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Date: 10 Nov 2006 14:41:04
From: Ton
Subject: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
For more than a year I have a Rancilio Silvia and a Mazzer Mini grinder
and particularly since I installed a Fuji PID controller, my espresso is
almost perfect.
However there is one thing that is bothering me a little. Mostly I make
2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times one cup fills
quicker than the other.
I have already leveled the machine by means of coins under one side but
that does not help. I tamp as evenly as possible.
The shop where I bought it suggested (by telephone) that maybe the
machine has to be cleaned or that my coffee is ground too fine, but
since I have cleaned regularly and the total time for filling a double
shot is almost ideal, that isn't the cause probably.
Has anyone here suggestions what to do or what to look for ?
TIA.
Ton




 
Date: 11 Nov 2006 14:16:04
From: Ton
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
Mosty likelely it IS the machine not being level. I had already 1 coin
under the top left and bottom left corners (the left cup filled quicker)
and with a spirit level on top of my Silvia it looked as if it was
level. However when I checked it with the spirit level UNDER the head
(the part where the PF is clicked in), it was still not level.
Apparently the head itself is not aligned correctly. I put 2 more coins
under the machine and now both cups fill at approximately the same rate.


 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 21:52:48
From: Ton
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
Thanks for the response and suggestions.
Tomorrow I will look at it.
@RandyG: How do you get the spouts unscrewed ? At first sight it looks
impossible to get them off.


  
Date: 10 Nov 2006 16:34:22
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
Ton <thisisafakeforspam@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Thanks for the response and suggestions.
>Tomorrow I will look at it.
>@RandyG: How do you get the spouts unscrewed ? At first sight it looks
>impossible to get them off.

If it is a Rancilio portafilter, the entire spout assembly unscrews
off the bottom of the PF. E-Mail me if need be and I will send you a
pic of them removed so you can see. if they are stuck, wrap a towel
around them, put the spouts on a vice, and unscrew the body from the
spouts (righty-tighty, lefty-loosey). Worst case- it breaks and you
get to buy a new commercial portafilter! ;-)
The other solution is to go ahead and get another pF and remove the
entire bottom of that one and use it bottomless to check on the
evenness of the pour from the basket. If nothing else, it's fun to
watch!

Randy "coffee voyeur" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




   
Date: 10 Nov 2006 19:39:45
From: Craig Andrews
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:ld6al21ia2ecc5gl5gdeqe3uo3tmj5i2m3@4ax.com...
> Ton <thisisafakeforspam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the response and suggestions.
>>Tomorrow I will look at it.
>>@RandyG: How do you get the spouts unscrewed ? At first sight it looks
>>impossible to get them off.
>
> If it is a Rancilio portafilter, the entire spout assembly unscrews
> off the bottom of the PF.


LOL, yeah, I'd say! if it screws on., I guess the reverse applies!?!
Jesus..
Craig.


E-Mail me if need be and I will send you a
> pic of them removed so you can see. if they are stuck, wrap a towel
> around them, put the spouts on a vice, and unscrew the body from the
> spouts (righty-tighty, lefty-loosey). Worst case- it breaks and you
> get to buy a new commercial portafilter! ;-)
> The other solution is to go ahead and get another pF and remove the
> entire bottom of that one and use it bottomless to check on the
> evenness of the pour from the basket. If nothing else, it's fun to
> watch!
>
> Randy "coffee voyeur" G.
> http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com
>
>



 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 18:50:33
From: Bertie Doe
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly

"Ton" wrote in message

> Mostly I make 2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times
> one cup fills quicker than the other.

There's an easy way to eliminate whether the problem is distribution. Keep
the same grind setting, put approx half the grinds in the basket, level, tap
the p/f down gently on the counter, LIGHT tamp, repeat with remainder of
grinds and finish with a light tamp (don't polish).
If you are still getting a left or right spout bias, then as Randy suggests,
it may need some DIY skills. Hope this helps.

