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Date: 24 Sep 2006 04:45:01
From: Kruger Kid
Subject: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Where can you get Tartaric acid to clean a espresso machine.
I understand this is what is recommended for aluminum boilers. Also
the ingredient in the Gaggia Descaler.
Kruger.
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 12:30:50
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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don't worry -- don't use it.
d
J=E9r=E9my JUST wrote:
> Le Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:45:01 GMT,
> Kruger Kid <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com> a =E9crit :
>
> > Where can you get Tartaric acid to clean a espresso machine.
> > I understand this is what is recommended for aluminum boilers.
>
> At what concentration do you use it?
>=20
> --=20
> J=E9r=E9my JUST <jeremy_just@netcourrier.com>
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 23:52:18
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=E9my?= JUST
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Le Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:43:05 GMT,
Kruger Kid <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com > a écrit :
> My superket has Cream of Tarter. Which is Poassium tartrate. Can
> this be subsituted for Tartaric acid?
No, the tartrate form is not acidic.
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Jérémy JUST <jeremy_just@netcourrier.com >
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 19:50:41
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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It must be somewhat acidic - it's used as the acid half of certain baking
powders (with sodium bicarbonate supplying the base). Whether it's as acidic
as the pure tartaric acid I dunno - I suppose it's less.
"Jérémy JUST" <jeremy_just@netcourrier.com > wrote in message
news:20060924235218.48ba668a@norbert.jejust.info...
> Le Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:43:05 GMT,
> Kruger Kid <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com> a écrit :
>
>> My superket has Cream of Tarter. Which is Poassium tartrate. Can
>> this be subsituted for Tartaric acid?
>
> No, the tartrate form is not acidic.
>
>
> --
> Jérémy JUST <jeremy_just@netcourrier.com>
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 17:02:31
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=E9my?= JUST
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Le Sun, 24 Sep 2006 04:45:01 GMT,
Kruger Kid <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com > a écrit :
> Where can you get Tartaric acid to clean a espresso machine.
> I understand this is what is recommended for aluminum boilers.
At what concentration do you use it?
--
Jérémy JUST <jeremy_just@netcourrier.com >
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 07:06:30
From: Mario
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Try a winemaking supply shop
"Kruger Kid" <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:523ch25vcrjmr6vh13d9fteeqnpig99752@4ax.com...
> Where can you get Tartaric acid to clean a espresso machine.
>
> I understand this is what is recommended for aluminum boilers. Also
> the ingredient in the Gaggia Descaler.
>
> Kruger.
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 04:40:40
From: daveb
Subject: Re: Where to get cleaner
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Cleancaf --
Urnex.com
Kruger Kid wrote:
> Where can you get Tartaric acid to clean a espresso machine.
>
> I understand this is what is recommended for aluminum boilers. Also
> the ingredient in the Gaggia Descaler.
>
> Kruger.
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 05:08:46
From: Coffee for Connoisseurs
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Local superket cooking section, along with baking powder etc.
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Alan
alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
www.coffeeco.com.au
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 20:43:05
From: Kruger Kid
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 05:08:46 GMT, "Coffee for Connoisseurs"
<alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au > wrote:
>Local superket cooking section, along with baking powder etc.
My superket has Cream of Tarter. Which is Poassium tartrate. Can
this be subsituted for Tartaric acid?
I do see Tartaric Acid in wine making stores. About $7.00 for 1/2 lb.
Thanks io
My understanding is to use 30g Tartaric acid per liter of water.
Cleancaf is citric based.
I have seen a few sources recommending using Tartaric Acid instead of
Cleancaf. Also the Gaggia descaler is Tartaric Acid.
Kruger
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 18:09:34
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Technically cream of tartar is the potassium salt of tartaric acid but in
common usage they are used interchangeably. Whether it would be equally
effective for descaling I dunno since I always use citric.
"Kruger Kid" <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:9tpdh299gph0ggkq2faa76315o99phvebl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 05:08:46 GMT, "Coffee for Connoisseurs"
> <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Local superket cooking section, along with baking powder etc.
>
> My superket has Cream of Tarter. Which is Poassium tartrate. Can
> this be subsituted for Tartaric acid?
>
> I do see Tartaric Acid in wine making stores. About $7.00 for 1/2 lb.
> Thanks io
>
> My understanding is to use 30g Tartaric acid per liter of water.
>
> Cleancaf is citric based.
>
> I have seen a few sources recommending using Tartaric Acid instead of
> Cleancaf. Also the Gaggia descaler is Tartaric Acid.
>
> Kruger
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 21:46:35
From: Bolo
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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Jack Denver wrote:
> Technically cream of tartar is the potassium salt of tartaric acid but in
> common usage they are used interchangeably. Whether it would be equally
> effective for descaling I dunno since I always use citric.
>
>
> "Kruger Kid" <kkofvirgo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9tpdh299gph0ggkq2faa76315o99phvebl@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 05:08:46 GMT, "Coffee for Connoisseurs"
>> <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Local superket cooking section, along with baking powder etc.
>> My superket has Cream of Tarter. Which is Poassium tartrate. Can
>> this be subsituted for Tartaric acid?
>>
>> I do see Tartaric Acid in wine making stores. About $7.00 for 1/2 lb.
>> Thanks io
>>
>> My understanding is to use 30g Tartaric acid per liter of water.
>>
>> Cleancaf is citric based.
>>
>> I have seen a few sources recommending using Tartaric Acid instead of
>> Cleancaf. Also the Gaggia descaler is Tartaric Acid.
>>
>> Kruger
>>
>>
>
>
Tartaric acid had two acidic groups in it, if cream of tartar is the
monopotassium salt, then it is very weakly acidic. And, I suspect, a
poor descaling agent...
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 04:07:55
From: Jack Denver
Subject: Re: Where to get Tartaric Acid
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In the US, it's called "cream of tartar". However, you'll pay dearly for it
by the ounce.
Is tartaric really superior to citric for alu.?
"Coffee for Connoisseurs" <alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au > wrote in message
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> Local superket cooking section, along with baking powder etc.
>
>
> --
> Alan
>
> alanfrew@coffeeco.com.au
> www.coffeeco.com.au
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