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Date: 16 May 2007 12:47:53
From: TerryR
Subject: Sweet Maria's web site
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I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have always been more than pleased with their products. BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more business. TerryR
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Date: 19 May 2007 18:15:05
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On May 19, 6:00 pm, "Johnny" <removethis.huuan...@hotmail.com > wrote: > <a...@coffeeroastersclub.com> wrote in message > > news:1179550681.834892.110810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...> On May 18, 11:57 pm, "Johnny" <removethis.huuan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > <a...@coffeeroastersclub.com> wrote in message > > > >news:1179501797.222675.255810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" > > <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > > > > > >business. > > > > > > Can you substantiate that? > > > > > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > > > > > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > > > > > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > > > > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually > fix > > > > > it ;- ) > > > > > I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on > > > > many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem > > > > for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer > > > > versions of IE. > > > > > Len > > > > Respectfully I disagree. Usually such settings do not, by design, block > > > windows that open from the same site. > > > If they do you should take that problem up with MS no SM or get a real > > > browser that can tell the difference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Hello. Is your disagreement borne out of actual experience in using > > the newer versions of MS IE set with popup features enabled, or are > > you making your statement just for arguments sake without actually > > having used the newer versions with their site? > > Hello Len, > my disagreemnt is borne out of actual experience: I have used and continue > to use various versions of various browsers on their site up to and > including IE7 and FF2 on windows as well as Safari and Camino on Mac OS X > and links on linix > None of these browsers, including IE7 with pop-up blocker enabled by > default, blocks the launch of the new window from the sweet marias link on > their front page that you mentioned. > <a href="prod.greencoffee.mvc.shtml" target="_blank">huge selection of green > coffees</a> > If it does for you on IE7 then either you have your pop-up settings too > strict (mine are on default which is med) or MS has a bug in their browser. > If you use the High seting on IE then sure it wil do what is says: block all > pop-ups. > Here is some of what MS has to say about pop-ups: > "Some windows are not blocked: Pop-up Blocker is smart enough to not block > pop-up windows that you open deliberately by clicking a link-for example, if > you were on a travel reservation site and you clicked a link to open a > pop-up window containing your confirmation details, this pop-up window would > not be blocked because you opened it intentionally." > > If OTOH it is the launch of the new window that annoys you in IE7 try > holding down the control key as you click the link, that way it will open in > a new tab, even with pop-blocker set to high. > > Happy surfing :-) > > Johnny > > p.s. it is always an option to write Tom and ask him to change those > links...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Johnny, I checked and I had them set to high. I guess when I set it I was having a real bad popup day. I don't do any shopping at sweetmarias. Nothing against the guy, just that there is a closer company to me in New England where I get my green and I have always been satisfied with them. Len ------------------------------------------ http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
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Date: 18 May 2007 21:58:01
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On May 18, 11:57 pm, "Johnny" <removethis.huuan...@hotmail.com > wrote: > <a...@coffeeroastersclub.com> wrote in message > > news:1179501797.222675.255810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > > > >business. > > > > Can you substantiate that? > > > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > > > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > > > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix > > > it ;- ) > > > I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on > > many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem > > for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer > > versions of IE. > > > Len > > Respectfully I disagree. Usually such settings do not, by design, block > windows that open from the same site. > If they do you should take that problem up with MS no SM or get a real > browser that can tell the difference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hello. Is your disagreement borne out of actual experience in using the newer versions of MS IE set with popup features enabled, or are you making your statement just for arguments sake without actually having used the newer versions with their site? In any rate, clicking on links within a website to bring you to another page within the same website should not have to entail opening new windows/browsers all the time. Here is what is causing the constant new window/browser popup issue with their site: an example from their HTML code on their index page: <a href="prod.greencoffee.mvc.shtml" target="_blank" > target="_blank" is unnecessary. If they were to take that out in all their links it would make their site easier to navigate. Len -------------------------------------- http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
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Date: 19 May 2007 15:00:19
