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Date: 21 Apr 2007 08:23:42
From: Ken
Subject: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter "mu"). Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 microS/cc would convert to? Thanks Ken K
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Date: 21 Apr 2007 15:33:35
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 8:23 AM: > I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in > parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter "mu"). > > Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 microS/cc > would convert to? > > Thanks > Ken K Jim S wrote: Really tough conversion: micrograms/cc == 800 ppm. Engineers sometimes get religion. They then form a new sect of the Metric Church and declare holy war on all the others. PPM, mg/L, and mu-g/cc are all ways of saying the same thing. If someone gives you a long gibbesish sermon on why it's unscientific (rhymes with unholy) to use one or the other, you've run into a metric church sectarian.
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Date: 21 Apr 2007 15:36:13
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:33 PM: > Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 8:23 AM: >> I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in >> parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter >> "mu"). >> >> Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 >> microS/cc would convert to? >> >> Thanks >> Ken K > Jim S wrote: > > Really tough conversion: micrograms/cc == 800 ppm. > > Engineers sometimes get religion. They then form a new sect of the > Metric Church and declare holy war on all the others. PPM, mg/L, and > mu-g/cc are all ways of saying the same thing. If someone gives you a > long gibbesish sermon on why it's unscientific (rhymes with unholy) to > use one or the other, you've run into a metric church sectarian. Jim, The Hanna test liquid is 800 microS per cc, so how does that convert to ppm? When I use the meter and the 800 microS/cc test fluid, the meter registers 37 ppm. This is beooming confusing...
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Date: 22 Apr 2007 11:17:21
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:36 PM: > Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:33 PM: >> Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 8:23 AM: >>> I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in >>> parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter >>> "mu"). >>> >>> Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 >>> microS/cc would convert to? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Ken K >> Jim S wrote: >> >> Really tough conversion: micrograms/cc == 800 ppm. >> >> Engineers sometimes get religion. They then form a new sect of the >> Metric Church and declare holy war on all the others. PPM, mg/L, and >> mu-g/cc are all ways of saying the same thing. If someone gives you a >> long gibbesish sermon on why it's unscientific (rhymes with unholy) to >> use one or the other, you've run into a metric church sectarian. > Jim, > > The Hanna test liquid is 800 microS per cc, so how does that convert to > ppm? When I use the meter and the 800 microS/cc test fluid, the meter > registers 37 ppm. > > This is beooming confusing... Mistake. The standard fluid is 84 microS/cc (not 800), which corresponds to 42 ppm (http://www.biophysica.com/conductivity.htm), so the meter was fairly close when it measured 37 ppm for calibration.
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Date: 22 Apr 2007 15:08:57
From: Johnny
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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"Ken" <ken@comcast.net > wrote in message news:u42dnQiNZNfOO7bbnZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com... > Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:36 PM: > > Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:33 PM: > >> Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 8:23 AM: > >>> I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in > >>> parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter > >>> "mu"). > >>> > >>> Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 > >>> microS/cc would convert to? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Ken K > >> Jim S wrote: > >> > >> Really tough conversion: micrograms/cc == 800 ppm. > >> > >> Engineers sometimes get religion. They then form a new sect of the > >> Metric Church and declare holy war on all the others. PPM, mg/L, and > >> mu-g/cc are all ways of saying the same thing. If someone gives you a > >> long gibbesish sermon on why it's unscientific (rhymes with unholy) to > >> use one or the other, you've run into a metric church sectarian. > > Jim, > > > > The Hanna test liquid is 800 microS per cc, so how does that convert to > > ppm? When I use the meter and the 800 microS/cc test fluid, the meter > > registers 37 ppm. > > > > This is beooming confusing... > Mistake. The standard fluid is 84 microS/cc (not 800), which > corresponds to 42 ppm (http://www.biophysica.com/conductivity.htm), so > the meter was fairly close when it measured 37 ppm for calibration. yes. very confusing to others reading this thread repeated mistake : microS/cc should be: microS/cm
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Date: 23 Apr 2007 20:23:13
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Johnny wrote: > "Ken" <ken@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:u42dnQiNZNfOO7bbnZ2dnUVZ_sHinZ2d@comcast.com... >> Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:36 PM: >>> Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 3:33 PM: >>>> Ken said the following on 4/21/2007 8:23 AM: >>>>> I am using a Hanna TDS meter to test water hardness; its output is in >>>>> parts per million. The test solution is 800 microS/cc (Greek letter >>>>> "mu"). >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know the conversion factor? How many ppm the 800 >>>>> microS/cc would convert to? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Ken K >>>> Jim S wrote: >>>> >>>> Really tough conversion: micrograms/cc == 800 ppm. >>>> >>>> Engineers sometimes get religion. They then form a new sect of the >>>> Metric Church and declare holy war on all the others. PPM, mg/L, and >>>> mu-g/cc are all ways of saying the same thing. If someone gives you a >>>> long gibbesish sermon on why it's unscientific (rhymes with unholy) to >>>> use one or the other, you've run into a metric church sectarian. >>> Jim, >>> >>> The Hanna test liquid is 800 microS per cc, so how does that convert to >>> ppm? When I use the meter and the 800 microS/cc test fluid, the meter >>> registers 37 ppm. >>> >>> This is beooming confusing... >> Mistake. The standard fluid is 84 microS/cc (not 800), which >> corresponds to 42 ppm (http://www.biophysica.com/conductivity.htm), so >> the meter was fairly close when it measured 37 ppm for calibration. > yes. very confusing to others reading this thread > repeated mistake : microS/cc > should be: microS/cm > > My apologies...
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Date: 21 Apr 2007 12:55:39
From: Felix
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Barry Jarrett (rileys-coffee.com) writes: > roughly: > > 1 ppm = 1.5 microSiemen > > google is your friend: > http://www.sensorex.com/support/education/conductivity_education.html All true ... the trick in this case is to use "microsiemen" instead of its abbreviation, e.g. search for "tds ppm microsiemen". Re: "roughly." The conversion factor depends on the solution's composition, so this "mixed salts" formula is only an approximation. Hanna provides another formula for CaCO3 on page 3 of this document: http://www.hannacan.com/Literature/Industriel-controllers.pdf If Ken's test solution is a calibration product, I'd use the NaCl formula. There's a bunch in a table here: http://www.cannonwater.com/Products/standards.html Felix
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Date: 21 Apr 2007 19:07:57
From: Barry Jarrett
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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roughly: 1 ppm = 1.5 microSiemen google is your friend: http://www.sensorex.com/support/education/conductivity_education.html
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Date: 21 Apr 2007 12:55:26
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Water hardness: converter microS/cc to ppm
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Excellent. Thanks Barry Jarrett said the following on 4/21/2007 12:07 PM: > roughly: > > 1 ppm = 1.5 microSiemen > > > google is your friend: > http://www.sensorex.com/support/education/conductivity_education.html > >
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