Bertie




 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 17:44:42
From: RoughJaw
Subject: Re: Silvia spouts
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:42:10 -0800, daveb once again proved he's an idiot:

> Plug one hole and use the other.
> easy.
> Dave

DId you actually read the OP???

> Ton wrote:
>> Mostly I make
>> 2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times one cup fills
>> quicker than the other.

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Date: 10 Nov 2006 09:42:10
From: daveb
Subject: Silvia spouts
Plug one hole and use the other.
easy.
Dave
Ton wrote:
> For more than a year I have a Rancilio Silvia and a Mazzer Mini grinder
> and particularly since I installed a Fuji PID controller, my espresso is
> almost perfect.
> However there is one thing that is bothering me a little. Mostly I make
> 2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times one cup fills
> quicker than the other.
> I have already leveled the machine by means of coins under one side but
> that does not help. I tamp as evenly as possible.
> The shop where I bought it suggested (by telephone) that maybe the
> machine has to be cleaned or that my coffee is ground too fine, but
> since I have cleaned regularly and the total time for filling a double
> shot is almost ideal, that isn't the cause probably.
> Has anyone here suggestions what to do or what to look for ?
> TIA.
> Ton



  
Date: 10 Nov 2006 12:06:42
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Silvia spouts
In article <1163180530.264470.194890@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote:

> Plug one hole and use the other.
> easy.
> Dave
> Ton wrote:
> > For more than a year I have a Rancilio Silvia and a Mazzer Mini grinder
> > and particularly since I installed a Fuji PID controller, my espresso is
> > almost perfect.
> > However there is one thing that is bothering me a little. Mostly I make
> > 2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times one cup fills
> > quicker than the other.
> > I have already leveled the machine by means of coins under one side but
> > that does not help. I tamp as evenly as possible.
> > The shop where I bought it suggested (by telephone) that maybe the
> > machine has to be cleaned or that my coffee is ground too fine, but
> > since I have cleaned regularly and the total time for filling a double
> > shot is almost ideal, that isn't the cause probably.
> > Has anyone here suggestions what to do or what to look for ?
> > TIA.
> > Ton

Why not just remove the spouts if you only pour into one container?


 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 08:30:34
From: phreaddy
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
I have the same problem! Since the espresso comes out the same, one,
hole in the PF, and only THEN gets diverted along the two paths of the
spouts, I doubt very much it could be an uneven-extraction problem --
especially since it's always my left cup that is slightly fuller than
the right. It's such a small difference (at least in my case) that I
don't worry about it. You could try making the machine unlevel to
counteract it.



 
Date: 10 Nov 2006 08:21:31
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Rancilio Sylvia not pouring evenly
Use a level and verify that the machine is indeed level. If it is, and
if the problem has existed since you received it, the problem is most
likely with the spouts. Remove the spouts (they unscrew) and pull a
double to see if the espresso is coming forth fairly evenly. If it is
then the area where the espresso hits the trough in the spout probably
need a bit of smoothing. Use a small, round file to smooth out that
area. If the coffee does not come out of the spoutless portafilter
evenly, the exit hole and exit channel from the PF body itself may
need the same treatment all the way up into the body. A long shot is
that the portafilter is malformed and needs to be replaced- this is
only a reasonable possibility if it has been happening since the
machine was new.


Randy "Maybe change the name to Ilean...?" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com



Ton <thisisafakeforspam@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>For more than a year I have a Rancilio Silvia and a Mazzer Mini grinder
>and particularly since I installed a Fuji PID controller, my espresso is
>almost perfect.
>However there is one thing that is bothering me a little. Mostly I make
>2 cups of espresso at the same time and 9 out of 10 times one cup fills
>quicker than the other.
>I have already leveled the machine by means of coins under one side but
>that does not help. I tamp as evenly as possible.
>The shop where I bought it suggested (by telephone) that maybe the
>machine has to be cleaned or that my coffee is ground too fine, but
>since I have cleaned regularly and the total time for filling a double
>shot is almost ideal, that isn't the cause probably.
>Has anyone here suggestions what to do or what to look for ?
>TIA.
>Ton