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Date: 27 Oct 2006 01:37:27
From: daveb
Subject: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.

Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
minute,15 seconds.

TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive

End result:

1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
production with NO flushing.

2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
clicking, clacking etc.

The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
none. ~~~ now even better.

Dave
www.hitechespresso.com





 
Date: 29 Oct 2006 04:31:38
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
8
JoeP wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.
> >
> > Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
> > minute,15 seconds.
> >
> > TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive
> >
> > End result:
> >
> > 1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
> > production with NO flushing.
> >
> > 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> > clicking, clacking etc.
> >
> > The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
> > none. ~~~ now even better.
> >
> > Dave
> > www.hitechespresso.com
>
> How much does this bad boy cost anyways? Does this mean HX are cool
> again?
>
> Joe
> www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com
> "freinds getting together splitting bags of coffee"



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 15:24:07
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
please write me off line if you wish, Joep

dave
137.5



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:32:30
From: JoeP
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.

daveb wrote:
> Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.
>
> Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
> minute,15 seconds.
>
> TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive
>
> End result:
>
> 1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
> production with NO flushing.
>
> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> clicking, clacking etc.
>
> The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
> none. ~~~ now even better.
>
> Dave
> www.hitechespresso.com

How much does this bad boy cost anyways? Does this mean HX are cool
again?

Joe
www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com
"freinds getting together splitting bags of coffee"



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:17:07
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
oh, OK Phil.

Dave
137.5

Phil P wrote:
> I->Ian wrote:
> > On 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >daveb wrote:
> > >
> > >[snip more spam]
> > >
> > >> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> > >> clicking, clacking etc.
> > >
> > >Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
> > >temperature directly?
> >
> > Steaming?
>
> Again it's linked more with the water temp and volume; you can't hope
> to accurately control pressure during steaming and it's no longer
> relevant when the boiler is idling. Just seems like an irrelevence iro
> the commercial advertiser's product.



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:13:39
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Update

daveb wrote:
> observe / set your OWN pressure using the temp controller?

Why? It's totally meaningless



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:08:07
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.

I- >Ian wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >daveb wrote:
> >
> >[snip more spam]
> >
> >> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> >> clicking, clacking etc.
> >
> >Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
> >temperature directly?
>
> Steaming?

Again it's linked more with the water temp and volume; you can't hope
to accurately control pressure during steaming and it's no longer
relevant when the boiler is idling. Just seems like an irrelevence iro
the commercial advertiser's product.



  
Date: 28 Oct 2006 18:45:59
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
On 27 Oct 2006 14:08:07 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>I->Ian wrote:
>> On 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >daveb wrote:
>> >
>> >[snip more spam]
>> >
>> >> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
>> >> clicking, clacking etc.
>> >
>> >Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
>> >temperature directly?
>>
>> Steaming?
>
>Again it's linked more with the water temp and volume; you can't hope
>to accurately control pressure during steaming and it's no longer
>relevant when the boiler is idling. Just seems like an irrelevence iro
>the commercial advertiser's product.

Don't know about other HX pid10t's but better foam is produced here
when starting with ~1.2bar/~250F than with ~0.6bar/~234F, normal shot
pulling SV temp.

When making frufru, crank SV temp to ~250F and steaming is much
easier, always starting with the same pressure...

The above is what I understood "2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate
control over pressures" to mean.


 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:01:52
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Update

observe / set your OWN pressure using the temp controller?
dave
137.5
www.hitechespresso.com

I- >Ian wrote:
> On 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >daveb wrote:
> >
> >[snip more spam]
> >
> >> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> >> clicking, clacking etc.
> >
> >Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
> >temperature directly?
>
> Steaming?



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52
From: Phil P
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.

daveb wrote:

[snip more spam]

> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> clicking, clacking etc.

Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
temperature directly?



  
Date: 27 Oct 2006 20:16:15
From: I->Ian
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
On 27 Oct 2006 10:09:52 -0700, "Phil P" <charneybarn@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>daveb wrote:
>
>[snip more spam]
>
>> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
>> clicking, clacking etc.
>
>Why would you care about boiler pressure now that you're controlling
>temperature directly?

Steaming?


 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 09:50:27
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -
thanx, C.
the TC placement low in the boiler allows very for very close tracking
of the set point.
The owner should have it late next week. I'm waiting for his comments!


dave
137

Cordovero wrote:
> Very cool news, Dave. Sounds amazing...
>
> C
>
> "daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161938246.954131.307580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.
> >
> > Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
> > minute,15 seconds.
> >
> > TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive
> >
> > End result:
> >
> > 1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
> > production with NO flushing.
> >
> > 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> > clicking, clacking etc.
> >
> > The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
> > none. ~~~ now even better.
> >
> > Dave
> > www.hitechespresso.com
> >



 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 09:31:37
From: Cordovero
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.
Very cool news, Dave. Sounds amazing...

C

"daveb" <davebobblane@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1161938246.954131.307580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.
>
> Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
> minute,15 seconds.
>
> TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive
>
> End result:
>
> 1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
> production with NO flushing.
>
> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> clicking, clacking etc.
>
> The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
> none. ~~~ now even better.
>
> Dave
> www.hitechespresso.com
>




 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 09:34:40
From: JoeP
Subject: Re: Update on 'pid' Vetrano -- completed. shipped.

daveb wrote:
> Upgrade complete. pressurestat in the trash.
>
> Switch from optimized brew mode to 'HX' mode is accomplished in 1
> minute,15 seconds.
>
> TC probe in boiler amazingly responsive
>
> End result:
>
> 1) NO flushing needed in 'brew' mode and superb tunable esprsso
> production with NO flushing.
>
> 2) Full power 'HX' with more accurate control over pressures, and NO
> clicking, clacking etc.
>
> The QuickMill is a super machine, quality of fit and finish second to
> none. ~~~ now even better.
>
> Dave

Hahaha your pretty funny Dave. Sometimes I get the impression you like
to create a little chaos just to see how it spins out of control. Your
quite the needler. You were pretty criticle of expobars products why
are you so high on Quickmill? Just curious. I'll watch the flood of
encouraging responses to your post.

Joe
www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com
"where freinds get together and split bags of coffee"

> www.hitechespresso.com