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Date: 14 Sep 2006 09:37:08
From: Jenn
Subject: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
Hi, I've had my Rancilio Rocky for about a month now and since I've had
it, I've had problems with the beans not feeding into the grinding
mechanism. The problem is mostly with the awesome freshly roasted beans
that I've been using (Starbucks beans feed fine) - possibly due to the
oils on the outside of the frehsly roasted beans.

When I am about to make some shots with my Silvia, I'll put just enough
beans for the shots into the hopper of my Rocky. About half way
through grinding the first shot the beans will stop feeding into the
burs. I'll have to stop, take off the lid and manually push the beans
into the openings (created by the safety cover). I sometimes have to do
this more than once per grind when grinding to make 2 shots.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Jenn





 
Date: 18 Sep 2006 16:27:32
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
AG is very busy posting to sites all over -- Poland -- of all places.

Dave
Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> No, it works fine if the bean guard is in place.
>
> I think your installations look fine, even though I went with Jim
> Gallt. Not sure why AG has such heartburn. Pass the Prilosec.
>
> Will
>
> daveb wrote:
> > ONLY if the bean guard is removed.
> >
> >
> > Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> > > daveb wrote:
> > > > seldom works, actually.
> > >
> > > Always works, actually.



 
Date: 18 Sep 2006 12:51:34
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
No, it works fine if the bean guard is in place.

I think your installations look fine, even though I went with Jim
Gallt. Not sure why AG has such heartburn. Pass the Prilosec.

Will

daveb wrote:
> ONLY if the bean guard is removed.
>
>
> Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> > daveb wrote:
> > > seldom works, actually.
> >
> > Always works, actually.



 
Date: 18 Sep 2006 10:04:29
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
ONLY if the bean guard is removed.


Omniryx@gmail.com wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > seldom works, actually.
>
> Always works, actually.



 
Date: 18 Sep 2006 10:03:25
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - pompous posting problem
Ah, just another pompous ass.

Where are the checks you were gonna write to replace all those rockys
for us?

and BTW, there are over 120 people who have bought my installation must
all be wrong.

including those who have bought two of them -- at a time.

???

and re: childish exchanges the key word is "exchange" -- it was
always more than just me, pal.

DAve
877 286 2833

That is a real phone number -- call sometime

AG wrote:
> In article <1158339931.474306.135580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Lets all dump our $250 grinders and buy a $450 one. AG will subsidize
> > those purchases.
> >
>
> Hello Dave or whatever your name may be.
>
> I have long set on the sidelines enjoying your childish exchange with
> Randy and others. I even bothered to look up a picture of your so-called
> "PID" install. If the picture that you posted represents what you
> consider to be a professional installation then your opinions in all
> coffee related matters is indeed very highly esteemed.
>



 
Date: 18 Sep 2006 05:22:09
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems

daveb wrote:
> seldom works, actually.

Always works, actually.



 
Date: 17 Sep 2006 08:15:49
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems



Randy G. wrote:
> With larger beans or oily beans (or large oily beans) this does
> happen. My solution: On the older Rocky there is a heavy, metal frame
> that runs vertically between the rear plastic cover and the doser. I
> place one hand on the frame in the left and give the right-side frame
> a bump or three with the pad of my hand. This always works.
>


seldom works, actually.

Dave
117



 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:30:56
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems

daveb wrote:
> Lets all dump our $250 grinders and buy a $450 one. AG will subsidize
> those purchases.

Right on, Dave! AG, you can mail our checks to.....

(Where do these people come from?)

Will



 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 14:28:38
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems

AG wrote:
> IMO Rocky is an expensive piece of junk. I have tried all the solutions
> suggested above but they did not help. I do not accept that a machine
> that costs as much as Rocky would not function 100% of the time. I have
> had the MM for months now and have not had a single feeding problem.

You should be aware that AG is expressing a fringe minority opinion.
While relatively few people would call it a match for the Mazzer, the
overwhelming consensus is that it is a fine, highly reliable, durable
machine that will do an excellent job with any espresso machine, press,
or dripper.

Will



 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:05:31
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
HOW ABSURD! to compare a grinder to another that cost TWICE as much.

the rock does a great job for a $250.00 grinder. other than the finger
guard nonsense, some fit and finsih issues, and cracked doserless
spouts -- the rock is underpriced,

Lets all dump our $250 grinders and buy a $450 one. AG will subsidize
those purchases.





