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Date: 17 Oct 2006 15:48:37
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/74533/coffee_maker_my_review_of_t
he_technivorm.html



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Date: 20 Oct 2006 12:03:24
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review

Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
> > With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just under
> > $400: a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.
>
> Will this Cuisinart steam pump espresso bar do?
>
> Which grinder is $200 or less and will do well?
>
> Is that Gaggia Espresso, the espresso maker?
>

Something else to consider: Zassenhaus make some really good quality
hand-cranked grinders that are even good enough to grind for espresso
machines. They're useful to have around even if you also have a good
electric mill for a backup, for e.g. when travelling, or if you aren't
permitted to use home-electrics at work. The downside is of course the
not-inconsiderable time spent grinding, but if it makes the difference
between having a good burr or a whirley, there's no contest!



  
Date: 20 Oct 2006 14:20:56
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com > wrote :

>
> Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
>> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>>
>> > With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just
under
>> > $400: a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.
>>
>> Will this Cuisinart steam pump espresso bar do?
>>
>> Which grinder is $200 or less and will do well?
>>
>> Is that Gaggia Espresso, the espresso maker?
>>
>
> Something else to consider: Zassenhaus make some really good quality
> hand-cranked grinders that are even good enough to grind for espresso
> machines. They're useful to have around even if you also have a good
> electric mill for a backup, for e.g. when travelling, or if you aren't
> permitted to use home-electrics at work. The downside is of course
the
> not-inconsiderable time spent grinding, but if it makes the difference
> between having a good burr or a whirley, there's no contest!
>

I see some on Ebay, but some are vintage collectibles. Will they still
work good for espresso and coffee? Looks like some old German ones.


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Date: 19 Oct 2006 06:35:21
From: Omniryx@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
I implore you, if you even THINK that you might want to make espresso,
do not go cheap on the grinder. IMO, the Rocky is about as low as I
would go. Others will disagree and, heck, they may be right. But I
feel confident that virtually all of us would agree that no hundred
buck grinder is going to satisfy you in the long run. If you are quite
sure that espresso is not going to be part of your future, then the
refurbed KA ProLine is probably a real good choice. Otherwise, I'd
start lusting over the Rancilio pages.

Warning....this hobby IS addictive. There was a time when I thought
that a Chemex was all I would ever want and now I find that I just
traded up from my Silvia to the Brewtus II and am caching pennies for a
Versalab grinder. Insane. Just absolutely insane.

Will



 
Date: 18 Oct 2006 12:27:21
From: Max Benjamin
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
I've had a Technivorm for a few years now, and I have no reservations
when I say that it will still be used many years from now. They're
built very well. Are they worth the cost...that's subjective. Depends
on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the best tasting cup
of coffee from a drip machine, It's my humble opinion that you don't
have to spend that kind of money. I also own a Melita Clarity that I
was lucky enough to purchase for $20, and that included shipping, back
when they were still in production. It brews at 204 degrees. A
Clarity can still be found once in awhile on eBay. The difference in
the cup...I can't detect any. And that's is with home roasted beans.

If you want to save some money and have a better cup of coffee than a
Technivorm is capable of producing, I've found the Aeropress can blow
just about everything else into the weeds. I was skeptical of the
little plastic contraption at first, but now it's my favorite way to
brew coffee. It only brews one cup at a time, so the Technivorm and
Clarity are still there for backup when needed.



  
Date: 19 Oct 2006 13:07:03
From: Bradley
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
On 18 Oct 2006 12:27:21 -0700, "Max Benjamin" <shotgunmax@charter.net >
wrote:

>I've had a Technivorm for a few years now, and I have no reservations
>when I say that it will still be used many years from now. They're
>built very well. Are they worth the cost...that's subjective. Depends
>on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the best tasting cup
>of coffee from a drip machine, It's my humble opinion that you don't
>have to spend that kind of money. I also own a Melita Clarity that I
>was lucky enough to purchase for $20, and that included shipping, back
>when they were still in production. It brews at 204 degrees. A
>Clarity can still be found once in awhile on eBay. The difference in
>the cup...I can't detect any. And that's is with home roasted beans.
>

