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Date: 20 Apr 2007 10:55:44
From: Java562
Subject: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
I've been following this machine for a long time and heard that they
updated their machines to work with pods. Not really a feature that I
want, but are there any other updates to this machines besides that?
Any of you guys bought the updated Silvia yet? Thoughts on it? Any
problems with it? I want to buy one soon, please help. Thanks.





 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 22:19:03
From: Dave b
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
On Apr 20, 10:14 pm, "Harry Moos" <har...@ruraltel.net > wrote:
> "Randy G." <f...@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ugdi23poni5d3gvgb3nq91h4b75qhh7r2g@4ax.com...
>
> > I will add- if you had bought one a year ago, and had just one drink
> > per day since, by now you would have enjoyed 365 beverages. Buying
> > those at a coffee shop with a crunchy or crispy yo enjoy with them
> > would have cost you two to three times the price of a Silvia (not
> > including the coffee you would needed to purchase)! ;-)
>
> I keep hearing this argument for purchase, and while it may be [is] true --
> it is not the whole story. In a society where the individual is becoming
> more and more isolated, having that coffee shop cup and crispy may be
> invaluable. My Silvia sits idle three days a week now while I have inferior
> coffee with donuts and friends at the coffee shop. Since I retired, I need
> the company more than I need great coffee. And, unfortunately, people
> around here go out for their morning coffee rather than gather in each
> other's kitchens. I guess that's why the Italians export most home
> espresso machines and get their own cup at the local cafe.

[That is just rg's OT plea, and does not address the op's questions.]

You have made a good point, Harry.




 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 15:41:28
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
On 20 Apr 2007 10:55:44 -0700, Java562 <Vutha562@gmail.com > wrote:

>I've been following this machine for a long time and heard that they
>updated their machines to work with pods. Not really a feature that I
>want, but are there any other updates to this machines besides that?
>Any of you guys bought the updated Silvia yet? Thoughts on it? Any
>problems with it? I want to buy one soon, please help. Thanks.

Either get one with a PID or get something else.
Just my 2d.


 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 15:37:38
From: Dave b
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?


Starter espresso grinder?

A brand new Gaggia MDF grinder is under $200

and does a Great job. -- I owned and used one for years.

I cannot recommend anything cheaper.

Dave
238
877 286 2833



 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 22:34:27
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
See http://www.coffeeco.com.au/newsletter/november2006.html .


--
Alan

alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au




 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 15:33:21
From: Dave b
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
On Apr 20, 1:55 pm, Java562 <Vutha...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I've been following this machine for a long time and heard that they
> updated their machines to work with pods. Not really a feature that I
> want, but are there any other updates to this machines besides that?
> Any of you guys bought the updated Silvia yet? Thoughts on it? Any
> problems with it? I want to buy one soon, please help. Thanks.


Sold (and tested) DOZENS of the new ones. (for my 'pid' silvia
customers)

Other than cosmetics and the new pressure regulator (which came before
the cosmetic changes) -- nothing really new.

WATCH FOR:

leaks at the pump outlet threads

and / or

a sticky 3 way valve (caused by a tiny burr on the valve plunger)

both easy to fix -- but NOT something a new owner should have to worry
about -- INSIST that new one be unboxed and tested.

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com



 
Date: 20 Apr 2007 14:25:55
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
Java562 <Vutha562@gmail.com > wrote:

>I've been following this machine for a long time and heard that they
>updated their machines to work with pods. Not really a feature that I
>want, but are there any other updates to this machines besides that?
>Any of you guys bought the updated Silvia yet? Thoughts on it? Any
>problems with it? I want to buy one soon, please help. Thanks.
>

I won't HELP you buy one soon, but I can suggest you buy one soon. The
Silvia has been around for about 7-8 years now I think, and there have
been a few changes along the line, but nothing of earth shattering
proportions. In late 2000 they changed the boiler design- went from a
bolt-in heating element to a welded in element that eliminated the
possibility of leakage there. Recently they changed the design of the
pressure relief valve from one that was set at the factory, to one
that is adjustable (internally, with simple tools, although there is
no pressure gauge).

As you hinted, pods are not a selling point in this price range to
most people (you can make coffee just as bad for a lot less if you
want to use pods), but don't forget you NEED to budget _about_ $250 or
more for a grinder as well. The grinder is critical.


Randy "Oh, ya! And good coffee" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




  
Date: 20 Apr 2007 14:57:08
From: Randy G.
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
Randy G. <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote:

>Java562 <Vutha562@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I've been following this machine for a long time and heard that they
>>updated their machines to work with pods. Not really a feature that I
>>want, but are there any other updates to this machines besides that?
>>Any of you guys bought the updated Silvia yet? Thoughts on it? Any
>>problems with it? I want to buy one soon, please help. Thanks.
>>
>
>I won't HELP you buy one soon, but I can suggest you buy one soon.
>

I will add- if you had bought one a year ago, and had just one drink
per day since, by now you would have enjoyed 365 beverages. Buying
those at a coffee shop with a crunchy or crispy yo enjoy with them
would have cost you two to three times the price of a Silvia (not
including the coffee you would needed to purchase)! ;-)

Randy "Oh, ya! And like I said before, good coffee" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com



Randy "" G.
http://www.EspressoMyEspresso.com




   
Date: 20 Apr 2007 21:14:55
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com > wrote in message
news:ugdi23poni5d3gvgb3nq91h4b75qhh7r2g@4ax.com...
> I will add- if you had bought one a year ago, and had just one drink
> per day since, by now you would have enjoyed 365 beverages. Buying
> those at a coffee shop with a crunchy or crispy yo enjoy with them
> would have cost you two to three times the price of a Silvia (not
> including the coffee you would needed to purchase)! ;-)

I keep hearing this argument for purchase, and while it may be [is] true --
it is not the whole story. In a society where the individual is becoming
more and more isolated, having that coffee shop cup and crispy may be
invaluable. My Silvia sits idle three days a week now while I have inferior
coffee with donuts and friends at the coffee shop. Since I retired, I need
the company more than I need great coffee. And, unfortunately, people
around here go out for their morning coffee rather than gather in each
other's kitchens. I guess that's why the Italians export most home
espresso machines and get their own cup at the local cafe.




    
Date: 26 Apr 2007 20:46:35
From: Douglas W Hoyt
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the New Rancilio Silvia?
>>>> I guess that's why the Italians export most home espresso machines and
>>>> get their own cup at the local cafe.

Though it's usually a quick flick of the wrist to down the espresso, 90
cents paid, and they're out of there.