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Date: 02 Nov 2006 23:50:20
From: Made A Line, Page?
Subject: Rescind the BOP
Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
BOP?







 
Date: 06 Nov 2006 08:03:06
From:
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

Lee Ayrton wrote:
[beautiful description of the judging snipped...]

Maddy's gone, bless her, but her spirit is alive and well in AFU.

John "I miss her too" Stevens



 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 13:17:08
From: Lee Ayrton
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Made A Line, Page? wrote:
> Message-ID: <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>

That's an uncommon way to troll AFU and alt.coffee, but you are hardly the
first.


> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> BOP?

Translation: Say, the drinking water reservoir is getting low, let's pump
raw sewage into it to top it off.

And here come the judge's scores... Ah, 6.5 for brevity, that's
respectable: The usual form is to get in, do the damage and get out. 8.3
for knowledge of the groups, a respectable score for trolling two groups
that Maddy frequented. 5.4 in the bait selection category, the judges
obviously felt that the bait was too bland there. 3.7 for gram, the
troll bobbled a bit at the top of the routine. A very disappointing 2.0
for originality, that's going to hurt his chances at making the troll
finals. Oh, an a 10.0 for taste. Since the troll "taste" scores are
inverted, this will count very heavily against him indeed.



Lee "Awaiting the suicidal sock puppet onslaught" Ayrton


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 18:35:13
From: Mike Muth
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

Don Freeman wrote:
> "Mike Muth" <mike.muth@unverbesserlich.org> wrote in message
> news:Xns9870A0397E650mikemuthunverbesserl@129.250.170.82...

> > Well, the BOMP was
> > probably because of the joke cascades, followed by the posts berating
> > people for watching that stupid show and repeated the senseless wit -
> > which started a flame war.

> The above sounds like a violation of the BOR. "Stupid show" indeed.

Misunderstanding alert. I don't think MPFC was stupid. I like most of
the episodes, although some of the humor fell flat. There are,
however, people who think it was a stupid show.

Hey, I watched "Kung Pow" last night. Compared to that, MPFC was
rocket science. (I enjoyed KP, too. Stupid is good if you do it
right)

BTW, anyone else notice that "Hogfather" is coming to TV as a series?

Mike



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 12:36:45
From: Hatunen
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On 3 Nov 2006 18:35:13 -0800, "Mike Muth"
<mike.muth@unverbesserlich.org > wrote:

>
>Don Freeman wrote:
>> "Mike Muth" <mike.muth@unverbesserlich.org> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9870A0397E650mikemuthunverbesserl@129.250.170.82...
>
>> > Well, the BOMP was
>> > probably because of the joke cascades, followed by the posts berating
>> > people for watching that stupid show and repeated the senseless wit -
>> > which started a flame war.
>
>> The above sounds like a violation of the BOR. "Stupid show" indeed.
>
>Misunderstanding alert. I don't think MPFC was stupid. I like most of
>the episodes, although some of the humor fell flat. There are,
>however, people who think it was a stupid show.

I have, from time to time, had to point out to my wife that she
does not have a very well developed sense of the silly.


************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *


 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:46:11
From: Lon
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Made A Line, Page? proclaimed:
> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> BOP?

I prefer slow to mindless nattering, devoid of fact or even good rumor.


  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 04:20:41
From: TeaLady (Mari C.)
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net > wrote in
news:7f6dnX-8N5xIf9bYnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@comcast.com:

> Made A Line, Page? proclaimed:
>> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of
>> 2006) rescinding BOP?
>
> I prefer slow to mindless nattering, devoid of fact or even
> good rumor.
>

Good rumor is hard to find these days - mediocre and poor rumor
are even starting to slip. Mudslinging and partial truisms are
still about, and general sniping and baiting abound, although,
thankfully, not so much here in afu.

I miss Maddy, and I hardly knew her, just a bit via afu, she was
a real lady and a class act. I wish she were still here, I
could learn a lot from her.

--
Tea"Quality is preferable to quantity, mostly"Lady (i)

"The principle of Race is meant to embody and express the utter
negation of human freedom, the denial of equal rights, a
challenge in the face of mankind." A. Kolnai


   
Date: 05 Nov 2006 15:04:40
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On 4 Nov 2006 04:20:41 GMT, "TeaLady (i C.)"
<spressobean@yahoo.com > wrote:

>I miss Maddy, and I hardly knew her, just a bit via afu, she was
>a real lady and a class act. I wish she were still here, I
>could learn a lot from her.

the missus was being stern with maddie-the-younger a couple of weeks
ago, and let out with: "MADELEINE PAGE! You get over here and....
Ooops. Oh my."