I believe that there may be a significant variance in the performance
of samples of the Chinese-made Clarity. We consistently got a bitter
after-taste from our Clarity, whether from Thom's coffee-of-the-week
out of his Probat or from beans I've roasted myself. I don't have a
temp probe but believe that my Clarity was brewing too hot. Just got
my TV yesterday. World of difference, both in depth of flavor and in
lack of edge or bitter after-taste. Not looking back. Perhaps
another Clarity coming soon to an Ebay near you.

Brad


  
Date: 18 Oct 2006 18:17:50
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Max Benjamin" <shotgunmax@charter.net > wrote :

> I've had a Technivorm for a few years now, and I have no reservations
> when I say that it will still be used many years from now. They're
> built very well. Are they worth the cost...that's subjective.
Depends
> on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the best tasting
cup
> of coffee from a drip machine, It's my humble opinion that you don't
> have to spend that kind of money. I also own a Melita Clarity that I
> was lucky enough to purchase for $20, and that included shipping, back
> when they were still in production. It brews at 204 degrees. A
> Clarity can still be found once in awhile on eBay. The difference in
> the cup...I can't detect any. And that's is with home roasted beans.
>
> If you want to save some money and have a better cup of coffee than a
> Technivorm is capable of producing, I've found the Aeropress can blow
> just about everything else into the weeds. I was skeptical of the
> little plastic contraption at first, but now it's my favorite way to
> brew coffee. It only brews one cup at a time, so the Technivorm and
> Clarity are still there for backup when needed.
>
>

The TV will do just fine, thanks. :) That Melita sounds nice but like
you said, it's discontinued and has to be hunted for, while I already
have the TV. :)

Yes, I need to find something around here to sell, so I can get a better
grinder, it seems, then just sell the blade grinder to make up some of
it.

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Date: 17 Oct 2006 19:12:56
From:
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
Now that you have a great coffee maker, it's time to improve the
quality of the coffee you're putting in the thing. Trust me on this:
You can do much, much better than Starbucks. After a few samples of
some top quality, freshly roasted coffee, you will never go back to
starbucks again. I

f you have a good local roaster, check it out. If not, there are
excellent on-line vendors of roasted coffee. Do yourself and your new
Tecnivorm a favor and try some really good coffee. It will make a
bigger difference than a new burr grinder would. Sow's ears and silk
purses and all that.

I see you're in Colorado. What part? Maybe someone here can make a
recommendation on a local roaster.




On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:48:37 -0500, Coffee Lover Girl
<Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote:

>http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/74533/coffee_maker_my_review_of_t
>he_technivorm.html





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Date: 18 Oct 2006 18:15:24
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
Roque Ja wrote :

> Now that you have a great coffee maker, it's time to improve the
> quality of the coffee you're putting in the thing. Trust me on this:
> You can do much, much better than Starbucks. After a few samples of
> some top quality, freshly roasted coffee, you will never go back to
> starbucks again. I
>
> f you have a good local roaster, check it out. If not, there are
> excellent on-line vendors of roasted coffee. Do yourself and your new
> Tecnivorm a favor and try some really good coffee. It will make a
> bigger difference than a new burr grinder would. Sow's ears and silk
> purses and all that.
>
> I see you're in Colorado. What part? Maybe someone here can make a
> recommendation on a local roaster.

West Denver.

I've tried local roasters and didn't like them compared to the Starbucks
Sulawesi that I like. One that I tried and didn't like, went out of
business later.

But I'm open minded.


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Date: 18 Oct 2006 19:19:36
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
Ok people, so what's currently the most bang for the buck in a good
grinder in the $50 range. I haven't made espresso yet, and don't know if I
can, but at least something that will work better for the Technivorm than
this blade grinder?

I was just looking at
http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders?Page=2&SeeAll=1
and see that higher rated grinders don't necessarily have to cost $400 or
$3200, but what would you recommend that I can afford?