>
> IMO Rocky is an expensive piece of junk. I have tried all the solutions
> suggested above but they did not help. I do not accept that a machine
> that costs as much as Rocky would not function 100% of the time. I have
> had the MM for months now and have not had a single feeding problem.
>
> AG



  
Date: 18 Sep 2006 09:25:04
From: AG
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
In article <1158339931.474306.135580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:


> Lets all dump our $250 grinders and buy a $450 one. AG will subsidize
> those purchases.
>

Hello Dave or whatever your name may be.

I have long set on the sidelines enjoying your childish exchange with
Randy and others. I even bothered to look up a picture of your so-called
"PID" install. If the picture that you posted represents what you
consider to be a professional installation then your opinions in all
coffee related matters is indeed very highly esteemed.


R.G. was right about this too. Now where is that kill file.

AG


 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:00:45
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems --"DESIGNED-IN "
you are welcome.

I figure in another 3 or 4 years Rancilio will catch on to this
"DESIGNED-IN PROBLEM"!!!
Jenn wrote:
> Thanks everyone for your suggestions! The infernal finger guard is a
> goner! I'll take it off this weekend!!! I don't mind a little bean
> acrobatics if it grinds a better!!
>
> Thanks!!!
>
> Jenn
>
>



 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 07:10:48
From: Jenn
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
Thanks everyone for your suggestions! The infernal finger guard is a
goner! I'll take it off this weekend!!! I don't mind a little bean
acrobatics if it grinds a better!!

Thanks!!!

Jenn

Steve wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2006 10:13:24 -0700, "Omniryx@gmail.com" <Omniryx@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Mine used to get sticky like that if I used oily beans. Usually I
> >could just give it a bump and the beans dropped. Once or twice I had
> >to put my hand in and move them. Eventually I got tired of this and
> >did a little minor surgery with my Dremel to remove the finger guard.
>
> Of course with the finger guard removed the last few beans rocket
> around the container before entering the grinding mechanism, but
> everything is a compromise.



  
Date: 15 Sep 2006 08:59:50
From: AG
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
In article <1158329448.465563.15590@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >, "Jenn"
<jennifer.wickman@gmail.com > wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your suggestions! The infernal finger guard is a
> goner! I'll take it off this weekend!!! I don't mind a little bean
> acrobatics if it grinds a better!!
>


You might want to keep the finger guard and put Rocky on Ebay. This is
what I did and replaced it with MM.

IMO Rocky is an expensive piece of junk. I have tried all the solutions
suggested above but they did not help. I do not accept that a machine
that costs as much as Rocky would not function 100% of the time. I have
had the MM for months now and have not had a single feeding problem.

AG


   
Date: 15 Sep 2006 21:46:36
From: Ian Smith
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:59:50 -0700, AG <dot@dot.dot > wrote:
>
> I do not accept that a machine
> that costs as much as Rocky would not function 100% of the time.

That's a lot of ground coffee. What do you do with it all?

regards, Ian SMith
--


    
Date: 18 Sep 2006 09:25:59
From: AG
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
In article <slrnegm7ps.puk.ian@acheron.smithnet >, Ian Smith
<ian@astounding.org.uk > wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:59:50 -0700, AG <dot@dot.dot> wrote:
> >
> > I do not accept that a machine
> > that costs as much as Rocky would not function 100% of the time.
>
> That's a lot of ground coffee. What do you do with it all?

:))

Good one!


   
Date: 15 Sep 2006 16:13:08
From: Espressopithecus (Java Man)
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
In article <dot-1509060859500001@192.168.1.60 >, dot@dot.dot says...
> IMO Rocky is an expensive piece of junk.
>
. . . which has served many well, and continues to serve many well.
Not as well as several more expensive grinders, but well nonetheless.

Rick


 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 13:53:59
From: daveb
Subject: feeding problems remove the bean guard!
remove or destroy the infernal finger guard -- it is there to protect
not your fingers but coffee beans from being ground up.


Dave
116 silv



  
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 11:30:28
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
shall wrote:

> I think this is unavoidable with oily beans in that machine. The
> solution is.... well, you know.....

...listen for the sound of a handbasket opening...



  
Date: 15 Sep 2006 16:09:24
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
On 14 Sep 2006 11:30:28 -0700, "Alan" <munter@gmail.com > wrote:

>shall wrote:
>
>> I think this is unavoidable with oily beans in that machine. The
>> solution is.... well, you know.....
>
>...listen for the sound of a handbasket opening...