--barry " "


 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 19:12:06
From: AlanM
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Made A Line, Page? wrote:
> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> BOP?
>
greek coffee wrote:
> Any idea where to find an old fashioned stainless steel stove top
> percolate? I don't want electric, or aluminum. Thanks.
>

I moved to South Florida a bit over a year ago. Having some advance info
about electricity outages I came equipped with a propane two burner camp
stove, a 40 pound propane tank, and a stainless steel stove top
percolator. I made friends very quickly during and after Hurricane
Wilma. My percolator came from Amazon.com Try the following link

http://www.fantes.com/percolators.htm


  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 14:30:08
From: TOliver
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

"AlanM" <michael1943@comcast.net > wrote ...
> Made A Line, Page? wrote:
>> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006)
>> rescinding
>> BOP?
>>
> greek coffee wrote:
> > Any idea where to find an old fashioned stainless steel stove top
> > percolate? I don't want electric, or aluminum. Thanks.
> >
>
> I moved to South Florida a bit over a year ago. Having some advance info
> about electricity outages I came equipped with a propane two burner camp
> stove, a 40 pound propane tank, and a stainless steel stove top
> percolator. I made friends very quickly during and after Hurricane Wilma.
> My percolator came from Amazon.com Try the following link
>
Walt's closer, and often has the speckledy blue enamel sort too, the
choice of real ruralians.

TM "Focus is in the lens of the camera, far from afu/" Oliver




 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 09:49:18
From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
> "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>
>> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>> BOP?
>
>Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>interested in following this one.

BOP?

Balance of payments?
Board of Pharmacy?
Brothers of Peace?
Bureau of Prisons?
Ban on Posting?

Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
APU-specific abbreviations?

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure


  
Date: 05 Nov 2006 00:03:50
From: Greg Goss
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk > wrote:

>Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>>In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
>> "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>>> BOP?
>>
>>Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>>denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>>interested in following this one.
>
>BOP?
>
>Balance of payments?
>Board of Pharmacy?
>Brothers of Peace?
>Bureau of Prisons?
>Ban on Posting?
>
>Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
>APU-specific abbreviations?

Ban on Python (Monty).
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27


  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 11:36:18
From: Lars Eighner
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In our last episode,
<GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk >,
the lovely and talented Mike Williams
broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:

> Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>>In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
>> "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>>> BOP?
>>
>>Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>>denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>>interested in following this one.

> BOP?

> Balance of payments?
> Board of Pharmacy?
> Brothers of Peace?
> Bureau of Prisons?
> Ban on Posting?

> Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
> APU-specific abbreviations?


Well, see, this is a result of exceptions to the BOA.

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/ > <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
I got bulk mail from Jesus. It was addressed to "RESIDENT."


  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 10:25:34
From: bill van
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In article <GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk >,
Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk > wrote:

> Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
> >In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
> > "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> >> BOP?
> >
> >Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
> >denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
> >interested in following this one.
>
> BOP?
>
> Balance of payments?
> Board of Pharmacy?
> Brothers of Peace?
> Bureau of Prisons?
> Ban on Posting?
>
> Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
> APU-specific abbreviations?

Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.

I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
conversation focused.

Inasmuch as afca maintains no such restrictions but there is a
considerable overlap in membership between the two groups, and given
that afcans have shown some interest in whether AFU will survive given
the recent slow-down in traffic, I thought afcans might want to follow
this AFU debate, if indeed the OP generates some discussion.

bill


   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:49:33
From: Lon
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
bill van proclaimed:

> In article <GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk>,
> Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>>
>>>In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
>>>"Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>>>>BOP?
>>>
>>>Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>>>denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>>>interested in following this one.
>>
>>BOP?
>>
>>Balance of payments?
>>Board of Pharmacy?
>>Brothers of Peace?
>>Bureau of Prisons?
>>Ban on Posting?
>>
>>Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
>>APU-specific abbreviations?
>
>
> Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.

Occasional character on The Simpsons.
>
> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
> other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
> and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
> conversation focused.

No, it just tends to discourage the drooling idiots from sticking around
very long.
>
> Inasmuch as afca maintains no such restrictions but there is a
> considerable overlap in membership between the two groups, and given
> that afcans have shown some interest in whether AFU will survive given
> the recent slow-down in traffic, I thought afcans might want to follow
> this AFU debate, if indeed the OP generates some discussion.

