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Date: 05 Jun 2007 21:15:34
From:
Subject: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...

I just found this group, which seems to be 99% espresso.
My espresso machine is fine, but I only use it on weekends.

I had an old Krups machine for daily coffee, and it had a large
filter that I could load up for strong coffee. It died a week
ago.

After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
I am getting is too weak.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,


--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)




 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 08:18:36
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
Use less water?

<ahall@no-spam-panix.com > wrote in message
news:kpgtztlq3wp.fsf@panix2.panix.com...
>
> I just found this group, which seems to be 99% espresso.
> My espresso machine is fine, but I only use it on weekends.
>
> I had an old Krups machine for daily coffee, and it had a large
> filter that I could load up for strong coffee. It died a week
> ago.
>
> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
> I am getting is too weak.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)
>




  
Date: 06 Jun 2007 14:50:35
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
There's really a limit on what you can expect a filter drip coffee maker
to do. You can use less water but you'll probably end up with an
incomplete extraction and a loss of flavor components. I recall some
drip machines with a lever to adjust coffee strength. The one I had
restricted the flow of water to the filter basket but was pretty much
ineffective. If you want stronger coffee consider a different method of
brewing.

R "but if you don't care what it tastes like . . ." TF

Jack Denver wrote:
> Use less water?
>
> <ahall@no-spam-panix.com> wrote in message
> news:kpgtztlq3wp.fsf@panix2.panix.com...
>> I just found this group, which seems to be 99% espresso.
>> My espresso machine is fine, but I only use it on weekends.
>>
>> I had an old Krups machine for daily coffee, and it had a large
>> filter that I could load up for strong coffee. It died a week
>> ago.
>>
>> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>> I am getting is too weak.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Hall
>> (Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)
>>
>
>


   
Date: 07 Jun 2007 14:16:59
From:
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
>>>>> Moka Java writes:

Moka > There's really a limit on what you can expect a filter drip coffee
Moka > maker to do. You can use less water but you'll probably end up with
Moka > an incomplete extraction and a loss of flavor components. I recall
Moka > some drip machines with a lever to adjust coffee strength. The one I
Moka > had restricted the flow of water to the filter basket but was pretty
Moka > much ineffective. If you want stronger coffee consider a different
Moka > method of brewing.

But my old machine made it quite strong. The difference, I believe,
is that this new machine has a smaller filter basket, so I cannot use
as much coffee as I used to. Limiting the water has gotten it close,
but I would like to find a machine with a large filter basket.

Thanks to all...

ah

Moka > R "but if you don't care what it tastes like . . ." TF

Moka > Jack Denver wrote:
>> Use less water?
>> <ahall@no-spam-panix.com> wrote in message
news > kpgtztlq3wp.fsf@panix2.panix.com...
>>> I just found this group, which seems to be 99% espresso.
>>> My espresso machine is fine, but I only use it on weekends.
>>>
>>> I had an old Krups machine for daily coffee, and it had a large
>>> filter that I could load up for strong coffee. It died a week
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>>> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>>> I am getting is too weak.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Hall
>>> (Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)
>>>
>>


--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)


   
Date: 06 Jun 2007 17:59:34
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
OK, then order a #6 Melitta cone and a teakettle and skip the autodrip
machine.


"Moka Java" <rtwatches@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:5codt1F312hn1U1@mid.individual.net...
> There's really a limit on what you can expect a filter drip coffee maker
> to do. You can use less water but you'll probably end up with an
> incomplete extraction and a loss of flavor components. I recall some drip
> machines with a lever to adjust coffee strength. The one I had restricted
> the flow of water to the filter basket but was pretty much ineffective.
> If you want stronger coffee consider a different method of brewing.
>
> R "but if you don't care what it tastes like . . ." TF
>
> Jack Denver wrote:
>> Use less water?
>>
>> <ahall@no-spam-panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:kpgtztlq3wp.fsf@panix2.panix.com...
>>> I just found this group, which seems to be 99% espresso.
>>> My espresso machine is fine, but I only use it on weekends.
>>>
>>> I had an old Krups machine for daily coffee, and it had a large
>>> filter that I could load up for strong coffee. It died a week
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>>> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>>> I am getting is too weak.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Hall
>>> (Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)
>>>
>>



 
Date: 06 Jun 2007 01:04:36
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
On 05 Jun 2007 21:15:34 -0400, <ahall@no-spam-panix.com > wrote:

>After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>I am getting is too weak.
>
>Any suggestions?

Grind finer, one step above or down to espresso level.

-- Larry


  
Date: 07 Jun 2007 14:15:30
From:
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
>>>>> pltrgyst writes:

pltrgyst > On 05 Jun 2007 21:15:34 -0400, <ahall@no-spam-panix.com> wrote:
>> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>> I am getting is too weak.
>>
>> Any suggestions?

pltrgyst > Grind finer, one step above or down to espresso level.

I grind very fine.

It is now acceptable, if I only make about 45 ounces, which is just
enough for me and my wife, and also press the 1-4 cup button on the
machine.



--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.coffee...)


  
Date: 06 Jun 2007 12:07:43
From: Moka Java
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
pltrgyst wrote:
> On 05 Jun 2007 21:15:34 -0400, <ahall@no-spam-panix.com> wrote:
>
>> After searching many local stores I could not find an automatic
>> thermal machine with anything more than a #4 filter, and the coffee
>> I am getting is too weak.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Grind finer, one step above or down to espresso level.
>
> -- Larry

I'd be a little worried about doing that. The finer grounds will
restrict water flow and you could end up with a flood.

R "there's nothing like coffee spewing all over the counter first thing
in the morning" TF


   
Date: 06 Jun 2007 15:34:03
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Strong automatic thermal drip machine needed...
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:07:43 -0400, Moka Java <rtwatches@yahoo.com > wrote:


>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Grind finer, one step above or down to espresso level.
>
>I'd be a little worried about doing that. The finer grounds will
>restrict water flow and you could end up with a flood.
>
>R "there's nothing like coffee spewing all over the counter first thing
>in the morning" TF

Well, of course you have to monitor it the first time in case of disaster.

But I do this every morning, with either a gold filter or a paper filter, in my
Krups drip pot, with espresso grind from my Ditting. The only problem I've had
is that I can't brew the full 10 cups with the gold filter, because it's too
short and I get some blow-by. With the #4 paper filters, no problem at all with
a full pot.

Now if I could find a longer or #6 gold filter...

-- Larry