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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<admin@coffeeroastersclub.com > wrote in message news:1179550681.834892.110810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On May 18, 11:57 pm, "Johnny" <removethis.huuan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > <a...@coffeeroastersclub.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1179501797.222675.255810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > > > > >business. > > > > > > Can you substantiate that? > > > > > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > > > > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > > > > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > > > > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix > > > > it ;- ) > > > > > I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on > > > many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem > > > for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer > > > versions of IE. > > > > > Len > > > > Respectfully I disagree. Usually such settings do not, by design, block > > windows that open from the same site. > > If they do you should take that problem up with MS no SM or get a real > > browser that can tell the difference.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Hello. Is your disagreement borne out of actual experience in using > the newer versions of MS IE set with popup features enabled, or are > you making your statement just for arguments sake without actually > having used the newer versions with their site? Hello Len, my disagreemnt is borne out of actual experience: I have used and continue to use various versions of various browsers on their site up to and including IE7 and FF2 on windows as well as Safari and Camino on Mac OS X and links on linix None of these browsers, including IE7 with pop-up blocker enabled by default, blocks the launch of the new window from the sweet marias link on their front page that you mentioned. <a href="prod.greencoffee.mvc.shtml" target="_blank" >huge selection of green coffees</a > If it does for you on IE7 then either you have your pop-up settings too strict (mine are on default which is med) or MS has a bug in their browser. If you use the High seting on IE then sure it wil do what is says: block all pop-ups. Here is some of what MS has to say about pop-ups: "Some windows are not blocked: Pop-up Blocker is smart enough to not block pop-up windows that you open deliberately by clicking a link-for example, if you were on a travel reservation site and you clicked a link to open a pop-up window containing your confirmation details, this pop-up window would not be blocked because you opened it intentionally." If OTOH it is the launch of the new window that annoys you in IE7 try holding down the control key as you click the link, that way it will open in a new tab, even with pop-blocker set to high. Happy surfing :-) Johnny p.s. it is always an option to write Tom and ask him to change those links...
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Date: 18 May 2007 21:44:14
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On May 18, 11:57 pm, "Johnny" <removethis.huuan...@hotmail.com > wrote: > <a...@coffeeroastersclub.com> wrote in message > > news:1179501797.222675.255810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net> wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > > > >business. > > > > Can you substantiate that? > > > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > > > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > > > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix > > > it ;- ) > > > I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on > > many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem > > for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer > > versions of IE. > > > Len > > Respectfully I disagree. Usually such settings do not, by design, block > windows that open from the same site. > If they do you should take that problem up with MS no SM or get a real > browser that can tell the difference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hello. Is your disagreement borne out of actual experience of using the newer versions of MS IE set with popup features on with sweetmarias site, or are you making your statement just for arguments sake without actually having used the newer versions with their site? In any rate, clicking on links within a website to bring you to another page in the same website should have to entail opening new windows/browsers all the time. There should not be much argument there. Here is what is causing the constant new window/browser popup issue with their site: example: <a href="prod.greencoffee.mvc.shtml" target="_blank" > target="_blank" is unnecessary. If they were to take that out it would make their site easier to navigate. Len -------------------------------------- http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
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Date: 18 May 2007 08:23:17
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net > wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > >business. > > Can you substantiate that? > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix > it ;- ) I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer versions of IE. Len ---------------------------------------- http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
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Date: 18 May 2007 20:57:21
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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<admin@coffeeroastersclub.com > wrote in message news:1179501797.222675.255810@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On May 16, 5:36 pm, Steve <n...@use.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > > >business. > > > > Can you substantiate that? > > > > They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales > > created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced > > web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. > > > > OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix > > it ;- ) > > I think the major problem with their website is that when you click on > many of their links it opens a new browser. This presents a problem > for people who choose not to have pop ups open up on the newer > versions of IE. > > Len Respectfully I disagree. Usually such settings do not, by design, block windows that open from the same site. If they do you should take that problem up with MS no SM or get a real browser that can tell the difference.