It won't be much of a useful discussion.
And it isn't a debate.


    
Date: 04 Nov 2006 02:11:34
From: Bob Ward
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:49:33 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net >
wrote:

>> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
>> other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
>> and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
>> conversation focused.
>
>No, it just tends to discourage the drooling idiots from sticking around
>very long.
>>


Apparently it led to inbreeding, instead.



     
Date: 05 Nov 2006 22:45:20
From: Frank
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

"Bob Ward" <bobward@email.com > wrote in message
news:3mtnk2pkd6pcejqi14i59sgla5fas891vh@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:49:33 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
>>> other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
>>> and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
>>> conversation focused.
>>
>>No, it just tends to discourage the drooling idiots from sticking around
>>very long.
>>>
>
>
> Apparently it led to inbreeding, instead.
>

And wonderings of why traffic is so light...




      
Date: 06 Nov 2006 14:13:23
From: JoAnne Schmitz
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 22:45:20 -0500, "Frank" <junk.catcher.mail@gmail.com >
wrote:

>
>"Bob Ward" <bobward@email.com> wrote in message
>news:3mtnk2pkd6pcejqi14i59sgla5fas891vh@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:49:33 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
>>>> other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
>>>> and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
>>>> conversation focused.
>>>
>>>No, it just tends to discourage the drooling idiots from sticking around
>>>very long.
>>
>> Apparently it led to inbreeding, instead.
>
>And wonderings of why traffic is so light...

I don't know about the other groups, but I don't think there's been a lot
of soul-searching on AFU about why traffic is so light.

You seem to be offering a solution to a problem that the members of AFU
didn't ask for advice on.

JoAnne "followups etc" Schmitz

--

The new Urban Legends website is <http://www.tafkac.org >
That's TAFKAC.ORG
Do not accept lame imitations at previously okay URLs


   
Date: 04 Nov 2006 11:46:32
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

"bill van" <billvan@separatethis.canada.com > wrote in message
news:billvan-5B5383.02253403112006@news.telus.net...
> In article <GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk>,
> Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>> >In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
>> > "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006)
>> >> rescinding
>> >> BOP?
>> >
>> >Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>> >denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>> >interested in following this one.
>>
>> BOP?
>>
>> Balance of payments?
>> Board of Pharmacy?
>> Brothers of Peace?
>> Bureau of Prisons?
>> Ban on Posting?
>>
>> Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
>> APU-specific abbreviations?
>
> Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.
>

He runs the Quickie-t.




    
Date: 06 Nov 2006 21:59:09
From: Simon Slavin
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On 04/11/2006, Natalie Drest wrote in message
<454be26a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au >:

> "bill van" <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote
>
> > Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar
> >> with APU-specific abbreviations?
> >
> > Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.
> >
>
> He runs the Quickie-t.

Who needs the Quickie-t ?

Simon.
--
http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk


    
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:52:31
From: Don Freeman
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

"Natalie Drest" <fugeddaboudit@notarealemailaddress.net > wrote in message
news:454be26a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "bill van" <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.
>>
>
> He runs the Quickie-t.
>
Excellent.




   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 18:47:18
From: Neal Eckhardt
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:25:34 GMT, bill van
<billvan@separatethis.canada.com > wrote:

>In article <GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk>,
> Mike Williams <nospam@econym.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
>> >In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
>> > "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>> >> BOP?
>> >
>> >Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
>> >denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
>> >interested in following this one.
>>
>> BOP?
>>
>> Balance of payments?
>> Board of Pharmacy?
>> Brothers of Peace?
>> Bureau of Prisons?
>> Ban on Posting?
>>
>> Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
>> APU-specific abbreviations?
>
>Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.
>
>I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
>other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
>and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
>conversation focused.

Focused???? That's funny.
Neal


    
Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:45:02
From: Mike Muth
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
neckhardt@penntraffic.nospam.com (Neal Eckhardt) wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:25:34 GMT, bill van
> <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote:

>>I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time
>>there other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban
>>on Politics and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I
>>gather, to keep the conversation focused.

> Focused???? That's funny.

I always thought it was to keep the number of flame wars down.

I think the BOMP and BOR had similar reasons. Well, the BOMP was
probably because of the joke cascades, followed by the posts berating
people for watching that stupid show and repeated the senseless wit -
which started a flame war.

Threads in AFU don't stay much more focused than do those in AFCA.