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Date: 18 Oct 2006 17:55:23
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
I'd either grab a Capresso Infinity for $89, or better still, grab one of
the refurb Kitchenaid Prolines off of Amazon, which are $129 before the 25
coupon code for kitchen stuff.

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
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> Ok people, so what's currently the most bang for the buck in a good
> grinder in the $50 range. I haven't made espresso yet, and don't know if I
> can, but at least something that will work better for the Technivorm than
> this blade grinder?
>
> I was just looking at
> http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders?Page=2&SeeAll=1
> and see that higher rated grinders don't necessarily have to cost $400 or
> $3200, but what would you recommend that I can afford?
>
>
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>
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Date: 18 Oct 2006 21:43:48
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> I'd either grab a Capresso Infinity for $89, or better still, grab
> one of the refurb Kitchenaid Prolines off of Amazon, which are $129
> before the 25 coupon code for kitchen stuff.

Thanks! That Capresso Infinity gets 4 1/2 stars in 45 ratings on
Amazon.com, which equates to an average of 9 on a scale of 1-10. Wow.




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Date: 18 Oct 2006 21:32:33
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
I have two of the Infinity's. They won't do for espresso, which was a big
disappointment. Not even close. I'm also not crazy about the rectangular
shaped bin.

On the positive side, it is a good grinder and it is surprisingly quiet.

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:YvudnYEzUcr5e6vYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
>> I'd either grab a Capresso Infinity for $89, or better still, grab
>> one of the refurb Kitchenaid Prolines off of Amazon, which are $129
>> before the 25 coupon code for kitchen stuff.
>
> Thanks! That Capresso Infinity gets 4 1/2 stars in 45 ratings on
> Amazon.com, which equates to an average of 9 on a scale of 1-10. Wow.
>
>
>
>
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>
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Date: 19 Oct 2006 00:15:54
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> I have two of the Infinity's. They won't do for espresso, which was
> a big disappointment. Not even close. I'm also not crazy about the
> rectangular shaped bin.
>
> On the positive side, it is a good grinder and it is surprisingly
> quiet.

I've never made espresso but might like to some day. But do you have to
have like $1000 worth of equipment to do it right?

It's so frustrating. I bought a Cuisinart Espresso Bar ( the one they were
selling a few years back that used pressurized steam ) and then found out
that my $50 Braun burr grinder wouldn't grind fine enough for it to work
right, so the Espresso Bar has been sitting around for a few years unused
now.


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Date: 18 Oct 2006 23:28:53
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just under $400:
a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.

If you ever have any aspirations to making espresso, I'd get the $200
grinder now, since it would work beautifully for the Technivorm.

Also, you can look for certain used equipment. As my backup machine, I
picked up a used Gaggia Espresso for $60. It needed a little work (about
$15 in parts). It is a superb machine.

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:Br6dnQFb2MSXl6rYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
>> I have two of the Infinity's. They won't do for espresso, which was
>> a big disappointment. Not even close. I'm also not crazy about the
>> rectangular shaped bin.
>>
>> On the positive side, it is a good grinder and it is surprisingly
>> quiet.
>
> I've never made espresso but might like to some day. But do you have to
> have like $1000 worth of equipment to do it right?
>
> It's so frustrating. I bought a Cuisinart Espresso Bar ( the one they were
> selling a few years back that used pressurized steam ) and then found out
> that my $50 Braun burr grinder wouldn't grind fine enough for it to work
> right, so the Espresso Bar has been sitting around for a few years unused
> now.
>
>
> --
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>
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> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




         
Date: 19 Oct 2006 14:29:43
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just under
> $400: a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.
>
> If you ever have any aspirations to making espresso, I'd get the $200
> grinder now, since it would work beautifully for the Technivorm.
>
> Also, you can look for certain used equipment. As my backup machine,
> I picked up a used Gaggia Espresso for $60. It needed a little work
> (about $15 in parts). It is a superb machine.
>

I was just taking a peek on ebay and there are all kinds of models. Which
model is it?