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Date: 17 May 2007 07:56:51
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On May 16, 3:47 pm, "TerryR" <TerryRnos...@yahoo.com > wrote: > I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have > always been more than pleased with their products. > > BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work > and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's get > a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > business. > > TerryR Terry, Their website is definitely old style construction. Even so, it is #1 in the search engine results (and that is not the paid advertising on Google). An envious position to be in. Is it the way they constructed their site? Who knows. Probably the amount of links that go to SweetMarias. Len ----------------------------------- http://www.CoffeeRoastersClub.com
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Date: 16 May 2007 19:34:09
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... > I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have > always been more than pleased with their products. > > BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work > and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's get > a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more > business. > > TerryR > So I have to ask: have you taken this up with them before posting here? Personally I find I am able to order coffee from the SM site and get info. What exactly is it that is missing? BTW that's a rhetorical question. You really ought to take it up with tom.
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Date: 16 May 2007 18:07:45
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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One of the best web sites on the net. Lots of information there. More real coffee information than any other vendor site I have found. I can't imagine what you would expect. "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >always been more than pleased with their products. > > BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work > and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's > get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through > more business. > > TerryR >
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Date: 16 May 2007 20:42:18
From: TerryR
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote in message news:_bCdnaq-3vELE9bbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net... > One of the best web sites on the net. Lots of information there. More > real coffee information than any other vendor site I have found. I can't > imagine what you would expect. > As a minimum, I would like to be able to order a product without getting an web-site error. I'll try to order again tomorrow, maybe they will fix it by then.
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Date: 16 May 2007 23:29:51
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:W76dnU4-X8-cUtbbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@giganews.com... > > "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote in message > news:_bCdnaq-3vELE9bbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net... > > One of the best web sites on the net. Lots of information there. More > > real coffee information than any other vendor site I have found. I can't > > imagine what you would expect. > > > As a minimum, I would like to be able to order a product without getting an > web-site error. I'll try to order again tomorrow, maybe they will fix it by > then. > It seems to be fixed now, maybe they are monitoring this group ;-)
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Date: 17 May 2007 00:29:17
From: TerryR
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"Johnny" <removethis.huuanito@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:aDS2i.373421$6P2.150288@newsfe16.phx... > > "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:W76dnU4-X8-cUtbbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote in message >> news:_bCdnaq-3vELE9bbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net... >> > One of the best web sites on the net. Lots of information there. More >> > real coffee information than any other vendor site I have found. I > can't >> > imagine what you would expect. >> > >> As a minimum, I would like to be able to order a product without getting > an >> web-site error. I'll try to order again tomorrow, maybe they will fix it > by >> then. >> > It seems to be fixed now, maybe they are monitoring this group ;-) > > It's not fixed, try ordering 1 pound of Moki's farm Kona. You will get this error: Fatal Error Miva Merchant has encountered a fatal error and is unable to continue. The following information may assist you in determining the cause of the error: Error Code: MER-DTB-00072 Description: Product '1081' not found (../../common/oui_system.mvi:39)
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Date: 17 May 2007 06:14:35
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Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 00:29:17 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote: > >"Johnny" <removethis.huuanito@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:aDS2i.373421$6P2.150288@newsfe16.phx... >> >> "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:W76dnU4-X8-cUtbbnZ2dnUVZ_tyinZ2d@giganews.com... >>> >>> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote in message >>> news:_bCdnaq-3vELE9bbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net... >It's not fixed, try ordering 1 pound of Moki's farm Kona. You will get this >error: > Fatal Error > > > Miva Merchant has encountered a fatal error and is unable to >continue. The following information may assist you in determining the cause >of the error: > > Error Code: MER-DTB-00072 > Description: Product '1081' not found >(../../common/oui_system.mvi:39) > > > I do not know this specific case, but Kona coffee supplies are low right now. 2006-2007 was a smaller crop with a higher demand:) but as Bob theorises, coffee is really a bi-annual crop, with heavy crop one year followed by lighter crop. If all proves out, this year's crop ought to be bigger. Adequate moisture and lots of green and growing beans with Jackson chameleons enjoying their spring time too. aloha, Cea roast beans to kona to email farmers of Pure Kona
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Date: 17 May 2007 15:13:56
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 00:29:17 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote: >It's not fixed, try ordering 1 pound of Moki's farm Kona. You will get this >error: That's a link from 3/28. That coffee is not on the list of available coffees shown if you scroll down a bit. Apparently only the Kowali Typica XF is in.