--
Mike
Drop my surname to e-mail me


     
Date: 03 Nov 2006 14:24:27
From: Don Freeman
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

"Mike Muth" <mike.muth@unverbesserlich.org > wrote in message
news:Xns9870A0397E650mikemuthunverbesserl@129.250.170.82...
>
> Well, the BOMP was
> probably because of the joke cascades, followed by the posts berating
> people for watching that stupid show and repeated the senseless wit -
> which started a flame war.
>

The above sounds like a violation of the BOR. "Stupid show" indeed.

--
-Don
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)




   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 14:54:37
From:
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In alt.folklore.urban bill van <billvan@separatethis.canada.com > wrote:
> In article <GWaC6XAeCxSFFwv9@econym.demon.co.uk>,
> > Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
> > APU-specific abbreviations?

> Well, sure, assuming you mean AFU. I'm not familiar with APU.

The APU is the auxillary power unit, of course, but we don't want
to talk about that.

Bill "it would violate the state secrets act" Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.


 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 09:31:50
From: bill van
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org >,
"Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com > wrote:

> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> BOP?

Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
interested in following this one.

bill, no idea why alt.coffee


  
Date: 06 Nov 2006 18:38:35
From: Lee Ayrton
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

Crossposting noted.

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, raven@westnet.poe.com wrote:
>> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
>>> Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.
>
> Huh, Nicey-nice has migrated to AFU? And it's become a barrel instead of
> a month. Odd.

Furrfu^2.

See:<URL:http://www.pollarchive.com/jokes-13-cat-15-1.html >
Punchline: "Wednesdays is YOUR turn inside the barrel!"

In AFU "Nicey-nice month" would be the one after September.



Lee "Perfectly good jokes explicated while-U-wait" Ayrton



--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



   
Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:57:18
From: Leo G Simonetta
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:38:35 -0500, Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com >
wrote:

>
> Crossposting noted.
>
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, raven@westnet.poe.com wrote:
> >> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
> >>> Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.
> >
> > Huh, Nicey-nice has migrated to AFU? And it's become a barrel instead of
> > a month. Odd.
>
> Furrfu^2.
>
> See:<URL:http://www.pollarchive.com/jokes-13-cat-15-1.html>
> Punchline: "Wednesdays is YOUR turn inside the barrel!"

The reference to which has been a common cultural moray in AFU
since my long ago arrival there, more than 10 years ago now.

> In AFU "Nicey-nice month" would be the one after September.

A quick google shows that nicey-nice started as a mere week back
in the mid nineties but the lax standards and the generally
welcoming nature of afu expanded it to a full month beween 1996
and 1999

Leo "Will research for fun" Simonetta
--
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the
black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H. L. Mencken


  
Date: 06 Nov 2006 15:01:09
From: Dr H
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Mike Muth expostulated:

}Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com > wrote:
}
}
} > Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
} > Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.
}
} > On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Mike Muth wrote:
}
}<snip good information >
}
}I stand corrected. Thank you.
}
} >> Threads in AFU don't stay much more focused than do those in
} >> AFCA.
}
} > Threads, focused? No, but then neither do conversations in real
} > life. But there is a social contract in each group that sets
} > boundaries and promotes certain behaviours. As always, those that
} > object to the "herd" are welcome to follow the time-honored
} > tradition of electronic conversation fora and start their own
} > group with their own rules.
}
}Of course, I do not object to a lack of focus. Some of the most
}interesting discussions occur when threads wander. Besides, forcing
}folks to remain focused would tend to inhibit free disucssion of the
}topic at hand.
}
}I've always enjoyed reading, and sometimes posting to, AFU. I see no
}need to change the group. A bit more traffic would be nice, *but*
}not if the cost is a change in the culture of AFU. People have died
}or just wandered away and the culture has drifted a bit, but that's
}normal for any cultural group.

True, but cultures change over time, too. Or, sometimes, they die out.

Dr H


  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 12:50:05
From: Lee Ayrton
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, bill van wrote:

> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
> other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
> and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
> conversation focused.
>
> Inasmuch as afca maintains no such restrictions but there is a
> considerable overlap in membership between the two groups, and given
> that afcans have shown some interest in whether AFU will survive given
> the recent slow-down in traffic, I thought afcans might want to follow
> this AFU debate, if indeed the OP generates some discussion.

Debate? Has there been debate?