Sorry for being too elliptical. I actually had in mind giving up oily
beans!

shall


 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 18:18:21
From: Marshall
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
On 14 Sep 2006 09:37:08 -0700, "Jenn" <jennifer.wickman@gmail.com >
wrote:

>Hi, I've had my Rancilio Rocky for about a month now and since I've had
>it, I've had problems with the beans not feeding into the grinding
>mechanism. The problem is mostly with the awesome freshly roasted beans
>that I've been using (Starbucks beans feed fine) - possibly due to the
>oils on the outside of the frehsly roasted beans.
>
>When I am about to make some shots with my Silvia, I'll put just enough
>beans for the shots into the hopper of my Rocky. About half way
>through grinding the first shot the beans will stop feeding into the
>burs. I'll have to stop, take off the lid and manually push the beans
>into the openings (created by the safety cover). I sometimes have to do
>this more than once per grind when grinding to make 2 shots.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jenn

I think this is unavoidable with oily beans in that machine. The
solution is.... well, you know.....

shall


 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 10:39:59
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
With larger beans or oily beans (or large oily beans) this does
happen. My solution: On the older Rocky there is a heavy, metal frame
that runs vertically between the rear plastic cover and the doser. I
place one hand on the frame in the left and give the right-side frame
a bump or three with the pad of my hand. This always works.

Silvia doesn't respond to this sort of physical abuse, and neither
does my espresso machine... ;-)


Randy "...but my wife, on the other hand..." G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com





"Jenn" <jennifer.wickman@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Hi, I've had my Rancilio Rocky for about a month now and since I've had
>it, I've had problems with the beans not feeding into the grinding
>mechanism. The problem is mostly with the awesome freshly roasted beans
>that I've been using (Starbucks beans feed fine) - possibly due to the
>oils on the outside of the frehsly roasted beans.
>
>When I am about to make some shots with my Silvia, I'll put just enough
>beans for the shots into the hopper of my Rocky. About half way
>through grinding the first shot the beans will stop feeding into the
>burs. I'll have to stop, take off the lid and manually push the beans
>into the openings (created by the safety cover). I sometimes have to do
>this more than once per grind when grinding to make 2 shots.
>
>Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jenn


 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 10:13:24
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
Mine used to get sticky like that if I used oily beans. Usually I
could just give it a bump and the beans dropped. Once or twice I had
to put my hand in and move them. Eventually I got tired of this and
did a little minor surgery with my Dremel to remove the finger guard.

Will


Jenn wrote:
> Hi, I've had my Rancilio Rocky for about a month now and since I've had
> it, I've had problems with the beans not feeding into the grinding
> mechanism. The problem is mostly with the awesome freshly roasted beans
> that I've been using (Starbucks beans feed fine) - possibly due to the
> oils on the outside of the frehsly roasted beans.
>
> When I am about to make some shots with my Silvia, I'll put just enough
> beans for the shots into the hopper of my Rocky. About half way
> through grinding the first shot the beans will stop feeding into the
> burs. I'll have to stop, take off the lid and manually push the beans
> into the openings (created by the safety cover). I sometimes have to do
> this more than once per grind when grinding to make 2 shots.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jenn



  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 21:19:58
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems
On 14 Sep 2006 10:13:24 -0700, "Omniryx@gmail.com" <Omniryx@gmail.com >
wrote:

>Mine used to get sticky like that if I used oily beans. Usually I
>could just give it a bump and the beans dropped. Once or twice I had
>to put my hand in and move them. Eventually I got tired of this and
>did a little minor surgery with my Dremel to remove the finger guard.

Of course with the finger guard removed the last few beans rocket
around the container before entering the grinding mechanism, but
everything is a compromise.


  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 10:45:56
From: GeeDubb
Subject: Re: Rancilio Rocky - feeding problems

<Omniryx@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1158254004.465353.124070@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Mine used to get sticky like that if I used oily beans. Usually I
> could just give it a bump and the beans dropped. Once or twice I had
> to put my hand in and move them. Eventually I got tired of this and
> did a little minor surgery with my Dremel to remove the finger guard.
>
> Will

I removed the finger guard and still occasionally have to bump the side with
oily beans but it did help..
Gary

>
>
> Jenn wrote:
>> Hi, I've had my Rancilio Rocky for about a month now and since I've had
>> it, I've had problems with the beans not feeding into the grinding
>> mechanism. The problem is mostly with the awesome freshly roasted beans
>> that I've been using (Starbucks beans feed fine) - possibly due to the
>> oils on the outside of the frehsly roasted beans.
>>
>> When I am about to make some shots with my Silvia, I'll put just enough
>> beans for the shots into the hopper of my Rocky. About half way
>> through grinding the first shot the beans will stop feeding into the
>> burs. I'll have to stop, take off the lid and manually push the beans
>> into the openings (created by the safety cover). I sometimes have to do
>> this more than once per grind when grinding to make 2 shots.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jenn
>