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Date: 16 May 2007 23:14:28
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote in message news:_bCdnaq-3vELE9bbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net... > One of the best web sites on the net. Lots of information there. More > real coffee information than any other vendor site I have found. I can't > imagine what you would expect. > > "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >>always been more than pleased with their products. >> >> BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't >> work and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet >> Maria's get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself >> through more business. >> >> TerryR >> > Couldn't agree more, it is a great source of information and response to any queries have been incredibly fast and is, in my opinion, one of the better websites around. BMC
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Date: 16 May 2007 15:20:35
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote: >I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >always been more than pleased with their products. > >BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work >and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's get >a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more >business. > >TerryR > They like the folksuy Splel Czech louk and feal
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Date: 16 May 2007 21:36:46
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:47:53 -0700, "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote: >I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through more >business. Can you substantiate that? They do it all in-house now, so I would guess the additional sales created by web site improvement would have to cover the out-sourced web design and maintenance. That's a lot of additional sales. OTOH, if you let them know of a problem with the site they usually fix it ;- )
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Date: 16 May 2007 20:08:23
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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Howdy Terry! Are they keeping costs down by not investing in a high-end web design? Imagine what the price of beans would be if they *were* perfect. Me, I'll not complain any more about SM's web site as long as the quality is there. -- Robert (Please don't buy from folks that post advertisements in this newsgroup!) Harmon -- http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages. http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page. http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here. Remove "ZED" from address if replying by email. "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >always been more than pleased with their products. > > BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work > and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's > get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through > more business. > > TerryR >
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Date: 16 May 2007 20:40:38
From: TerryR
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"Robert Harmon" <r_h_harmon@Zhotmail.com > wrote in message news:XwJ2i.16183$3P3.1120@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Howdy Terry! > Are they keeping costs down by not investing in a high-end web design? > Imagine what the price of beans would be if they *were* perfect. Me, I'll > not complain any more about SM's web site as long as the quality is there. > -- > Robert (Please don't buy from folks that post advertisements in this > newsgroup!) Harmon > -- > http://www.tinyurl.com/mb4uj - My coffee pages. > http://www.tinyurl.com/2tnv87 - My 'Guidelines For Newbies' page. > http://www.tinyurl.com/2cr3e2 - I have things for sale here. > > Remove "ZED" from address if replying by email. > "TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >>I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >>always been more than pleased with their products. >> >> BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't >> work and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet >> Maria's get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself >> through more business. >> >> TerryR >> > Today the site would not let me place an order for the Kona I wanted. The "buy 1 pound" link resulted in an error. No other way to place that order. This is not the first time that has happened. Don't get me wrong, I will still order from them because their products and prices are the best.
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Date: 16 May 2007 20:06:45
From: Brian Colwell
Subject: Re: Sweet Maria's web site
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"TerryR" <TerryRnospam@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:XuednQgv0flMwtbbnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >I have been ordering things from Sweet Maria's for a long time and have >always been more than pleased with their products. > > BUT, their web-site sucks big time. Links to products sometimes don't work > and a thousand other things. Why can't a vender as good as Sweet Maria's > get a decent web-site? I'm sure it would more than pay for itself through > more business. > > TerryR I have not run into any problems..........Have you spoken to them, about what your experiencing ? BMC
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