--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



   
Date: 04 Nov 2006 20:58:47
From: bill van
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0611041249140.13455@panix2.panix.com >,
Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com > wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, bill van wrote:
>
> > I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time there
> > other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban on Politics
> > and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I gather, to keep the
> > conversation focused.
> >
> > Inasmuch as afca maintains no such restrictions but there is a
> > considerable overlap in membership between the two groups, and given
> > that afcans have shown some interest in whether AFU will survive given
> > the recent slow-down in traffic, I thought afcans might want to follow
> > this AFU debate, if indeed the OP generates some discussion.
>
> Debate? Has there been debate?
>
False alarm. Go back to sleep.


  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 12:46:53
From: Lee Ayrton
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.


On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Mike Muth wrote:
> neckhardt@penntraffic.nospam.com (Neal Eckhardt) wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 10:25:34 GMT, bill van
>> <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't know the whole history of AFU and haven't spent much time
>>> there other than a few periods of lurking, but it maintains a Ban
>>> on Politics and a Ban on Religion (BoP and BoR) in an attempt, I
>>> gather, to keep the conversation focused.
>
>> Focused???? That's funny.
>
> I always thought it was to keep the number of flame wars down.
>
> I think the BOMP and BOR had similar reasons.

Um, no. You'd be mistaken in that. The BoR, and the closely related BoP,
are intended to insulate AFU from shrill, long winded, onanistic, spittle
-flecked and ultimately futile debates suspended by force of will in
unprovable belief and unencumbered by documentable fact. There are places
-- perhaps far too many of them -- in Usenet for that kind of thing, but
we don't do it in AFU.

Simon's irregularly posted, but easily found, AFU Style Guide has a very
informative paragraph on the subject, one that has obviously gone unread
by far too many eyes for far too long:

[quote]----------------------------------------------------------
Certain types of post are banned from AFU. The test is this: do
arguments about the subject often cause people to change their
minds ? If not, then don't post argument on that topic to AFU.
This covers a lot of ground including, but not limited to,
religion, politics, abortion and gun-control. Feel free to post
ULs about these subjects to AFU (complete with source and
analysis, of course) but please don't argue the validity of the
points of view involved or assert that one side is right or
wrong. Since argument about religion and politics rarely convinces
people to convert from one religion to another or from one
political view to another, this constitutes a ban on attacking
or supporting the tenets of any religion or political theory on
AFU.
[unquote]--------------------------------------------------------

By way of example, one's position that the universe was created in a
medium oven by a cosmic muffin, dammit, and that the other is wrong, wrong
wrongity-wrong in their sad belief in a hairy thunderer, each backed by
extensive, selective, quotes from either the Good Cookbook or the Sacred
Weather Scrolls will win no converts to either side. More to the point,
the argument lacks UL content and hence /doesn't fuckin' belong in AFU/.


> Well, the BOMP was probably because of the joke cascades, followed by
> the posts berating people for watching that stupid show and repeated the
> senseless wit - which started a flame war.

Furrfu. From the same source:

[quote]-----------------------------------------------------------
We've all seen the Python stuff too often. Not only don't we
need to see it retold, but

"Most people here can see a joke at 10 postings. No need
to remind them what humor is."
-- George Cayro

If, in a thread about weights or coconuts you see a reference
to a Swallow, that's enough to let us get the joke: we don't
need it expanded.
[unquote]---------------------------------------------------------

It wasn't about "the stupid show", it was about writing well and writing
as if you bloody well understood that your audience at least a lonely dram
of wit slithering around the brain pan someplace. Making a cleverly
amusing and well disguised reference, for a particularly difficult
example, to the tactical military use of a dog with no nose, requires a
certain effort on the writer's part. Likewise, it requires some cognitive
effort, as well as a certain minimum fund of cultural literacy on the part
of the reader, to get the embedded joke. What AFU strongly objected to
was being force-fed as if it was some drooling TV sit com audience.

<URL:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.urban/msg/7964ce3b2ef6f871?hl=en& >
[quote]--------------------------------------------------------------
That "bird flu" stuff could be real. Psittacosis, if I remember how to
spled it. It's a nasty respiratory infection spread by parrots. Maybe
other birds spread it too.

Persons following up with Monty Python jokes will have their hands nailed
to the keyboard.
[unquote]------------------------------------------------------------

The idea is to induce the reader to spit coffee at their monitor in
surprise, not to induce a yawn and a forceful striking of the "Next" key.

Another example:
<URL:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.folklore.urban/msg/8607e58703e4b0e6?hl=en& >


> Threads in AFU don't stay much more focused than do those in AFCA.