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Date: 19 Oct 2006 12:48:22
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
I explain all the relevant particulars in a single page at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~crimsoncascade/

You can also find it on Amazon as one of the most read Guides. It's called
something like "So you'd like to make fine espresso at home.."

You ought to consider buying from wholelattelove.com since they're the U.S.
distributor for Gaggia, so that if anything goes wrong, they're going to be
supporting you and servicing it.

They often have coupons like right now: "scary31" will get you $10 off any
order of $50 or more, until Oct 31st.

Look also for refurb's. My opinion is that their refurbs are better than
their new Gaggia's, since it means it's been thoroughly inspected by a tech,
and not just stuck in a box at a factory.

The Gaggia Espresso and the Gaggia Carezza are identical on the inside, but
have different plastic chassis. The Gaggia Coffee is also the same on the
inside, but is more expensive because its chassis is metal and not plastic.
These are superb machines which can make superb espresso. The Cuisinart
will not do.

As for espresso grinders. The budget ones new are the Cunill Tranquillo and
the Gaggia MDF. A Nemox Lux will also do. Of these, Wholelattelove only
sells the Gaggia MDF. The Cunill can be bought from sovranostore.com (I may
the spelling wrong.) It's also called the Astra.

I'm here if you need me. Please read my one page guide. It'll make you an
expert!

C

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:iPadnex8uoq6T6rYnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
>> With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just under
>> $400: a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.
>>
>> If you ever have any aspirations to making espresso, I'd get the $200
>> grinder now, since it would work beautifully for the Technivorm.
>>
>> Also, you can look for certain used equipment. As my backup machine,
>> I picked up a used Gaggia Espresso for $60. It needed a little work
>> (about $15 in parts). It is a superb machine.
>>
>
> I was just taking a peek on ebay and there are all kinds of models. Which
> model is it?
>
>
>
> --
> Coffee Lover
>
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> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




           
Date: 20 Oct 2006 13:27:40
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> As for espresso grinders. The budget ones new are the Cunill
> Tranquillo and the Gaggia MDF. A Nemox Lux will also do. Of these,
> Wholelattelove only sells the Gaggia MDF. The Cunill can be bought
> from sovranostore.com (I may the spelling wrong.) It's also called
> the Astra.
>
> I'm here if you need me. Please read my one page guide. It'll make
> you an expert!
>
> C


Are all Gaggia grinders as good for espresso?
I just did a search at amazon.com and found some Gaggia models, new for
$99. http://tinyurl.com/y26s8j

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Date: 20 Oct 2006 12:20:57
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
Not all Gaggia grinders are alike. The Gaggia MM is a piece of crap --
you'd be better off stomping on your beans with your feet. The Gaggia MDF
is the only Gaggia grinder good enough for espresso.

Since the MDF runs around $175, you could consider going to Grinder Forum on
coffeegeek.com and asking if anyone knows of a sale on a better grinder in
that price range for espresso.

Truthfully, I'd buy the Astra over the MDF. It's MUCH better for the price.
It's here:

http://sovranastore.com/esgrin.html

That's $199. Zaccardi's sells the same grinder for around $350.

Cordo

"Coffee Lover Girl" <Coffee_Lover@coffee.zzz > wrote in message
news:6vSdnWMT56SBiKTYnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@forethought.net...
> "Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com> wrote :
>
>> As for espresso grinders. The budget ones new are the Cunill
>> Tranquillo and the Gaggia MDF. A Nemox Lux will also do. Of these,
>> Wholelattelove only sells the Gaggia MDF. The Cunill can be bought
>> from sovranostore.com (I may the spelling wrong.) It's also called
>> the Astra.
>>
>> I'm here if you need me. Please read my one page guide. It'll make
>> you an expert!
>>
>> C
>
>
> Are all Gaggia grinders as good for espresso?
> I just did a search at amazon.com and found some Gaggia models, new for
> $99. http://tinyurl.com/y26s8j
>
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>
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> http://pleasehelpjennifer.com/




