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Date: 09 Feb 2007 09:36:27
From: Maggielari
Subject: Temperature of water
Hi,
I'm as new as you can get when it comes to espresso machine. I've
had a Breville 800ESXL Die Cast for 10 months and I've been
practising and practising, for the last two months,to get everything
right and have a long, long way to go yet. In the specifications for
Breville it says;" The Breville boasts a thermoblock heating system
that maintains an ideal 204 F. temperature during extraction." I
tested one day what the heat of the water was during extraction and
I've done that 5 times one after the other and each time the
temperature was 170 F. Could you tell me if the temperature of 170 F.
is about what it should be for extraction of the coffee. The way I've
done that is that I let the machine warm up for about one hour and
than I put a cappuccino cup under the filter holder with a digital
thermometer in the cup while the water was seeping in the cup, and
everytime the temperature was 170 F. Does that sound good to you? I
would appreciate your comments on that. Thanks Maggielari





 
Date: 10 Feb 2007 02:33:51
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Temperature of water
Howdy Maggielari!
I forgot to mention the only true test - how does it taste to you? All the
latest whiz-bangs mean nothing if what goes into your mouth isn't pleasing
to the palate.
--
Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/psfob
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r
"Maggielari" <presence@sympatico.ca > wrote in message
news:1171042587.394985.279680@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> I'm as new as you can get when it comes to espresso machine. I've
> had a Breville 800ESXL Die Cast for 10 months and I've been
> practising and practising, for the last two months,to get everything
> right and have a long, long way to go yet. In the specifications for
> Breville it says;" The Breville boasts a thermoblock heating system
> that maintains an ideal 204 F. temperature during extraction." I
> tested one day what the heat of the water was during extraction and
> I've done that 5 times one after the other and each time the
> temperature was 170 F. Could you tell me if the temperature of 170 F.
> is about what it should be for extraction of the coffee. The way I've
> done that is that I let the machine warm up for about one hour and
> than I put a cappuccino cup under the filter holder with a digital
> thermometer in the cup while the water was seeping in the cup, and
> everytime the temperature was 170 F. Does that sound good to you? I
> would appreciate your comments on that. Thanks Maggielari
>




 
Date: 09 Feb 2007 18:23:17
From: akiley
Subject: Re: Temperature of water
I have a thermo couple digital thermometer. I use the Styrofoam cup
method to check the water temp when I do a cooling flush. (HX
machine) It starts out roughly 210f. I let if flush till it drops to
about 200f. (10 to 20 second flush) I then take the empty
portafilter off, and pack the coffee and extract. I've been measuring
the temp of the espresso as it drips into a 2 oz double walled glass
shot glass. That temp is about 170 at the surface of the just
extracted 1.5oz of espresso.

They say the pros can tell a taste difference of 1 or 2 degrees. I
don't think I can tell unless it varies more like 5 degrees up or
down. Fresh roasted quality coffee makes a much bigger difference to
me. Also, the quality of the extraction makes a big difference. You
need those tiger stripes with no yellow gushing spots, and 20 to 35
seconds pull time. Naked portafilter really really helps here. ...
akiley




 
Date: 09 Feb 2007 18:40:33
From: Robert Harmon
Subject: Re: Temperature of water
Measuring in a cup is too inaccurate. Try using this method for testing brew
temp, http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/HowToTempCheck.html, then come
back for more help.

If you can't find a proper thermostat for your machine I guess you could PID
it. Try contacting Dave @ www.hitechespresso.com for ideas.
--
Robert (Gig 'em!) Harmon
http://tinyurl.com/pou2y
http://tinyurl.com/psfob
http://tinyurl.com/fkd6r

"Maggielari" <presence@sympatico.ca > wrote in message
news:1171042587.394985.279680@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> I'm as new as you can get when it comes to espresso machine. I've
> had a Breville 800ESXL Die Cast for 10 months and I've been
> practising and practising, for the last two months,to get everything
> right and have a long, long way to go yet. In the specifications for
> Breville it says;" The Breville boasts a thermoblock heating system
> that maintains an ideal 204 F. temperature during extraction." I
> tested one day what the heat of the water was during extraction and
> I've done that 5 times one after the other and each time the
> temperature was 170 F. Could you tell me if the temperature of 170 F.
> is about what it should be for extraction of the coffee. The way I've
> done that is that I let the machine warm up for about one hour and
> than I put a cappuccino cup under the filter holder with a digital
> thermometer in the cup while the water was seeping in the cup, and
> everytime the temperature was 170 F. Does that sound good to you? I
> would appreciate your comments on that. Thanks Maggielari
>