Threads, focused? No, but then neither do conversations in real life.
But there is a social contract in each group that sets boundaries and
promotes certain behaviours. As always, those that object to the "herd"
are welcome to follow the time-honored tradition of electronic
conversation fora and start their own group with their own rules.




--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



   
Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:28:59
From: Mike Muth
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com > wrote:


> Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
> Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.

> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Mike Muth wrote:

<snip good information >

I stand corrected. Thank you.

>> Threads in AFU don't stay much more focused than do those in
>> AFCA.

> Threads, focused? No, but then neither do conversations in real
> life. But there is a social contract in each group that sets
> boundaries and promotes certain behaviours. As always, those that
> object to the "herd" are welcome to follow the time-honored
> tradition of electronic conversation fora and start their own
> group with their own rules.

Of course, I do not object to a lack of focus. Some of the most
interesting discussions occur when threads wander. Besides, forcing
folks to remain focused would tend to inhibit free disucssion of the
topic at hand.

I've always enjoyed reading, and sometimes posting to, AFU. I see no
need to change the group. A bit more traffic would be nice, *but*
not if the cost is a change in the culture of AFU. People have died
or just wandered away and the culture has drifted a bit, but that's
normal for any cultural group.

--
Mike
Drop my surname to e-mail me


    
Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:54:03
From:
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote:

>
> > Is it my turn in the AFU Barrel Of Nicey-Nice again? Aw, shit.
> > Cross-posting noted, missive adjusted for broadcast beyond AFU.

Huh, Nicey-nice has migrated to AFU? And it's become a barrel instead of
a month. Odd.


John
--
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts are unwelcome.
Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
Ask me about joining the NRA.


  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:46:59
From: Lon
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
bill van proclaimed:

> In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
> "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
>>BOP?
>
>
> Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
> denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
> interested in following this one.
>
> bill, no idea why alt.coffee

You thought wrong. For extremely tolerant interpretations of "thought"


  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 12:43:52
From: Dr H
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP

On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Mike Williams expostulated:

}Wasn't it bill van who wrote:
} >In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
} > "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
} >
} >> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
} >> BOP?
} >
} >Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
} >denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
} >interested in following this one.
}
}BOP?
}
}Balance of payments?
}Board of Pharmacy?
}Brothers of Peace?
}Bureau of Prisons?
}Ban on Posting?
}
}Care to enlighten any readers of the crosspost who are not familiar with
}APU-specific abbreviations?

Ban on Politics.

It has had but limited success, at the best of times.

Dr H


   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:57:05
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
All things being equal, I'd rather read about moths.

R "I miss her too" TF

Dr H wrote:
>
> Ban on Politics.
>
> It has had but limited success, at the best of times.
>
> Dr H


  
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:45:17
From: David Scheidt
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
In alt.folklore.urban bill van <billvan@separatethis.canada.com > wrote:
:In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org >,
: "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com > wrote:

: > Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
: > BOP?

:Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
:denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
:interested in following this one.

:bill, no idea why alt.coffee

Because Maddy was a denizen of alt.coffee.

DAvid, still misses her


   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:46:33
From: Nick Spalding
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
David Scheidt wrote, in <eifrmt$dr3$2@reader2.panix.com >
on Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:45:17 +0000 (UTC):

> In alt.folklore.urban bill van <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote:
> :In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
> : "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>
> :> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> :> BOP?
>
> :Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
> :denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
> :interested in following this one.
>
> :bill, no idea why alt.coffee
>
> Because Maddy was a denizen of alt.coffee.
>
> DAvid, still misses her

As do I and I am sure lots of others.
--
Nick Spalding


   
Date: 03 Nov 2006 17:31:40
From: Charles Wm. Dimmick
Subject: Re: Rescind the BOP
David Scheidt wrote:

> In alt.folklore.urban bill van <billvan@separatethis.canada.com> wrote:
> :In article <eiesbm$5lo$1@web.aioe.org>,
> : "Made A Line, Page?" <MadeALinePage@MadeALinePage.com> wrote:
>
> :> Kind of slow in here - how about temporarily (for rest of 2006) rescinding
> :> BOP?
>
> :Pardon the additional cross-post, but I thought quite a few of the
> :denizens of afca, which I think of as afu's uninhibited cousin, would be
> :interested in following this one.
>
> :bill, no idea why alt.coffee
>
> Because Maddy was a denizen of alt.coffee.
>
> DAvid, still misses her

As do many others. I'm just so glad that I was able to visit
during her last month.

Charles