           
Date: 20 Oct 2006 13:18:16
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> I explain all the relevant particulars in a single page at:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~crimsoncascade/
>
> You can also find it on Amazon as one of the most read Guides. It's
> called something like "So you'd like to make fine espresso at home.."
>
> You ought to consider buying from wholelattelove.com since they're
> the U.S. distributor for Gaggia, so that if anything goes wrong,
> they're going to be supporting you and servicing it.
>
> They often have coupons like right now: "scary31" will get you $10
> off any order of $50 or more, until Oct 31st.
>
> Look also for refurb's. My opinion is that their refurbs are better
> than their new Gaggia's, since it means it's been thoroughly
> inspected by a tech, and not just stuck in a box at a factory.
>
> The Gaggia Espresso and the Gaggia Carezza are identical on the
> inside, but have different plastic chassis. The Gaggia Coffee is
> also the same on the inside, but is more expensive because its
> chassis is metal and not plastic. These are superb machines which can
> make superb espresso. The Cuisinart will not do.
>
> As for espresso grinders. The budget ones new are the Cunill
> Tranquillo and the Gaggia MDF. A Nemox Lux will also do. Of these,
> Wholelattelove only sells the Gaggia MDF. The Cunill can be bought
> from sovranostore.com (I may the spelling wrong.) It's also called
> the Astra.
>
> I'm here if you need me. Please read my one page guide. It'll make
> you an expert!
>
> C
>

Thank you C!



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Date: 19 Oct 2006 14:17:33
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Cordovero" <cordoveroremovexxx@yahooxxx.com > wrote :

> With freshly roasted beans, you can get real espresso for just under
> $400: a Gaggia Espresso or Carezza, and any of a few $200 grinders.

Will this Cuisinart steam pump espresso bar do?

Which grinder is $200 or less and will do well?

Is that Gaggia Espresso, the espresso maker?

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Date: 17 Oct 2006 17:49:17
From: Mike White
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> "Mike White" <Fajitapot@gmail.com> wrote :
>
> >
> > Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> >> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/74533/coffee_maker_my_review
> >> _of_t he_technivorm.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Coffee Lover
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
> >
> > Sounds like a nice experience. Think how much better it would be
> > with a burr grinder!
> >
> >
>
> How so? I had a Braun model, about $50 originally, but it would never
> grind fine enough for espresso and it was jamming a lot in recent years,
> so I got the Starbucks blade grinder. Can't afford much. I think it was
> around $30. They say it's just as good though, you just gotta grind for
> a certain time.
>
>
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>
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The differences are well documented in this group and a quick search
would turn up lots of results so i'll spare you the details.
Essentially, blade grinders don't "grind" at all, they "slice". The
results of "slicing" are uneven, exposing varying degrees of the bean
to the water. Burr grinders are much more consistent. For a little
more money than you spent on the whirly bird you could buy a bottom of
the line burr grinder that's twice as good (though not nearly good
enough for any espresso machine worth owning). You bought a top notch
brewer, it deserves an actual grinder.

(Respectfully)

Mike



 
Date: 17 Oct 2006 14:22:01
From: Mike White
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review

Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/74533/coffee_maker_my_review_of_t
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Sounds like a nice experience. Think how much better it would be with
a burr grinder!



  
Date: 17 Oct 2006 18:22:10
From: Coffee Lover Girl
Subject: Re: Technivorm KB-741 Clubline review
"Mike White" <Fajitapot@gmail.com > wrote :

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> Coffee Lover Girl wrote:
>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/74533/coffee_maker_my_review
>> _of_t he_technivorm.html
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>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Coffee_/
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> Sounds like a nice experience. Think how much better it would be
> with a burr grinder!
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How so? I had a Braun model, about $50 originally, but it would never
grind fine enough for espresso and it was jamming a lot in recent years,
so I got the Starbucks blade grinder. Can't afford much. I think it was
around $30. They say it's just as good though, you just gotta grind for
a certain time.


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