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Date: 03 Dec 2006 20:58:20
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Subject: Rancilio Silvia w/no grinder vs La Pavoni Napolitana
I live in a small kitchen so counter space is very limited. I
understand that the Silvia is probably the best sub $1000 machine but
if I were to purchase it I would not have room for a grinder. I live
in NYC so I have a couple great coffee shops that grind fresh close by
but I realize this is a poor substitute for a home grinder.

An alternative is the La Pavoni Napolitana, it is an inferior machine
but has a built in grinder. Would the La Pavoni brewing with fresh
ground coffee be produce better results than the Silvia with nice
coffee ground at a store less than 3 days prior?

I am a bit concerned with the La Pavoni Napolitana since there seems to
be little info on it available and I am always wary of "combination"
style items (never as good as separate components).

Any thoughts? Thanks.





 
Date: 05 Dec 2006 20:49:03
From: Neal Reid
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia w/no grinder vs La Pavoni Napolitana
In article
<1165208300.733329.84310@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com >,
littlra@yahoo.com wrote:

> I live in a small kitchen so counter space is very limited. I
> understand that the Silvia is probably the best sub $1000 machine
>
> An alternative is the La Pavoni Napolitana, it is an inferior machine
> but has a built in grinder.

SO if a built in grinder solves your space problem and you like
the Silvia, look at the Nancy - which is a Silvia with a built in
grinder.

S'not all that much smaller than a pair - if you can be satisfied
with a small grinder

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M for N in address to mail reply


 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 11:52:54
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia w/no grinder vs La Pavoni Napolitana
My solution was to move the coffee out of the kitchen. I built a small
16"x32" Formica-topped cabinet [two drawers, two shelves below] for all the
coffee apparatus and put it in a corner beside the table in the dining area.
It holds Silvia, an MDF grinder, a Krups Pro Aroma drip machine, a whirly
grinder [for flavored coffees], and two coffee canisters. There is room on
the shelves for another drip machine [for decaf], a vacuum pot, a french
press, an ibrek, more canisters, flavorings, cups, etc. The drawers hold
the tamper, measuring spoons, thermometer, brushes and cleaning supplies.
It has a built-in power strip, which plugs into a GFI circuit. No more
trips to the kitchen for refills. I don't even have to get up to serve
guests.

<littlra@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165208300.733329.84310@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>I live in a small kitchen so counter space is very limited. I
> understand that the Silvia is probably the best sub $1000 machine but
> if I were to purchase it I would not have room for a grinder.




 
Date: 04 Dec 2006 06:21:10
From:
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia w/no grinder vs La Pavoni Napolitana
On 3 Dec 2006 20:58:20 -0800, littlra@yahoo.com wrote:

>I live in a small kitchen so counter space is very limited. I
>understand that the Silvia is probably the best sub $1000 machine but
>if I were to purchase it I would not have room for a grinder. I live
>in NYC so I have a couple great coffee shops that grind fresh close by
>but I realize this is a poor substitute for a home grinder.
>
>An alternative is the La Pavoni Napolitana, it is an inferior machine
>but has a built in grinder. Would the La Pavoni brewing with fresh
>ground coffee be produce better results than the Silvia with nice
>coffee ground at a store less than 3 days prior?
>
>I am a bit concerned with the La Pavoni Napolitana since there seems to
>be little info on it available and I am always wary of "combination"
>style items (never as good as separate components).
>
>Any thoughts? Thanks.

It's a dog. No bones about it.

My first venture into espresso was the LaPav Club Combo, which this
beast has replaced. I used it for several years but never was able to
get decent coffee from it. As I recall, it wasn't small (maybe the
Napolitana is more compact), hardly smaller footprint than Sylvia and
Rocky together. The LaPav conical grinder is junk, simply not adequate
for good espresso.

That said, you will probably get better coffee from the LaPav grinding
fresh, than from anything using preground coffee. if your standards
are modest, it could be adequate. Just don't expect top quality
espresso.

If it were me, I'd find another few inches of counter space.

Another thing to keep in mind is that espresso making is messy. In a
small kitchen with really restricted space (something I know all too
well, alas), this can be a constant annoyance. Might want to ask
yourself how much you really want an espresso machine.






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Date: 03 Dec 2006 23:48:53
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia w/no grinder vs La Pavoni Napolitana
On 2006-12-04, littlra@yahoo.com <littlra@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Any thoughts? Thanks.

Call Thomas Cara Bros. in San Francisco, CA. They are La Pavoni
distributors, but will tell you true on the product. Despite being
retailers for LP, they got no time selling LP products they may have to do
warranty work on and make no bones about it. If it's a dog, they'll
say so.

(415) 781-0383

nb