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Date: 26 Sep 2006 17:12:26
From: Jim
Subject: Tips for Gaggia Classic newbie?
My old machine croaked on Friday, so I just upgraded to a gently used
Gaggia Classic. I know that there's a learning curve with every
machine, and I was wondering if other owners might give me some tips on
how any of their techniques vary from the instructions (which I have,
including the CD).

This is my third day of use, and I'm not yet consistent on frothing vs.
steaming. Sometimes I get more froth, sometimes more milk. Ideally,
I'd like to be able to do either or. Has anybody tried putting an O
ring over the air intake slots? Tips in that area are appreciated.

Despite what the former owner said, it appears that this machine likes a
very fine grind??? The Starbuck's (I know, I know) grind is not fine
enough, or it wants more than a 30 lbs. tamp.

Also, either the supplied tamp doesn't fit tightly with the double
basket, or she gave me the wrong one. Does anybody know the correct mm
size? I caught a message saying that there's a model that clicks like a
torque wrench when you hit 30 pounds. Worth it? Name and source?

I also have a Gaggia MDF on it's way here. I was using a POS blade type
with the old machine. The Starbuck's (Charbuck's?) purchase was
intended to hold me over until my new grinder arrives.

At the risk of rambling: Drink choices run the spectrum of espresso
(sometimes Cuban style with a cigar), to dry cappuccino or machiatto, to
latte with sugarless Hazelnut, to iced latte. If it matters, I roast my
own (modified popcorn popper). I source the beans from Sweet ia's.

An aside on my purchase choice: I spent an hour or so on Saturday
reading old posts. I was ready to buy a new Sylvia when this used
Gaggia popped up on my local craigslist. Owner said that it had been
boiled out and checked by the locally accepted expert repair shop at the
same time that she had her old one rebuilt. I asked why she chose to
rebuild the broken one and sell the newer Classic. Her response:
"white looks better in my kitchen" (true story, I saw it on the
counter). She accepted my $200 offer, so I'm happy to own what is
considered by many to be "second best" in this price range, when I can
save $300.




 
Date: 26 Sep 2006 21:29:26
From: Harry Moos
Subject: Re: Tips for Gaggia Classic newbie?
The Gaggia portafilter is 58mm. The one that is included is fairly
worthless. My 58mm tamper is a sliding fit in the double basket. I hate
frothy milk, so I never use it for that -- just to heat the cup.

"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com > wrote in message
news:12hjgfarlthmldc@corp.supernews.com...
> My old machine croaked on Friday, so I just upgraded to a gently used
> Gaggia Classic. I know that there's a learning curve with every machine,
> and I was wondering if other owners might give me some tips on how any of
> their techniques vary from the instructions (which I have, including the
> CD).
>
> This is my third day of use, and I'm not yet consistent on frothing vs.
> steaming. Sometimes I get more froth, sometimes more milk. Ideally, I'd
> like to be able to do either or. Has anybody tried putting an O ring over
> the air intake slots? Tips in that area are appreciated.
>
> Despite what the former owner said, it appears that this machine likes a
> very fine grind??? The Starbuck's (I know, I know) grind is not fine
> enough, or it wants more than a 30 lbs. tamp.
>
> Also, either the supplied tamp doesn't fit tightly with the double basket,
> or she gave me the wrong one. Does anybody know the correct mm size? I
> caught a message saying that there's a model that clicks like a torque
> wrench when you hit 30 pounds. Worth it? Name and source?
>
> I also have a Gaggia MDF on it's way here. I was using a POS blade type
> with the old machine. The Starbuck's (Charbuck's?) purchase was intended
> to hold me over until my new grinder arrives.
>
> At the risk of rambling: Drink choices run the spectrum of espresso
> (sometimes Cuban style with a cigar), to dry cappuccino or machiatto, to
> latte with sugarless Hazelnut, to iced latte. If it matters, I roast my
> own (modified popcorn popper). I source the beans from Sweet ia's.
>
> An aside on my purchase choice: I spent an hour or so on Saturday reading
> old posts. I was ready to buy a new Sylvia when this used Gaggia popped
> up on my local craigslist. Owner said that it had been boiled out and
> checked by the locally accepted expert repair shop at the same time that
> she had her old one rebuilt. I asked why she chose to rebuild the broken
> one and sell the newer Classic. Her response: "white looks better in my
> kitchen" (true story, I saw it on the counter). She accepted my $200
> offer, so I'm happy to own what is considered by many to be "second best"
> in this price range, when I can save $300.




  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:57:35
From: hudson
Subject: Re: Tips for Gaggia Classic newbie?

"Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net > wrote in message
news:Z8WdncfgeYWff4TYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net...
> The Gaggia portafilter is 58mm. The one that is included is fairly
> worthless. My 58mm tamper is a sliding fit in the double basket. I hate
> frothy milk, so I never use it for that -- just to heat the cup.
>
> "Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com> wrote in message
> news:12hjgfarlthmldc@corp.supernews.com...
>> My old machine croaked on Friday, so I just upgraded to a gently used
>> Gaggia Classic. I know that there's a learning curve with every machine,
>> and I was wondering if other owners might give me some tips on how any of
>> their techniques vary from the instructions (which I have, including the
>> CD).
>>
>> This is my third day of use, and I'm not yet consistent on frothing vs.
>> steaming. Sometimes I get more froth, sometimes more milk. Ideally, I'd
>> like to be able to do either or. Has anybody tried putting an O ring
>> over the air intake slots? Tips in that area are appreciated.

The trouble is that the Classic has come with several incarnations of
frother. If yours is like mine, being an older Gaggia, you may just have a
very simple plastic tube with a hole at the top and when you pull it off
there is quite a long piece of steam pipe inside. If this is the one you
have what I did was throw the sleeve in the drawer and learn to surf the tip
of the steam pipe. Works great.

Stuart Hudson




   
Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:40:27
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Tips for Gaggia Classic newbie?
hudson wrote:

> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote in message
> news:Z8WdncfgeYWff4TYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net...
>
>>The Gaggia portafilter is 58mm. The one that is included is fairly
>>worthless. My 58mm tamper is a sliding fit in the double basket. I hate
>>frothy milk, so I never use it for that -- just to heat the cup.
>>
>>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com> wrote in message
>>news:12hjgfarlthmldc@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>My old machine croaked on Friday, so I just upgraded to a gently used
>>>Gaggia Classic. I know that there's a learning curve with every machine,
>>>and I was wondering if other owners might give me some tips on how any of
>>>their techniques vary from the instructions (which I have, including the
>>>CD).
>>>
>>>This is my third day of use, and I'm not yet consistent on frothing vs.
>>>steaming. Sometimes I get more froth, sometimes more milk. Ideally, I'd
>>>like to be able to do either or. Has anybody tried putting an O ring
>>>over the air intake slots? Tips in that area are appreciated.
>
>
> The trouble is that the Classic has come with several incarnations of
> frother. If yours is like mine, being an older Gaggia, you may just have a
> very simple plastic tube with a hole at the top and when you pull it off
> there is quite a long piece of steam pipe inside. If this is the one you
> have what I did was throw the sleeve in the drawer and learn to surf the tip
> of the steam pipe. Works great.
>
> Stuart Hudson
>
>

Mine has a double wall black plastic tube the rests over an O ring.
There are tiny ridges at the top of the tube to allow air intake. I may
try a second O ring to block the intake.


    
Date: 28 Sep 2006 18:19:45
From: Natalie Drest
Subject: Re: Tips for Gaggia Classic newbie?
"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com > wrote in message
news:12hldsaed12n8c7@corp.supernews.com...
> hudson wrote:
>
>> "Harry Moos" <harrym@ruraltel.net> wrote in message
>> news:Z8WdncfgeYWff4TYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@news.ruraltel.net...
>>
>>>The Gaggia portafilter is 58mm. The one that is included is fairly
>>>worthless. My 58mm tamper is a sliding fit in the double basket. I hate
>>>frothy milk, so I never use it for that -- just to heat the cup.
>>>
>>>"Jim" <askme@beforeyousend.com> wrote in message
>>>news:12hjgfarlthmldc@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>My old machine croaked on Friday, so I just upgraded to a gently used
>>>>Gaggia Classic. I know that there's a learning curve with every
>>>>machine, and I was wondering if other owners might give me some tips on
>>>>how any of their techniques vary from the instructions (which I have,
>>>>including the CD).
>>>>
>>>>This is my third day of use, and I'm not yet consistent on frothing vs.
>>>>steaming. Sometimes I get more froth, sometimes more milk. Ideally,
>>>>I'd like to be able to do either or. Has anybody tried putting an O
>>>>ring over the air intake slots? Tips in that area are appreciated.
>>
>>
>> The trouble is that the Classic has come with several incarnations of
>> frother. If yours is like mine, being an older Gaggia, you may just have
>> a very simple plastic tube with a hole at the top and when you pull it
>> off there is quite a long piece of steam pipe inside. If this is the one
>> you have what I did was throw the sleeve in the drawer and learn to surf
>> the tip of the steam pipe. Works great.
>>
>> Stuart Hudson
>
> Mine has a double wall black plastic tube the rests over an O ring. There
> are tiny ridges at the top of the tube to allow air intake. I may try a
> second O ring to block the intake.

I use Blu-Tack, loks revolting but does the trick- I can make great creamy
microfroth.. I plan to fit a better arn eventually, but I may try an
'O'-ring in the meantime- it sounds much more elegant.


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