately strong. Although it lacked the
> subtle top notes needed to make it rise and shine, it had no flaws"
>

hmmmmmm.

just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!



  
Date: 30 Jan 2007 10:55:06
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Quotes on coffee from Consumer Reports March 2007
On 30 Jan 2007 05:45:49 -0800, "Dan" <daniel_roach@hotmail.com > wrote:

>hmmmmmm.
>
>just one thing - ch 2007? it isn't even february yet!!

Maybe you guys should visit a newstand once in a while -- that's the way the
entire magazine publishing industry works, with a 60-day advance.

-- Larry