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Date: 05 Mar 2007 00:54:55
From: Brewer Bob
Subject: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
http://tinyurl.com/3c7v3g

Looks like it specs out real good but, I've never heard of them before.


Bob




 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 18:30:10
From: daveb
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 5, 3:53 pm, Danny <d...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote:
> daveb wrote:
> > uh, yes I did.
>
> > another expected response.
>
> > who needs another espresso machine with a dumb name? really?
>
> Most responses are far more useful than your (now expected) 1 line
> derogatory responses.
>
> It's a VFA 'cos that's the company that makes them. It's a "Pronta" I
> assume because it's ready for use in a very short time. Seems
> sensible enough to me. More sensible than "Silvia" for example (or
> Epocha, come to that).
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com(a purely hobby site)

read all the links 'danny'

dave



  
Date: 06 Mar 2007 06:44:57
From: Danny
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
daveb wrote:

> read all the links 'danny'
>
> dave
>

Well they like big tough words over there. No namby-pamby Pronto for
them. It's tough & strong :)

Mind you, many E61 clones are rebadged and at least this machine has
some interesting features, although the Ebay sales pitch is awful and
not orientated towards quality, but profit.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)



 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 12:22:05
From: daveb
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 5, 1:55 pm, coffeeem...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 5, 10:40 am, Danny <d...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > daveb wrote:
>
> > -snip-
>
> > > Ho hum, just another spanish machine . . .
>
> > > dave
>
> > VFA are a decent manufacturer. Don't you ever actually read the links?
>
> > <http://www.vfa-expres.com/pdf/VFA%20Pronta!%20web.pdf>
>
> > But I'll save you the effort...
>
> > Seperate steam/hot water boiler, hot water adjustable by mixing with
> > cold water.
> > Seperate boiler for each group
> > Thermosyphon heads
> > Electronic temperature control for each group (0.1 degrees C)
> > and each group independently switchable
> > ready for first shot within two minutes
> > Easily serviceable - major panels are removeable without even taking
> > cups off the warmer.
>
> > I wouldn't call that a "ho-hum just another spanish machine".
>
> > Same as my Spanish ho-hum lever machine (which is acknowledged to be
> > inferior to Italian Gaggia) has produced in excess of 130,000 shots
> > with no major component failure and no down time.
>
> > --
> > Regards, Danny
>
> >http://www.gaggia-espresso.com(apurely hobby site)
>
> Their ad states "200 service centers nationwide." What can that
> mean?
> tin

who knows?
but call 'em they'll read you the list I guess . . .

dave



 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 12:20:36
From: daveb
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 5, 1:40 pm, Danny <d...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote:
> daveb wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
> > Ho hum, just another spanish machine . . .
>
> > dave
>
> VFA are a decent manufacturer. Don't you ever actually read the links?
>
> <http://www.vfa-expres.com/pdf/VFA%20Pronta!%20web.pdf>

uh, yes I did.

another expected response.

who needs another espresso machine with a dumb name? really?



  
Date: 05 Mar 2007 20:53:32
From: Danny
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
daveb wrote:

> uh, yes I did.
>
> another expected response.
>
> who needs another espresso machine with a dumb name? really?
>

Most responses are far more useful than your (now expected) 1 line
derogatory responses.

It's a VFA 'cos that's the company that makes them. It's a "Pronta" I
assume because it's ready for use in a very short time. Seems
sensible enough to me. More sensible than "Silvia" for example (or
Epocha, come to that).


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)



 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 10:55:15
From:
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 5, 10:40 am, Danny <d...@nospam.gaggia-espresso.com > wrote:
> daveb wrote:
>
> -snip-
>
> > Ho hum, just another spanish machine . . .
>
> > dave
>
> VFA are a decent manufacturer. Don't you ever actually read the links?
>
> <http://www.vfa-expres.com/pdf/VFA%20Pronta!%20web.pdf>
>
> But I'll save you the effort...
>
> Seperate steam/hot water boiler, hot water adjustable by mixing with
> cold water.
> Seperate boiler for each group
> Thermosyphon heads
> Electronic temperature control for each group (0.1 degrees C)
> and each group independently switchable
> ready for first shot within two minutes
> Easily serviceable - major panels are removeable without even taking
> cups off the warmer.
>
> I wouldn't call that a "ho-hum just another spanish machine".
>
> Same as my Spanish ho-hum lever machine (which is acknowledged to be
> inferior to Italian Gaggia) has produced in excess of 130,000 shots
> with no major component failure and no down time.
>
> --
> Regards, Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com(a purely hobby site)

Their ad states "200 service centers nationwide." What can that
mean?
tin



  
Date: 05 Mar 2007 19:14:08
From: Danny
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
coffeeemail@gmail.com wrote:

> Their ad states "200 service centers nationwide." What can that
> mean?
> tin
>

Haven't read that bit but their web site shows 15 or so US
distributors, out of about 50 worldwide.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)



 
Date: 04 Mar 2007 23:59:13
From: daveb
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 4, 10:06 pm, "Paul Pratt" <p...@just-java.com > wrote:
> On 5, 8:54 am, Brewer Bob <bob-girol...@nospam.sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3c7v3g
>
> > Looks like it specs out real good but, I've never heard of them before.
>
> > Bob
>
> VFA Pronta I believe
>
> http://www.vfa-expres.com/eng/vfaexpres00.asp
>
> Paul

Paul nailed that!

Ho hum, just another spanish machine . . .

dave



  
Date: 05 Mar 2007 18:40:31
From: Danny
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
daveb wrote:
-snip-
> Ho hum, just another spanish machine . . .
>
> dave
>

VFA are a decent manufacturer. Don't you ever actually read the links?

<http://www.vfa-expres.com/pdf/VFA%20Pronta!%20web.pdf >

But I'll save you the effort...

Seperate steam/hot water boiler, hot water adjustable by mixing with
cold water.
Seperate boiler for each group
Thermosyphon heads
Electronic temperature control for each group (0.1 degrees C)
and each group independently switchable
ready for first shot within two minutes
Easily serviceable - major panels are removeable without even taking
cups off the warmer.

I wouldn't call that a "ho-hum just another spanish machine".

Same as my Spanish ho-hum lever machine (which is acknowledged to be
inferior to Italian Gaggia) has produced in excess of 130,000 shots
with no major component failure and no down time.


--
Regards, Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)



 
Date: 04 Mar 2007 19:06:55
From: Paul Pratt
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 5, 8:54 am, Brewer Bob <bob-girol...@nospam.sbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/3c7v3g
>
> Looks like it specs out real good but, I've never heard of them before.
>
> Bob

VFA Pronta I believe

http://www.vfa-expres.com/eng/vfaexpres00.asp

Paul



  
Date: 12 Mar 2007 14:07:22
From: jim schulman
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this espersso machine?
On 4 2007 19:06:55 -0800, "Paul Pratt" <paul@just-java.com > wrote:

> VFA Pronta I believe
>
>http://www.vfa-expres.com/eng/vfaexpres00.asp

Yep. I've always wondered why the machine hasn't caused any buzz --
it's been out about 3 years now.