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Date: 28 Dec 2006 09:27:35
From: Bwisit
Subject: Schomer and naked portafilter
I haven't seen anything, but is there any article or post about Schomer
using a naked portafilter and if he likes it? If he uses it now as a
training tool in his shops? I would like to think that his first try
would still have been perfect due to his expertise. Or was it a mess
with squirting and droplets everywhere?





 
Date: 29 Dec 2006 07:33:34
From: gscace
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter

notbob wrote:
> On 2006-12-29, mrgnomer@hotmail.com <mrgnomer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > but the naked portafilter is very good a diagnosing technique and with
> > more of the shot to see it's easier to determine the start of blonding
> > that ends the pull.
>
> So, why doesn't someone start the coffee equivelent of FOSS for
> espresso hardware? You pay $40+ for a naked (I hate the prhase
> "crotchless") to learn how to produce the best basket/tamp for a pull.
> But, what good is it after you've learned how? After you have your
> grind, dose, distribution, tamp, etc, down pat and can do it in your
> sleep, what good is it? Don't tell my you're still using the darn
> thing. Whatever. Howzabout offering it up for trade, 2nd hand sale,
> or just plain ol' pass along for free to those who've yet to refine
> their technique. It couldn't be just bragging rights of having a
> naked P/f, could it?
>

Well for one thing, naked pfs are easier to keep clean. I use em for
just that purpose. I don't split my shots up into two drinks - ever.

-Greg



 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 16:59:31
From:
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter

Bwisit wrote:
> I haven't seen anything, but is there any article or post about Schomer
> using a naked portafilter and if he likes it? If he uses it now as a
> training tool in his shops? I would like to think that his first try
> would still have been perfect due to his expertise. Or was it a mess
> with squirting and droplets everywhere?

Going through the archive of articles on the Vivace site I didn't see
anyone that mentioned a naked protafilter. I don't think Schomer would
have a problem with one unless he's really out of practice.

The only time I use a spouted now is to split a double into two
singles. Otherwise I find the pours from the naked portafilter thick
and crema rich. It probably doesn't make a difference in extraction
but the naked portafilter is very good a diagnosing technique and with
more of the shot to see it's easier to determine the start of blonding
that ends the pull.



  
Date: 28 Dec 2006 20:05:08
From: notbob
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter
On 2006-12-29, mrgnomer@hotmail.com <mrgnomer@hotmail.com > wrote:

> but the naked portafilter is very good a diagnosing technique and with
> more of the shot to see it's easier to determine the start of blonding
> that ends the pull.

So, why doesn't someone start the coffee equivelent of FOSS for
espresso hardware? You pay $40+ for a naked (I hate the prhase
"crotchless") to learn how to produce the best basket/tamp for a pull.
But, what good is it after you've learned how? After you have your
grind, dose, distribution, tamp, etc, down pat and can do it in your
sleep, what good is it? Don't tell my you're still using the darn
thing. Whatever. Howzabout offering it up for trade, 2nd hand sale,
or just plain ol' pass along for free to those who've yet to refine
their technique. It couldn't be just bragging rights of having a
naked P/f, could it?

Spread the knowledge.

nb ...I'd pass on my naked sl90 p/f, but I've acheived espresso nirvana without
one. ;)


   
Date: 29 Dec 2006 18:17:49
From: Danny
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter
notbob wrote:

>
> So, why doesn't someone start the coffee equivelent of FOSS for
> espresso hardware? You pay $40+ for a naked (I hate the prhase
> "crotchless") to learn how to produce the best basket/tamp for a pull.
> But, what good is it after you've learned how? After you have your
> grind, dose, distribution, tamp, etc, down pat and can do it in your
> sleep, what good is it? Don't tell my you're still using the darn
> thing. Whatever. Howzabout offering it up for trade, 2nd hand sale,
> or just plain ol' pass along for free to those who've yet to refine
> their technique. It couldn't be just bragging rights of having a
> naked P/f, could it?

Because, as mentioned in someone's previous post, the quality of the
shot is better with the naked PF - crema has more mouthfeel and shots
taster sweeter, at least to my taste. It's not just an aid to
prefecting technique, it is in itself an improvement. And there's no
need to pay anything, provided you have an old pf around. Just hack
it with a drill.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/EU ordering for Malabar Gold blend)



   
Date: 28 Dec 2006 19:33:44
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter
notbob <notbob@nothome.com > wrote:

>On 2006-12-29, mrgnomer@hotmail.com <mrgnomer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> but the naked portafilter is very good a diagnosing technique and with
>> more of the shot to see it's easier to determine the start of blonding
>> that ends the pull.
>
>But, what good is it after you've learned how?
>
The pour is beautiful to watch...


Randy "Look! It's crotchless!" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




 
Date: 28 Dec 2006 09:39:17
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Schomer and naked portafilter
I only tried one once and I had a big mess.

I'm sure it is fun and useful for others.

Dave
200


Bwisit wrote:
> I haven't seen anything, but is there any article or post about Schomer
> using a naked portafilter and if he likes it? If he uses it now as a
> training tool in his shops? I would like to think that his first try
> would still have been perfect due to his expertise. Or was it a mess
> with squirting and droplets everywhere?