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Date: 18 Nov 2006 14:45:09
From: FreeRadical101
Subject: Standalone Steamer
I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder, and
the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.

I know I have two options, there are standalone electric milk steamers,
and then there are stovetop steamers. The questions I have are

a] Does anyone know if the standalone electric steamers have aluminium
parts in them? I'm not crazy about cooking with alum.

b] I don't have gas, just use the electric rangetop. If I use a
stovetop steamer on an electric element, will the steam be plenty
strong/hot enough to steam milk properly?

Thanks.





 
Date: 21 Nov 2006 10:56:01
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer
Many of the standalone steamers would feature aluminum boilers - its a good
material for that use. There's no reason to fear them. Even if you are not
wild about "cooking" with aluminum, plain water is not tomato sauce and the
chances that any of the aluminum would get into the steam are close to nil.
If you were to take the steam from an aluminum boiler and recondense it
(this is called "distillation") you'd get something that is extremely pure
water because water vaporizes at 100C but minerals such as aluminum do not.



"FreeRadical101" <reznik101@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163889909.882571.271240@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
> my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder, and
> the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.
>
> I know I have two options, there are standalone electric milk steamers,
> and then there are stovetop steamers. The questions I have are
>
> a] Does anyone know if the standalone electric steamers have aluminium
> parts in them? I'm not crazy about cooking with alum.
>
> b] I don't have gas, just use the electric rangetop. If I use a
> stovetop steamer on an electric element, will the steam be plenty
> strong/hot enough to steam milk properly?
>
> Thanks.
>




 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 00:48:42
From: FreeRadical101
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer

Roger Shoaf wrote:
>
> As I see it the moka pot does not do a good job of making the coffee so
> therein lies the problem, steamed milk is not going to overcome poor coffee.

The espresso from moka mostly has a burnt taint, but when combined with
heated milk, it's flavour is superb, like a flat white, but without
froth on top. Most froth is horrible anyway, its steam textured milk
that I want to make. The choice of beans is very important for moka
too, some gourmet beans make awful caffe simply cos they're not the
right type/blend.

Of course a decent espresso machine is superior, but to my mind nout
less than a Rancilio Silvia + rocky grinder will do, but can't afford
yet. I've dabbled with lesser espresso machines and they were
disappointing in every way. To be honest, I've even had a lotta short
blacks in cafes and only about four have been really special. A lot of
average espresso in town.

So Moka is a better choice for now, and a lotta fun to make.



 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:05:31
From: Roger Shoaf
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer
If all you are doing is making steam, the aluminum should be no problem.
Water should not pick up any aluminum the way something acidic like
spaghetti sauce would.

As I see it the moka pot does not do a good job of making the coffee so
therein lies the problem, steamed milk is not going to overcome poor coffee.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
"FreeRadical101" <reznik101@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163889909.882571.271240@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
> my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder, and
> the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.
>
> I know I have two options, there are standalone electric milk steamers,
> and then there are stovetop steamers. The questions I have are
>
> a] Does anyone know if the standalone electric steamers have aluminium
> parts in them? I'm not crazy about cooking with alum.
>
> b] I don't have gas, just use the electric rangetop. If I use a
> stovetop steamer on an electric element, will the steam be plenty
> strong/hot enough to steam milk properly?
>
> Thanks.
>




 
Date: 18 Nov 2006 19:50:26
From: DougW
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer
FreeRadical101 wrote:
> I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
> my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder,
> and the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.

Considered a used "steam toy"? I've seen plenty of them in resale
shops and eBay for cheap. As a plus you can try to see if it makes
espresso good enough for milk drinks. If not then hey, you still have
a steamer.

--
DougW




 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 01:17:28
From: Alan
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer

"FreeRadical101" <reznik101@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163889909.882571.271240@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
> my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder, and
> the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.
>
> I know I have two options, there are standalone electric milk steamers,
> and then there are stovetop steamers. The questions I have are
>
> a] Does anyone know if the standalone electric steamers have aluminium
> parts in them? I'm not crazy about cooking with alum.
>
> b] I don't have gas, just use the electric rangetop. If I use a
> stovetop steamer on an electric element, will the steam be plenty
> strong/hot enough to steam milk properly?
>
> Thanks.

Since, as you say, you're not interested in "rigole", I doubt that you'd
seriously consider those ridiculous contraptions that daveb recommended.
If you don't like the idea of aluminum, here's something pretty basic and
very maintenance free:
http://www.espressozone.com/milk-steamer-2653.html

And it'll work perfectly on an electric stove.

Alan




 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 00:31:02
From: Geoff Gatell
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer
I used to have a small gadget from The Bay which I put into a glass of hot
milk with small whizzer thingie. It did a really good job foaming milk and
might be just what you need. It cost about 20 bucks.
"FreeRadical101" and I am sure that they are available in other places.

Geoff Gatrell

White Rock BC.CA


<reznik101@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163889909.882571.271240@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I want a standalone steamer to steam milk to go with the espresso from
> my moka pot. I'm not looking to buy a big espresso machine/grinder, and
> the rigole/bulk that goes with all that.
>
> I know I have two options, there are standalone electric milk steamers,
> and then there are stovetop steamers. The questions I have are
>
> a] Does anyone know if the standalone electric steamers have aluminium
> parts in them? I'm not crazy about cooking with alum.
>
> b] I don't have gas, just use the electric rangetop. If I use a
> stovetop steamer on an electric element, will the steam be plenty
> strong/hot enough to steam milk properly?
>
> Thanks.
>




 
Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:31:44
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Standalone Steamer

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/102-4315459-7157716?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=milk+steamer&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

I am not affiliated in any way with amazon.

dave